Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance | Final Chapter

[ranmaru]

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[giraffelasergun]

I don't know what's going on.

this.

I really don't like how recently ran has turned into "guys lynch me lol wut you think im scum but I haven't done anything scummy!

Cdubs needs to post before I decide if I should vote him or not.

 

[ranmaru]

I never said for them to lynch me for being scummy. I have no scummy intent. Town needs info, and there is minimal info due to those ??? flips. How are we sure Cdubs or I would flip differently? I'm sure I'd flip normally.

 

[giraffelasergun]

I never said for them to lynch me for being scummy. I have no scummy intent. Town needs info, and there is minimal info due to those ??? flips. How are we sure Cdubs or I would flip differently? I'm sure I'd flip normally.

Can you explain those last two sentences?

 

[X1-12]

wait till CDubs claims before lynching him, and then wait some more after that.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I support a CDubs lynch based on OS's claim, but I agree with X1 that we should wait before pulling the trigger.

Also, Ran vigging needs to happen tonight. I'm not sure what he's thinking any more, he just isn't making any sense.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

...well this is a very very funny game of Mafia.

Unvote
Vote: Cdubs1987

I'll go with for the moment, I'm going with a Ran lynch D4 if this clears OS.

 

[Raziek]

SO MY FLIGHT GOT DELAYED AGAIN DUE TO WEATHER.

I AM NOT HAPPY.

I just thought you should know. I'll be around some more.

 

[Raziek]

EBWOP: Cdubs be viewin', he better be a postin.

 

[X1-12]

stop voting for CDubs

 

[Raziek]

unvote

Until claim, or until I have to leave again. No need for shenanigans.

 

[Raziek]

EBWOP: Changed my mind, won't re-vote if I have to leave, I realized we still have time before I get home.

 

[Cdubs1987]

Here I am, briefly.

So guys, on D1 I was a little suspicious of Nich's coroner ability. This is because I also have a coroner ability. It seemed a little odd that there would be two coroner's in the game.

I'm fairly certain that mafia has more than a one time janitor and one time encrypter (I believe encrypter to typically be the role that can hide lynch results). Os's fake claim allows mafia to hide my body and he can go "gee golly I don't know".

Furthermore, OS slipped

CDubs I had an indie read pretty early on. His approach of the subject and his inactivity seemed a bit too strategic; as such, he was an easy choice for investigation. I got a "guilty". Despite getting the guilty, I didn't have much to make an actual case against him; previous posts about CDubs had little steam behind him and resulted only in strong OMGUS from CDubs.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12269922&postcount=1934

Heres the problem with this argument. He is saying he didn't have a case against me at first, but he knew I was guilty. see here

I got a "guilty". Despite getting the guilty, I didn't have much to make an actual case against him

Yet in his story, he got a guilty on me day 3. But we did most of our arguing day 2, Day 2 is when OS said I look scummy for bringing up abductor out of nowhere, when FF was the first person to bring up abductor.

OS is saying he got a guilty, which premised his attacking me. He attacked me on day 2. He "investigated" me on day 3.

Also, Im sure OS is lying, but is there ever a case when people are millers without knowing they are millers?

But anyways, I'm guessing if I got lynched I would not come up at all, and OS can have time to spin some story for toMorrow. Lynching me will not confirm anything for town.

 

[Cdubs1987]

Oh also, I think Ran may be abductor. Currently more interested in lynching OS. And Ran please attempt to read before posting.

 

[X1-12]

yes CDubs, most millers on this site are uninformed.

Fully explain your coroner ability

 

[X1-12]

DO NOT lynch yet, I wanna think. I'm not inclined to believe CDubs because that post was terribad, but still wait a bit, srsly.

 

[X1-12]

and wait till FF finally ****ing posts too.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ranmaru, why are you saying kill yourself now and changing strats so suddenly?

 

[Cdubs1987]

X1, please explain how my post was terribad?

And to define my coroner ability, I can only see one thing. mercenary or non-mercenary. I don't get a name or a role, only allignment.

 

[Cdubs1987]

and to clarify, its a one time use coroner ability. I haven't used it yet. I could us it toNight to verify Nich's claim that zen is town. More important thing is that I'd be voteblocked, confirming that I targeted Zen at night.

