Flavorless Mafia II: Gave over. Who won?

[Vult Redux]

Red Ryu is my biggest scumread atm. Followed by soup.

oh my gosh Mac... I think postgame we're gonna have a lot of laughs about this. you stress me out so much!!! I think you give Zen too much credit

Let's just say I really really don't think Ryu is the play. I'm willing to vote with you for Soup today ofc.

 

[Xivii]

Ok, fair enough I suppose. It really sucks though that the two of you are misreading my actions so poorly. I've had my fair share of tunnel this game though so it'sol good. If you're town though you really should put maximum effort into figuring out the alternatives today. Again, we only have one mislynch. If you're wrong on soup, we're done for.

 

[Xivii]

Haha I found the crumb. I feel so smart.

Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Xivii]

soup isn't scum, it's Ruy and Maven. soup was right yesterday.

Lynch me or lynch Ruy. My town flip will show that Ryu killed Bardull to frame me. He's the only one to have pushed that point today. Also as I said earlier, the only person that had a sole scum read on me yesterday was Maven, so why was Barull the kill over Maven? Because Maven is scum.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

oh my gosh Mac... I think postgame we're gonna have a lot of laughs about this. you stress me out so much!!! I think you give Zen too much credit

Let's just say I really really don't think Ryu is the play. I'm willing to vote with you for Soup today ofc.

lol maybe I do give Zen too much credit

I'll just defer to Ryker from here on out I guess. i hope he can understand fmpov why I scumread him.

 

[Vult Redux]

Ryu killed Bardull to frame me.

<___________<

 

[Vult Redux]

sorry i need to stop making jokes it's becoming a problem. in not even funny

uhhh i disagree with that

 

[Xivii]

Actually Vult has been my strongest town read this game but w/e.

I turned on you due to your soup defense and read along with Bardull dying and flipping town.

For tomorrow.

I agree with Mac that Ruy's soup attack on this page looks hella bussy, and it's the only thing that gives me pause on my soup read. Also now that I recall, soup's page 1 post on Ruy was also bussy. Eh, need to review real quick.

 

[Xivii]

Ok yeah nevermind, soup and Ruy it is.

Change to Soup, he must die.

This is in response to Vult voting Maven. I doubt Ruy would come out for a scum-buddy-Maven like this.

 

[Xivii]

Ryu is a better choice than me. I am a better choice than soup. Godspeed my friends.

Vote: Xivii

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Zen...please.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Zen...please.

i came into the thread half expecting a hammer

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Only reason I hammered Gheb is because there was no reasoning to switch and we were close to deadline. People were telling me that I should've defended him but I think I recall townreading him pretty consistently D1.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

EBWOP: And what I mean by that is, I talked in detail why I townread him and why I was against lynching him.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

who's scum

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ryu and Ryker by proxy, maybe not both. You're my strongest townread next to Zen.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

but that doesn't make sense

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

How doesn't it make sense?

 

[Vult Redux]

Only reason I hammered Gheb is because there was no reasoning to switch and we were close to deadline.

did.... anyone use that against you? i know I didn't

but that doesn't make sense

lol

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Did Zen just hammer himself?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Kind of busy right now but **** it I'll get to what I can.

 

[Vult Redux]

Ryu and Ryker by proxy, maybe not both. You're my strongest townread next to Zen.

realtalk you don't even find it a little bit curious that Zen ignored every question asked to him about you throughout the whole game? not even a little bit? AND he's your strongest townread on top of that?

i noticed in #661 you simplified this the Zen/Soup argument to the extreme. You said (paraphasing here): "Vult decided we're a team because I townread Zen and Zen changed his mind".

not to be rude but.... cmon

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ryu and Ryker by proxy, maybe not both. You're my strongest townread next to Zen.

If Ryker is mason, then what?

 

[Vult Redux]

ryu he's not hammered yet because Maven was lame and unvoted. though you can hammer him cause your vote's still on Soup iirc

 

[Vult Redux]

though I'd like to hear more from you before hammering ofc

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I mean of course... though in retrospect it explains a lot.

