Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance | Final Chapter

[Xivii]

Adum, I'm really not sure what all you're wanting me to say. I mean scum is scum.

They'll realize that they're wrong soon if they're serious, if they go through with my lynch, at least they can get good reads from my flip, and they'll get incredible reads if that's their only goal; reads. I have good reason to believe that they ARE doing this for reads and nothing more mostly because I tend to come off as scummy, and because there are a lot of newer players in this game. But, I'm gonna take this as if they're serious because, if they are, then I DO gotta defend myself O_O.

It's pretty obvious that he is just throwing stuff out here. Right now he is going back and forth over whether we are serious or not, but then later says that he knows I'm serious.

I'd ask what he means by the kind of reads we would be looking for or could get from his flip, but if you notice, he is replacing out. So responding to someone who isn't even in the game is kind of pointless to me, but I'll go through the rest I suppose.

The last line is just so scummy haha. "Then I really do have to defend myself O_O". I mean can you see town saying something like this? Gord isn't some noob. He knows he has to defend himself. He's just playing it off like he's stunned and doesn't know if people are just voting him for the hell of it (Actually appearantly some are (Raz) but that's not the point) or if he really needs to defend himself even though people have been telling him to do so since my case.

For right now, it's a soft town read. He likes to do whatever he can to play pro X1, as town. As scum, I'd say he's more concious and careful of what he does. I'm not gonna pledge town all game for this, but he's not a target.

I agree with this. Well actually x1 is just town.

He's a stick in the mud (will NEVER take a joke), and there's definitely gotta be a difference in the way I treat him and others. It'll get better as time goes on, but for now, I still gotta be on my toes.

Not sure what the heck "I still gotta be on my toes" is supposed to mean, but this shows that he knows how serious I am. The fact that he's so afraid of me this game is what makes me think he is scum. In this whole post it's just so obvious to me that he is trying to appeal to you with his wording. I'd be ginuinely suprised if I was wrong, but at least then we would have Ryu still.

 

[Xivii]

Wow Luxor can die.

 

[Beat!]

I think Zen is town. His scum hunting looks genuine, and we did get some information from the gord wagon.

Raz is looking pretty scummy at the moment. He's trying very hard to show that he wants to help town, but basically all he does is telling us early wagons are bad. Sometimes they are, but this wagon actually gave results.

red ryu hasn't posted much, but Zen's got a point. Kinda null though, but leaning towards scum.

x1 prolly town.

still unsure about nicholas. Keeping my vote on him for now.

No idea about gord. Waiting for his replacement.

rest are null

 

[Xivii]

Hmmm... confirming even though there's no confirmation phase... quite scummy indeed.

Vote: Luxor
FoS: adumbrodeus

Any reason why you chose to vote Luxor over Adum?

Also you agree with me that Luxor can die, yeah?

 

[Xivii]

Why is x1 probably town?

 

[Xivii]

Also is there a difference between "no idea" and "null"? You said no idea fir Gord, but didn't put him in the null catagory so I'm wondering what the difference between the two are.

You also said you're unsure about Nich. Does "unsure" mean "leaning scum"?

 

[Beat!]

No reason really, no. Just my small contribution to RVS .

K, I'll follow you for now, since my nicholas vote isn't doing anything anyway.

unvote
Vote: Luxor

 

[Xivii]

for*

Quadpost

^nvm ninja

 

[Beat!]

Oh wow, double ninja. Give me a sec and I'll answer.

 

[Beat!]

I just got a towny vibe from x1. He seemed to be baiting reactions/slips a lot, which is a town tell imo.

As for gord, I said no idea before I personally believe he's town, but there were also some heavy stuff thrown at him, which made me uncertain.

Yes, Nicholas is still sorta leaning towards scum. Weak tell however.

 

[Xivii]

You sure this is your first game o-o?

 

[Beat!]

^^, stop flattering me *blush*.

What's your tell on me so far, Zen?

 

[Xivii]

Can't say cause I need you to live.

Can you quote where x1 was baiting reactions/slips.