 

[Raziek]

I think using it on Zen would be a bit of a waste, given that we already have Nich's claim, and Nich is INDEED voteblocked today, if memory serves.

I'd rather use it on someone who died recently, like Luxor or Nabe.

I'd also like you to claim your name. This is especially important for me because I'm still somewhat skeptical of Nich's Ike claim, since it doesn't seem to fit the role.

 

[Rajam]

Cdubs how have you used your ability so far?

 

[X1-12]

let me reread the time around when nich claimed.

Cdubs give full character and role name.

 

[Raziek]

Cdubs how have you used your ability so far?

and to clarify, its a one time use coroner ability. I haven't used it yet. I could us it toNight to verify Nich's claim that zen is town. More important thing is that I'd be voteblocked, confirming that I targeted Zen at night.

This.

10 this.

 

[Cdubs1987]

Full role claim, not yet.

Im confident to say that anyone who has tracked me will have seen that I have only gone one place at a time, and no one I have targeted has died or gone missing. I think its more valuable for scum to not know what I can do. I have good reason for this.

At Raz, the point of my targeting Zen would be to prove to town that I can target zen. Not something I would find too likely for scum/indie to be able to do.

I'm gonna take a nap for a bit, will post later tonight.

 

[Raziek]

You said your Coroner was one time, and you hadn't used it. So why would anyone see you go ANYWHERE? Obviously there's something you're not telling us.

Why would targeting Zen at this point matter? Furthermore, to quote what was said to me earlier, "If the ability exists for Town, it can exist for Mafia."

Just had a thought. Does it make sense to anyone that CDubs would be voteblocked if he targeted Zen? I understand Nich was, probably because kills take place last in Natural Action Resolution. (AFAIK, correct me if I'm wrong.)

Would Zen's ability voteblock you now that he's dead? I highly doubt it.

If it can, I'll prove that MYSELF by sending the dead man a message.

I find your claim unlikely, especially given the lack of details.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Raz, Zen was lynched D2, I coronered him N2.

 

[Overswarm]

Yet in his story, he got a guilty on me day 3. But we did most of our arguing day 2, Day 2 is when OS said I look scummy for bringing up abductor out of nowhere, when FF was the first person to bring up abductor.

Wow, a cop arguing with someone on Day 2 then investigating them Night 2 when no one goes after the guy he was arguing against? Say it ain't so.

CDubs I had an indie read pretty early on. His approach of the subject and his inactivity seemed a bit too strategic; as such, he was an easy choice for investigation. I got a "guilty".

There's the reasoning. Last sentence being "I got a 'guilty'", and we're up to present day.

Despite getting the guilty, I didn't have much to make an actual case against him; previous posts about CDubs had little steam behind him and resulted only in strong OMGUS from CDubs.

This is the "slip" you're talking about. Seems pretty damning taking it out of context, right? Like I was arguing with you on Day 2 because of my investigation results on N2?

Well, put it in context.

CDubs I had an indie read pretty early on. His approach of the subject and his inactivity seemed a bit too strategic; as such, he was an easy choice for investigation. I got a "guilty". Despite getting the guilty, I didn't have much to make an actual case against him; previous posts about CDubs had little steam behind him and resulted only in strong OMGUS from CDubs.

I figured I'd have to claim toDay, but would have preferred to wait until after Ranmaru had been questioned more. His posts toDay have been strikingly scummy, as I have shown earlier toDay, and he's a legitimate scum read... but is not confirmed.

Here's where I say why I investigated you (my thoughts of you being indie), what I got (guilty), why I didn't suddenly push for you (had no strong case to present without simply claiming), and why I didn't claim outright to push on you (preferred to wait).

There's no slip. You're twisting words to make it look like one.

OS is saying he got a guilty, which premised his attacking me. He attacked me on day 2. He "investigated" me on day 3.

Incorrect, as shown above.

Also, Im sure OS is lying, but is there ever a case when people are millers without knowing they are millers?

Millers are generally uninformed. Janitors also generally get to know their subjects, which is why Nich's claim was looked upon with skepticism. Now you're claiming the same thing.

Going to reread upon Nich's claim.

But anyways, I'm guessing if I got lynched I would not come up at all, and OS can have time to spin some story for toMorrow. Lynching me will not confirm anything for town.

