Forward teaches Falco

[InfiniteGXT]

What is the point of pillaring against a shield? Is it about timing or is it pointless because it is so easy to roll/shieldgrab out of?

 

[invertigo]

i rarely get grabbed out of it. and my main opponent is a grab happy marth. when he tries to grabs he usually gets shined or daired. i think you just cancel the shine as quick as possible to make it harder to grab you.

but i wanna use jc grab more. seems safer for the lazy falco player.

forward how do you do that edgehog that pc chris did in the video? someone asked on the previous page and im curious too.

 

[mathos]

For the edgehog, you pretty much just walk off the edge. However the trick is you turn around as you start to fall off, the walking momentum will take you off the edge and grab it.

 

[Akasuna no Sasori]

This is a question for anyone really. Anyone know if there is a thread somewhere that has Falco's framerate data on it?

Also I have a question for Forward as well: When I try to L-cancel to shine, sometimes the shine doesn't come out. After carefully watching Falco when this happens I saw that I am l-canelling correctly, so I must be pressing down-b to soon. I usually try and press it just as I land, should I wait until slightly after I land for it to work?

 

[offcell]

That's happened to me on some occasion. You are in fact down B'ing too fast and do need to wait for your Falco to land before executing that shine. I was just practicing it and noticed that I would sometimes do it too early too. Not hard at all to fix, just be less hasty.

edit: oh yea mathos, I was trying it and can't seem to get it. Must need some hardcore timing.

 

[Akasuna no Sasori]

That's happened to me on some occasion. You are in fact down B'ing too fast and do need to wait for your Falco to land before executing that shine. I was just practicing it and noticed that I would sometimes do it too early too. Not hard at all to fix, just be less hasty.

edit: oh yea mathos, I was trying it and can't seem to get it. Must need some hardcore timing.

Thanks! I though that might be it. I'll try waiting longer before I try to shine.

 

[DJ Boonbuggy]

So Forward, what is the story with the spike. Obviously, sometimes it spikes hard, sometimes it doesn't spike very hard. What's the difference/what's happening? I wish I knew ><

 

[tarheeljks]

you pillar against the shield to force them out of it. if they roll away then chase them, but if they try to grab they will get shined.

 

[Eggm]

DJ boonbuggy.. the spike hits harder if you hit with it sooner to when the move first comes out or if they have more %, Tarheeljks pillaring on tall characters is a 50 % chance of getting hit or grabbed if they are good, cause if you dair early you get shield grabbed ify ou do it late to get the shine off and the predict it they will hit you before your dair, so as you come in they are gonna either guess dair early or dair late if they guess right you get hit..so pillaring isn't always the best option vses really good players.

 

[forward]

I'm not teaching Falco anymore B-will could you close this?

 

[B-Will]

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