 

[Luxor]

7. Luxor

You're new too, right? But you hydra'd with Kuz in some game, I think SC. Why'd you hydra for your first game, out of curiousity? And how much did you actually play? Only answer the latter question if Soul Calibur was the game you hydra'd with Kuz.

Yeah, hydra with Kuz in SC. I honestly didn't post much because I underestimated how busy I would be at the time, since I was busy moving to Europe.

@Z-epsilon-mu (or nu, which one is it?)
I'm confused by X1's behavior. I know from SC that he acts hypertownie when he's scum, and he smells scummy on the surface now- meaning he might be town?
BeatTownie's #15 has me suspicious, he seems overanxious to scumhunt. It could be a joke, and probably was, but I still want to hear from Beat.
IDK about Gordito yet.

Will post moar when I'm not sitting in the front row of my chem class.

 

[Luxor]

Why the sudden Luxor-hate, Zen? Reasons would be nice.

 

[Beat!]

If Rajam died right now I'd be cool with that.

It was during RVS, but since there are a few inexperienced players (like me) in this game, x1 probably tried to bait noobscum with this post.

Man no-one even comments on me ****ing about...

Fortunately I've just been given a gift from the heavens, listing every player like that when there is definitely nothing to say about them is probably the stongest standard tell there is


Unvote
Vote: Gordito

I've seen x1 doing this a lot. He claims that his tell is a super standard one, and obvious too. This can make players who disagree very frustrated, and if they're scum, chances are they will slip when answering him (the most common thing would be that they very aggressively tell him that he's wrong).

Ok I will plain ignore you until he is dead, and upon his scum flip, you are dead.

Clearly baiting reactions from Nicholas.








His other posts contained baiting to some extent as well, but these three posts kinda stood out to me.

 

[Beat!]

That was directed at Zen, btw.

 

[Luxor]

While you're on, Beat, explain #15.

 

[Beat!]

The rules clearly stated that there was no confirmation phase, and that simply understanding the rules and posting in the thread served as confirmation, yet you and adum confirmed. Reading the rules is important, you know.

 

[Luxor]

Confirming is common practice in any case, hence I was not the only one that did it anyway.

 

[adumbrodeus]

The rules clearly stated that there was no confirmation phase, and that simply understanding the rules and posting in the thread served as confirmation, yet you and adum confirmed. Reading the rules is important, you know.

Lack of a phase does not make it a bad idea inherently, admittedly it was done due to a combination of force of habit and being rushed to get out but still.


Lemme ask you this, does it tell you anything about our alignment? Do you expect that asking questions based on it will tell you anything about our alignment? If so, why? If not, why are you concentrating on it?

 

[Luxor]

vote Beatstick

 

[Beat!]

No, but when I posted, you and Adum were the only ones who had did it. After I had posted, a lot of others also /confirmed, but since it was only RVS, I didn't really feel like going "oh, 50% of the players didn't read the rules, they must all be scum!!".

And it being "common practice" is not a very good reason. If the rules say you don't have to confirm, why confirm?

 

[Beat!]

Oh, double ninja again. I'm so slow T_T

 

[Luxor]

Common practice is a very good reason. That's why Gordito has all those votes.

 

[adumbrodeus]

vote Beatstick

Care to explain why you voted beatstick?

Also, if you thought his line of questioning was scummy, why'd you wait for me to also object to him disagreeing with confirming when there's not a confirmation phase?

 

[Beat!]

Lack of a phase does not make it a bad idea inherently, admittedly it was done due to a combination of force of habit and being rushed to get out but still.


Lemme ask you this, does it tell you anything about our alignment? Do you expect that asking questions based on it will tell you anything about our alignment? If so, why? If not, why are you concentrating on it?

I'm not concentrating on it, Luxor was the one bringing it up again. The post was made during RVS, but Luxor asked just now, so I wasn't sure how serious my answer was supposed to be. I don't think I can get any info about your alignment from that post, but you sound like you can get a read on me from that single post.

@Luxor
You forgot the colon.

 

[Luxor]

Doh colon.

My vote stays with you until I have someone better for it to rest on.

@Adum
n00b card

 

[adumbrodeus]

I'm not concentrating on it, Luxor was the one bringing it up again. The post was made during RVS, but Luxor asked just now, so I wasn't sure how serious my answer was supposed to be. I don't think I can get any info about your alignment from that post, but you sound like you can get a read on me from that single post.