WIFOM. Likewise, lynching me could have the same effect you are describing here.

 

[Raziek]

Right, thanks for that correction, Nich. I forgot we lynched him rather than him being killed.

Ok, so that could verify him.

 

[Overswarm]

So before, I really didn't think the case against Nich was strong. Though I understand people feel that he didn't refute points and instead got belligerent, I feel this is him being emotional more than scummy. That being said, the claim seems weird. Seems like he could be a "one time janitor" using "one time dead person role cop" as a cover.

This is your response to Nich claiming your role.


Why didn't you counter-claim Nich? Why didn't you pressure Nich the next day when he said "oops, I'm roleblocked" and Town gave a collective "Hmmm...."?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You know I just noticed, Ranmaru didn't start this lynch me stuff until after OS claimed, when it was down to him and OS why did he just start up with this semi-jester like strat.

Then Cdubs claims he has a "coroner" ability trying to buy himself another day.

Something is fishy about this. This might be a stretch but I'm getting the feeling Ranmaru is trying to divert town attention away from other people like Cdubs, which happened right after OS claimed cop and called Cdubs scum.

Please tell me I'm not the only one who is seeing this as a possibility.

 

[ranmaru]

I don't know what you mean.

 

[Rajam]

and to clarify, its a one time use coroner ability. I haven't used it yet. I could us it toNight to verify Nich's claim that zen is town. More important thing is that I'd be voteblocked, confirming that I targeted Zen at night.

Full role claim, not yet.

Im confident to say that anyone who has tracked me will have seen that I have only gone one place at a time, and no one I have targeted has died or gone missing. I think its more valuable for scum to not know what I can do. I have good reason for this.

At Raz, the point of my targeting Zen would be to prove to town that I can target zen. Not something I would find too likely for scum/indie to be able to do.

I'm gonna take a nap for a bit, will post later tonight.

Huge contradiction there

Also no idea why are you hidding your name...

 

[Cdubs1987]

alright, I'll give some more info.

I am Ena, mercenary tactician.

Much like Nich, I have more than one ability. I have multiple one time use abilities. My coroner ability itself is a one time use only.

OS, nice post. You actually commented on a post of mine once on the issue where I explain how the role (coroner) seems underpowered for one time use if there are a **** town of prevent reveal effects, and overpowered if there was just one role cover up effect. That being said, based on my ability I feel like we are not done seeing role cover ups. Admittedly, its possible that my coroner sanity is "insane" to create some lolz. As I said, I only see allignment, not role.

As for you talking about me pulling stuff out of context, your initial argument sounds like its saying you were initially attacking me because of your cop result, and your initial reads on me seemed bad because you didn't have a case other than your cop result. Upon re-reading, I admit that this is not how you explicitly stated things happened.

My unfortunate reality is that, assuming I don't get role blocked, I would be able to verify some of my abilities. Hence why I don't want to claim them and set up an order to use them.

That being said, if there is a tracker who tracks me, and I get role blocked, and some one disappears, we will know that I am not abductor. But there would still be the issue of whether or not I am on a scum team.

However, I do have a nifty ability in my bag of tricks. I can guarantee that we can see whether or not OS is lying, as long as we let me be the hammer.

As long as I am the hammer vote, no twilight actions can be sent to xivii. I assume that means no corpse eating and no encrypting etc.

 

[ranmaru]

Cdubs, what is your read on me?

 

[Overswarm]

You can hammer yourself, CDubs.

What is your full role name? Ena, mercenary tactician?

 

[Cdubs1987]

awww OS, such sweet words.

And yes, I'm Ena, Mercenary tactician. Based on the power of the roles in this set up (me, Nich, Vult) I wouldn't be too surprised if there was no cop in the game. If you ride a fake cop claim to victory I will pop many blood vessels.

@ all, is it common to receive fake claims I.E. a list of roles that are not in the game if you are scum on this site?

 

[Overswarm]

Nich, what is your full role name?

 

[Overswarm]

Oh and CDubs? You slipped.

How am I going to ride a fake cop claim to end game if you're lynched and flip town? -_^

You won't flip town and my claim isn't fake. That's how.

 

[Xiivi]

6/11 | 03.02.11 11:59AM EST

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