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Event Frostbite 2020 - Discussion Thread

The_Bookworm

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Also, WHY DOES VEN:ultzelda: KEEP RUNNING INTO TOP 10 PLAYERS SO EARLY??!?!

Guess who sent him to loser's...


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Tweek:ultwario:
 

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Characters not represented in top 96 (not counting Echoes):
:ultbanjokazooie::ultbayonetta::ultcloud::ultcorrin::ultdk::ultdoc::ultisabelle::ultjigglypuff::ultkrool::ultkirby::ultlink::ultlittlemac::ultlucario::ultlucas::ultmarth::ultmetaknight::ultbrawler::ultswordfighter::ultpiranha::ultpit::ultrobin::ultrosalina::ultryu::ultken::ultsimon::ulttoonlink:Byleth

Only 27 characters missing, that's pretty great. Ken and Cloud are probably the most surprising of that list.
 

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Also, WHY DOES VEN:ultzelda: KEEP RUNNING INTO TOP 10 PLAYERS SO EARLY??!?!

Guess who sent him to loser's...


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Tweek:ultwario:
Has something to do with seeding.
He's been seeded around 60th (places 33rd or better btw) constantly and there are 64 Round 1 pools at Frostbite.
65th runs into 1st seed therefore.
64rd into the 2nd seed.
etc.
 
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Kome:ultshulk: 2-0 Zinoto:ultdiddy:
Seems like Kome has started to adapt to the matchup after getting sauced by Aaron.
Sadly, no. The same night he got bodied by Aaron, he also beat Zinoto's Diddy without dropping any games, forcing him to switch to Peach.

So it's really just Aaron's Diddy.
 

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Very destructive first match of Top 96 with a very clear 3-0 from Marss:ultzss: over Leon :ultbowser:.

Anyway, have fun with the Top 96.

E:

ScAtt :ultmegaman:(:ultsnake:) 2-0 MVD:ultsnake:, eliminating him at 65th.
 
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Elegant :ultluigi:3-1 Shuton :ultolimar:

So many sweetspot up-b kills. Elegant is?playing nuts
 
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The_Bookworm

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Rickles:ultganondorf: run was very honorable here in Frostbite, but unfortunately his run ends at 65th place at the hands of Fatality:ultfalcon:.


Btw, YES WE FINALLY GOT THE :ultbyleth: STOCK ICON.

Now if only I can see it. It is invisible to me and I forgot how to make it visible. Help please?
 

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Raito:ultduckhunt: 3-0 Aaron:ultdiddy:, eliminating him at 49th place.


Still having trouble with Byleth stock icon...

Edit: WaDI:ultrob: 3-1 Gackt:ultness:, eliminating him at 49th place.
 
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WaDi :ultrob:3-1 Gackt:ultness:
ScAtt :ultmegaman: 3-0 Pandarian :ultpokemontrainerf:(?)
Both out at 49th.

And WaDi has to fight Shuton :ultolimar: for Top 32 next. Damn.
 

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to be fair, there should technically be 2 Byleth stock icons for male and female, so even if we have one we don't have the other.

anyways, Losers top 96 is an absolute bloodbath with great players like Pandarian, Gackt, LingLing, and MVD all going out early but still, a lot of the upper seeds are still in (WaDi, Raffi-X, Raito). crazy to see just how stacked the level of competition Ultimate is every major.
 
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Huge upset:

Toast:ultyounglink: 3-1 Kameme :ultwario::ultsheik:

Sheik just won't do it.

And:
Shuton :ultolimar:3-0 Wadi :ultrob:, eliminating him at 33rd place.
 

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Paseriman :ultfox: 3-0 Marss :ultzss:

the upset of the tournament right there. Paseriman straight up cooked Marss that set too.
 

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Toast :ultyounglink: 3-1 Samsora :ultpeach: for Top 24.


Should've used Zelda
Toast is probably the oddest Young Link players out there.

He either performs very well like right now, or under performs and places lower than most other Young Link players, at seemingly random intervals.

Samsora was having issues with Young Link players online on his streams (especially from a player named Ashton), so I am not too surprised by this outcome.
 

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Welp... looks like that Samsora-Maister rematch won't be happening lol. At least not yet.

In other news, Raffi-X :ultrob: 3-2s LeoN :ultbowser: to eliminate him at 25th place.
 

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As good as Peach is, zoners that can fill the screen with projectiles is one thing she can struggle with. As seen with :ultpacman:and the newly buffed :ultyounglink:.

I was not too surpised by Elegants win over Shuton as :ultluigi: does have good tools to take out :ultolimar: pikmin, like his fireballs and cyclone. Plus Olimar's disadvantage is not exactly stellar either so he is going to be comboed hard once Luigi gets in
 
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As good as Peach is, zoners is one thing she can struggle with. As seen with :ultpacman:and the newly buffed :ultyounglink:.

I was not too surpised by Elegants win over Shuton as :ultluigi: does have good tools to take out :ultolimar: pikmin, like his fireballs and cyclone. Plus Olimar's disadvantage is not that great either so he is going to be comboed hard once Luigi gets in
Kinda off-topic but: Meru :ultpeach:also struggled hard with iStudying's :ultbanjokazooie: yesterday at TUP3 (Dutch C-tier), so yeah. This seems to be a trend and might be a reason why some Peach players train to have a secondary :ultzelda: since she does really well against them.
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Back to Frostbite:

Stroder :ultmario: 2-0 blacktwins13 :ultpichu::ultcloud:
Riddles :ult_terry:2-0 Suarez :ultyoshi:
Salem :ultsnake::ulthero:2-0 Myran :ultolimar:
king_chris :ultzss:2-1 Lui$ :ultfox::ultmario:
All eliminated at 65th.