@Luxor
You forgot the colon.

You could've just said "it was RVS, I never intended that vote seriously", and that should've ended the line of conversation (unless Luxor pushed it), why'd you push it further?

Doh colon.

My vote stays with you until I have someone better for it to rest on.

@Adum
n00b card

And what exactly are you playing the noob card for?

 

[Beat!]

You could've just said "it was RVS, I never intended that vote seriously", and that should've ended the line of conversation (unless Luxor pushed it), why'd you push it further?

Yeah, you're right. Sorry 'bout that.

And I'm not "playing the noob card", if that question was directed towards me.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Yeah, you're right. Sorry 'bout that.

And I'm not "playing the noob card", if that question was directed towards me.

Fair enough, the fact that you're admitting that you're wrong and dropping the topic when confronted with the fact that you don't expect to get any alignment knowledge is a bit of a towntell.


Not liking Luxor's vote on you, he dropped it there as soon as it seemed safe, though I want him to explain what he meant by "noob card" before taking further action. (and no, it wasn't you, reread my previous post, I quoted you and then I quoted luxor).

 

[Luxor]

By 'n00b card' I mean I honestly thought nothing of dropping my vote on Beat.

unvote: Beatstick

I'm a little bit too jumpy atm.

 

[Beat!]

Luxor, what are your thoughts so far?

 

[Luxor]

A lot of people haven't posted enough yet (Overswarm+FF, for example) to really read. I'm leaning towards Zen/X1/adum as town at this point, though.

 

[X1-12]

uh-oh

Unvote
Vote: Luxor

 

[Overswarm]

Thinking out loud.

- Confirming my inship this game. This is my first real game of mafia, but I feel I understand the game pretty well. Looking forward to this game being good!

TOTALLY thought you were RPsi before I saw this because of your avatar. Would have messed me up all game. XD



So, the game starts with Adumb on #9 giving praise to Raziek.

This is followed by Rajam and X1-12 in something that sparks my interest! :B

Rajam votes for him (makes sense, adum starts the game off by immediately 'buddying' someone), and then X1-12 votes for Rajam and FoS's Adumbrodeus.

Rajam takes a stand, X1-12 straddles a fence and plays both sides. I don't like that on X1-12's part.

That said, Adum and I have talked on AIM prior to this game and he mentioned Raziek's reads being spot on, so this doesn't stand out to me as particularly fishy. It DOES strike me as stupid, because prior to that statement the only people that could even potentially consider him a threat were BBR members.... a whopping three people, one of which is adumbrodeus.

Giving out free information isn't something Adumb normally does without a purpose.

Now X1-12 has my attention, and then he says "ninja'd by 2 posts". This is very specific and the time stamp makes it...
possible. But he voted for Rajam and FoS'd Adumb. Rajam only had one post (#7, which admittedly could lead to someone voting for him), but Adumbrodeus had none.

So, WTF on that.

This immediately points to the "liar" section of my mafia compass.

X1-12, why did you FoS someone that hadn't posted yet? Why did you claim to be ninja'd?

This reeks of backpedaling following a plan gone wrong.


Light touch n' go by FFlame and Rajam. Rajam asks innocent sounding question that is scummy in nature, FFlame answers it in a nonchalant, informative way. No information is given but it is fake content by both of them. Noted.


X1-12 hits Rajam hard with incitement to murder! :B

Hmmm... confirming even though there's no confirmation phase... quite scummy indeed.

Vote: Luxor
FoS: adumbrodeus

This I don't follow at all.

And why is everyone FoSing adumbrodeus? Am I missing something?

Gordito with fake content.
Red Ryu with RVS vote.
Glyph with pointless content.
Vult with RVS
Glyph again posting bull****.
Cdubs "confirming"

I'm a stalker of Gylph.

*narrows eyes*

Stalker be a mafia role, sir.

Glyph says "or am I stalking you?" immediately after. This is stupid.

Vult being silly with pointless content.