There was a period of time after D1 ended where I was considering that Ryker might be a mason for a plethora of reasons. Some actions later in D2 made me change my mind.

anyway, in a complete 180 from my reads post, Red Ryu is my biggest scumread atm. Followed by soup.

Why me! Fry Me!

Still wanted Soup first, slot has done jack **** and is coasting at this point. Didn't catch crumb and willing to bet Zen hammered himself to make sure less discussion happens so his partner can kill one of the masons tonight.

I'm looking into the Soup/Maven area after that since I refuse to let both slots go into a lylo situation, one of which I am very certain is scum right now.

You think I am scum?

Dude I've been on Zen's ass and have been willing to see him lynched, I only didn't vote because I wanted to post myself and get to this when I could. You think I am scum right now? Bring it on. I got bigger fish to fry.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ryu he's not hammered yet because Maven was lame and unvoted. though you can hammer him cause your vote's still on Soup iirc

No I want to post before anything is finished.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You're entire argument is based off of me and soup being scum together haha.

No, he thinks you are scum because your read on Soup and his on you are both super dumb.

Even me and Rake/John2k4 had something there before I called them town.

 

[Xivii]

How doesn't it make sense?

Ryker is un counter claimed Mason. You and Ryu are the only possible scum team left. Your only chance now is to counter claim Mason.

did.... anyone use that against you? i know I didn't

lol

He was addressing Mac's post before his.

realtalk you don't even find it a little bit curious that Zen ignored every question asked to him about you throughout the whole game? not even a little bit? AND he's your strongest townread on top of that?

I never ignored anything about soup. I was the only one through day one to pursue him. You're ignoring contrary evidence.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

pls simmer down

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

There is more to it than that but I do legit hate that you both are town reading each other for no reason.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

pls simmer down

^ directed to ruy's charizard

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

pls simmer down

I only fire up bby!

 

[Xivii]

There is more to it than that but I do legit hate that you both are town reading each other for no reason.

I have no idea what you're talking about with the John Rake thing.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm a lot more on board with Mac town given more recent posts, he could be scum but the way he is rethinking and making it clear he has a thought process behind this given his large reads then changes with information are making me think he doesn't have an alternative motive.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I have no idea what you're talking about with the John Rake thing.

When I town read them, I got something, some post, some action, anything.

Soup had a back and forth with Bardull in which I didn't like him after the fact, then the slot flipped town which makes me like him less on top of his lack of doing anything.

That is why I have been super bothered by you whiteknighting him all game. I wouldn't do that with Joey/Rake/John if they did nothing. I would do that if I was sure they were town based on something they gave me.

Nothing Soup has posted this game makes me think someone should town read him.

 

[Vult Redux]

I never ignored anything about soup. I was the only one through day one to pursue him. You're ignoring contrary evidence.

aw crap i remember you brought this up and i never replied sorry.

you did try to get me to talk about Soup. it's true! and i was admittedly slow to get to it. I don't think you get points for that, though. it's null because getting other players to talk about your partner could help you get a pulse on the town so you don't get any unexpected surprises

the problem is whenever I turned around and asked you to justify your townread on him, you wouldn't do it and deflected. that's what i'm referring to

 

[Xivii]

When I town read them, I got something, some post, some action, anything.

Soup had a back and forth with Bardull in which I didn't like him after the fact, then the slot flipped town which makes me like him less on top of his lack of doing anything.

That is why I have been super bothered by you whiteknighting him all game. I wouldn't do that with Joey/Rake/John if they did nothing. I would do that if I was sure they were town based on something they gave me.

Nothing Soup has posted this game makes me think someone should town read him.

Show where I white knighted him. I've not once spoken against a soup lynch. I wanted him lynched twice yesterday, but no one else joined on.

 

[Xivii]

the problem is whenever I turned around and asked you to justify your townread on him, you wouldn't do it and deflected. that's what i'm referring to

Show these "whenever" moments.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Xivii , please stop defending yourself if you persist on voting yourself.