Goblin :ultroy:dqed at 65th
 
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Salem actually making a nice Loser's run, after being upset so early in Pools
 

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Holy cow... I knew he was good, but he's really living up to his title of Prodigy.

Prodigy :ultmario: 3-0s MKLeo:ultjoker: in possibly the biggest upset yet.
 

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Prodigy :ultmario:3-0 MkLeo....:ultjoker:
Now Wrath :ultsonic:3-0 Gluto :ultwario:
This tournament is ****ing insane

of course I got ninjad lol
 
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Yup, this tournament's officially cursed lul

Wrath :ultsonic: 3-0s Glutonny :ultwario:

I hope Prodigy can go further, but he has to go up against Nietono :ultpichu:, one of his hardest personal match-ups.
 
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We almost had yet another Top 10 PGR upset. With Nairo :ultpalutena: vs Kola :ultroy: 3-2 in a very close set

Salem has had an amazing losers run this tournament. But now he has to face Losers Bracket MKLeo now to get into the top 24

Still, this seems to be the tournament for crazy upsets
 
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What the heck is this tournament?

2nd tournament in a row he had two fight two top 10 players (Tweek&Glutonny and Samsora&Light at Genesis7) for 33rd.

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VoiD :ultsheik:3-1 zackray :ultrob:

Great showing.
Not sure why Zackray thought a big-bodied character like R.O.B. would work well in that matchup.
 

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What the heck is this tournament?


Not sure why Zackray thought a big-bodied character like R.O.B. would work well in that matchup.
Because he tried out GnW and - about midway through - realized Sheik doesn't have to commit nearly as much in the MU. Also, ROB has a nuts advantage state, and can box with Sheik fairly well.
 

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Nietono :ultpichu:3-0 Prodigy :ultmario:

Man , just what is it about the Pichu MU that causes Prodigy to completely and utterly fall apart.

So many mistakes and SD's...
 
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Top 24


Winner's
Nietono:ultpichu: vs Tea:ultpacman:
Nairo:ultpalutena: vs Tweek:ultwario::ultpokemontrainerf:
Paseriman:ultfox: vs Dabuz:ultalph::ultrosalina:
Toast:ultyounglink: vs Maister:ultgnw:


Loser's
Dark Wizzy:ultmario: vs MkLeo:ultjoker:
Samsora:ultpeach: vs Glutonny:ultwario:
Elegant:ultluigi: vs Kola:ultroy:
Marss:ultzss: vs zackray:ultrob::ultjoker::ultgnw:
VoiD:ultsheik: vs Raffi-X:ultrob:
Light:ultfox: vs Shuton:ultolimar:
Wrath:ultsonic: vs Kameme:ultmegaman::ultwario:
Prodigy:ultmario: vs MattyG:ultchrom:


The loser's bracket looks like such a blood-bath.

Edit: MattyG:ultchrom: 3-1 Prodigy:ultmario:, eliminating him at 17th.
 
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Not sure why, but the other two winner's side matches were not updated for Smash.gg.

Anyways:
Tweek:ultpokemontrainerf: 3-0 VoiD:ultsheik:
Kola:ultroy: 3-1 Cosmos:ultinkling:
 
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Not sure why, but the other two winner's side matches were not updated for Smash.gg.

Anyways:
Tweek:ultwario: 3-0 VoiD:ultsheik:
Kola:ultroy: 3-1 Cosmos:ultinkling:
Tweek actually used :ultpokemontrainerf: for his set against VoiD and against Ravenking. Seems he’s more confident in choosing them as a counterpick these days.
 

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Tweek actually used :ultpokemontrainerf: for his set against VoiD and against Ravenking. Seems he’s more confident in choosing them as a counterpick these days.
Tweek has recently on-stream been using Pokemon Trainer again, so this seems to be the return of this character.

Anyways:
MkLeo:ultjoker: 3-0 Dark Wizzy:ultmario:
 

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Zackray was doing well at first with :ultgnw: the first game, but pretty much gave up after his SD.

The :ultrob: switch looked better, but Zackray got way too predictable with his NAir landings, and VoiD capitalized on all of his punishes.

MKLeo :ultjoker: 3-0s DW :ultmario: to eliminate him at an early 17th place; DW had REALLY bad bracket luck after losing to Maister.
 
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Wrath:ultsonic: 3-2 Kameme:ultmegaman:
Elegant:ultluigi: 3-2 Kola:ultcloud: (Kola almost reversed 3-0'd him)

Maister:ultgnw: 3-1 Toast:ultyounglink:
Dabuz:ultrosalina: 3-0 Paseriman:ultfox::ultpalutena:
 

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After losing game 1 as :ultpichu:, VoiD nearly got the three game victory against Light as :ultsheik:, but Light:ultfox: managed to clutch out the set 3-2.

VoiD's great run ends at 13th place.

Wrath:ultsonic: 3-0 MattyG:ultchrom::ultwolf:
MkLeo:ultjoker: 3-0 Samsora:ultpeach: (Leo is mad after that loss against Prodigy)
 

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Nairo lost a set just outside of Top 8 the same exact way he lost a set outside of Top 8 in Genesis...

MKLeo :ultjoker: 3-1 Nairo :ultpalutena: after Nairo heartbreakingly misinputs a forward smash at the end.
 

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Zackray :ultrob: 3-0 Elegant :ultluigi:. Like VoiD, its another impressive 13th place finish considering who they beat to get that far

So..um Luigi was supposed to be a horrible MU for R.O.B right?
Combo food for not, It cannot be worse than even considering R.O.B has everything that Luigi does not like to deal with. Good projectiles, big normals, strong edgegaurding etc.
 
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