Adumbrodeus comes back and hits Rajam's post. Adum had posted after this before, but was merely to confirm/fellate Raziek. Not striking. I post small snippits without fully reading even a page sometimes. Adumb gives the same kind of response FF does. Logical, makes sense, isn't real content. Just fluff.

Raziek makes an obvious display of affection towards Adumb. Lovers? (note to all: this is a joke)

Now adumbrodeus comes out with a reasoning for his compliments:

You're welcome, but I actually had a slightly more practical goal in mind with that post, I wanted people to know you're a strong player (if presumably unrefined) so we don't let you off as noobtown if you do something scummy for example. Since there are only a couple of players here who have access to the BBR I wanna get it out there now so everyone can get a read on you.

I knew Adumb wouldn't be so silly!

I don't like his approach to this but I understand why he'd do it.



Goridto comes in with a large post. It's basically all BS. Several scum slips / noob slips littered throughout there.

Lol adumbrodeus we should trust your reads amirite cuz I don't know them lol. lol vote for the villain cuz it'll give me points am I popular yet lol. letz make lotz of jokez amirite lol. I call Nabe sherlock lol. I'll ask Glyph a pretty useless question cuz I'm super dedicated lol.

I do not like this.

Zen doesn't either! Immedaite pressure on Gordito.

Gordito then... falls apart? He plays the KevinM card. He is not KevinM. This will not end well for Gordito.


X1-12 then comes in with self-reference, implying he was deliberately acting scummy but "no one called him on it" (?). He then says Gordito's giant post is kiiiiiiinda of a STRONGEST STANDARD TELL IN EXISTENCE.

Given that X1-12 gave me the impression of backpedaling earlier and FoSing someone for no damn reason, then says aloud to a room that has said nothing to him "HEY I WAS ACTING SCUMMY BUT YOU DIDN'T CALL ME ON IT", and then says "but THIS guy is scum for sure", I get a strong feeling of a bus from someone newer at actually being mafia.

X1-12, how often have you been mafia? I'm curious.

Zen is now sharpening his axe, X1-12 is his cheerleader.

Gordito continues to keep his head in the clouds.

In no particular order my brain said it's important to watch:
Red Ryu and Glyph
Adumbrodeus and Raziek
Rajam and FrozenFlame
Rajam and Adumbrodeus
X1-12 and Gordito
X1-12


This is not going to be a constant thing, just getting the ball rolling. That's jsut the first 40 posts.


Nich says HE ISN'T GOING TO TUNNEL THIS GAME.

*party hats for everyone*


Glyph makes first actually useful discussion point for town this game

"Onto other stuff:
Its been a long time since I played Path of Radiance, but should we entertain the possibility of a Laguz (sp?) party as well as mafia? And what kind of roles would a person who can turn into an animal have?"

This... is a possibility. If I was going solely by flavor I could see a mafia traitor (crows) or serial killer (feral ones) just off the top of my head. That said, it's neither here nor there. There are plenty of independent possibilities from that game, not all of them Laguz; given that there are multiple laguz that join your party and fight with Ike throughout the game, simply seeing town Laguz won't determine if any independents would be Laguz.

Verdict: treat it like any other game. There might be independents, that is all the info we get.

Really like Zen's play here.

-Nich derails from Gord.
-Glyph ignores Gord being scummy.

This is good, we've got our first major confrontation.

Ninja'd by Zen.

Looks like I'm scum.

If that's so, how do you feel about saving my lynch/NK to D3/N3, that way, I can make connections and you can scumhunt outside of tunneling me? Cuz I know that that's what's gonna end up happening if you gun for my lynch toDay.

ಠ_ಠ


Gordito is going downhill still.

@Mod: Would the activities shown on a players profile be considered technical data? Along with the time.

Like, Last Activity: Replying to thread

or something.

And then that. This, I don't really like. Mostly because I do it a lot as scum. I just say something slight, doesn't mean much... then ask a question to the mod... then BAM! Instant worthless activity. Watching where this goes.

@X1
That standard tell thing is a lie. First off, I've never heard of such a thing, and secondly, I've seen townies make huge lists of random stuff at the start of game (if anyone needs an example of this, check tree-stump mafia.) So tell me again, why should I vote Gord?

This strikes me as odd too, but Nich normally does.

X1-12 responds by pretending he is Samuel L. Jackson.

Raziek then... votes for Gordito for no reason other than other people are doing it. I doubt Abumbrodeus would have allowed him to do that should they have been scummates, not after adumbrodeus' unprovoked statements on Raziek.



MY FIRST ACTUAL COMMENT DIRECTLY TOWARDS A PLAYER ASIDE FROM SMALL QUESTIONS:

I don't measure tunneling by RL days so much as by posts. And you've been relentless on Gord.

And for all you complain about me tunnelling... I've never actually seen you tell me WHY I'm wrong, just "You're tunneling, idiot. Player X is town."

This you/X1 teamup going on is ringing alarm bells for me right now.

Nich, asking someone a series of questions and then getting the response "oh no you caught me" in the form of a picture is less than ideal. Continuing to pressure them isn't "tunneling", it's not letting someone brush you off.

Also, do you really think X1 and Zen are "teaming up"? It seems to me that X1-12 is literally latching onto Zen. I don't consider X1-12 a part of this at all; definitely moreso Zen.

Ok I will plain ignore you until he is dead, and upon his scum flip, you are dead.

I put this in Google's mafia translator and it said "HOW DO I POST WHAT YOU WILL LIKE?! WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP LOOKING AT ME?!"

Just saying.

unvote
Vote: Nicholas1024

Why did you get so offended so easily?

Tee hee XD



Deliberate buddying via Nabe and X1-12.


Post #73, Zen goes for the uppercut and pretty much hits then nail on the head. I agree with Zen here.

Wow, what an early wagon. How certain are you about this, Zen? I mean, if he's got a PR it's not very good at all.

I'm still iffy on Nicholas. Being aggressive doesn't have to = being super sensitive.

Stop being new at mafia.

A lot of it seems like it's personal, and I think that can cloud judgments sometimes.

Don't get me wrong he is the strongest person to Lynch based on what you have presented, but I don't think bring other games into this is wise unless your absolutely sure it reveals his intentions/scumminess.

Stop posting neutral, bland, completely safe content.

Zen, just so you know, if you end this Day early I will kill you.

Stop competing with Gord for a D1 lynch.

Let me turn this one back around on you, X1. When has scum made big lists in early game like Gord did? After all, if it's a standard scumtell then it should happen every so often.

....Clever. 10 Points for Nicholas! Still a pointless post, but intellectually clever.


Gord then follows with a big post that can be summed up with "I acted scummy on purpose?". With a question mark. Specifically, upward inflexion. That is to say it isn't a defense at all.

Good wording on that adumb. "Take on the case" rather than defense. XD


Cdubs comes in with his first post:

Guys I think we are being hasty. Something that makes me nervous, is scum loves to try to find guilt free band wagons. This is why I hate the "GETTHELURKERGETTHELURKERGETTHELURKER OMG THEYMAKEENDGAMESOBAD!!!" lets vote out a lurker day 1 or 2 strategy, because we get no information from there lynch, and no one looks bad for hopping on the wagon.

I think a similar situation has been created, so that voting gordito would not imply guilt, albeit he has done some scummy things.

I get the whole "I'M a trying really hard to scumhunt with lists even though there isn't enough information to do so but I wanna look good because I am bad" thing, but also, I think it's possible he just felt like making a list and people have used that to Aggro the crap out of him.

The list = aggro is possible. That happens all the time. My first post could have been a giant picture of a lemon with the text "HERE ARE MY READS". I would have gotten aggro for that. But if I responded with "oh no you dinnae like me lemon?!" instead of "I like to see who immediately jumps on me for stupid things. I have a lot of people that would take any chance to jump on me, and if they avoided it it could be a strong scum tell. They know I "counter pressure" a lot, and so if they're scum they'd want to stay away.", that "aggro" would then be justified. The second response would be less likely to present a torrent of votes.


@Cdubs: your statements on "quick lynch is bad" is kind of okay. Quick lynches can be good for town in the sense that a lynch actually happens, and if they catch mafia it's not a bad thing. But I see where you are coming from and I agree.

That being said, Gordito's posts under the heat now do make him look scummy, and I do want to see where that goes.

Thanks for making a completely pointless post and ending it with "but here's a statement that gives me an out!"


I'm already sick of reading and want to get back to work... but continuing.


Gord makes a post. Mostly stuff I don't completely follow.

'Course I thought you were serious.

Erm...

They'll realize that they're wrong soon if they're serious

>_>

Am I cornered? No. I'm making a deal with you. Living isn't my number one priority: winning is. And if I'm 100% scum, then why not keep me around and use my flip to make connections/distances? I'm not telling you to forget about me. I'm telling you to kill me, "confirmed scum", later and let my scummates make connections with me.

Except this doesn't work ever.

I think Zen just guns for one person off of one slip and sticks to them. It's either that, or he's using me to get other people to react, which would be great. But that's not the case lol, it's Zen. He thinks that the way I play is scummy, but... it's just the way I play. Why I don't change it is cuz it works for me.

Oh, and guys, please read the V/LA thread soonish. I'll have something to say that'll prompt my request replacement. I'm really sorry, but thank you all for playing, and good luck everybody, I'll miss you all .

Okay, seriously?

1. Zen didn't stick to you off of "one slip". Zen said "Hey, you're looking awfully shady!". You replied "NUH UH! No one here looking shady. Nope. No sir-ee bob. I'm just lurking in the shadows because I'm.... allergic to sunlight! Yeah. I'm a vampire. Can't be in the sun. That's also why I hate garlic as a kid. You knew I hated garlic. You must have known I was a vampire! Why do you think I'm acting shady for being me, huh? Lol just kidding we're still buds right?" You justified Zen's further pressure with your incredibly panicky response.

And now you're asking for a replacement because, traditionally, that buys you time.


Vult's 103 confuses the hell out of me.

@Vult: Please explain your 103 to me.

So, X1-12 and Zen push for votes for pressure right away, Adumbrodeus HALF-commits, and Nabe and Glyph just parrot their way onto the wagon, and I get called out? Is this some sort of initiation right?

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKH***Z-IXE&feature=related

<3

X1, why are you so content to push Gordito's wagon while letting Zen do all the work?

<3 <3 <3

Nabe then claims to know what X1-12 is thinking. I don't like that.

I proposed a quick lynch to see who would quick lynch. Not that I disagree with it still.

**** >_<

Mafia 101
Not acting scummy on purpose

If you're in a room with 10 people and one of them is a stabbing murderer, you need to figure it out! How do you know who the bad guy is? Based off who is stabbing someone!

The overly anxious mind that thinks it is clever will say "well, everyone will be looking for who is stabbing someone, and we all know that. So anyone stabbing someone wouldn't be letting other people see him. So if I stab someone, everyone will know I'm not the stabbing murderer! The actual murderer will call me out because it is "safe", and we'll know who the real killer is!"

Does that sound stupid to you? It should.

But that's what 3 or 4 people have already done this game. "I'm just getting reactions" is ****ing stupid. You can get reactions in ways that ARE NOT completely scummy. You also don't SAY "I'm getting reactions". You let people guess. Otherwise, you're painting a target on your head.

Still think Gord is scum. Guess we will have to wait until glg to persue that though.

Do not like. We don't have to wait for ****.

You do realize that GLG won't be able to answer for ANYTHING Gordito has done right? You're effectively clearing the slate and saying "let's start over" because Gordito gave literally 0 information that can be transferred to another player.


Now random *****ing between Raziek and a few others. None of it matters. All null tells.

It's called trying to get reactions.

Careful.

You also realize that scum sometimes uses inactivity to hide themselves so they don't have to ask questions.

They are also safe vote technically since them being gone sometimes isn't bad at all if they weren't doing anything.

I'd rather go after scum, but you know the option to lynch in actives or lurkers isn't bad even more so when scum will lurk to be able to avoid attention.

@Zen: It this an RVS vote or do you have reasons?

Eh, Ryu. He hasn't said anything concrete all game. All his posts are really vague, neutral things. Post more content plox.

The rest of the posts are mostly meh. Not nearly as juicy as the earlier ones.

Adumb catches Luxor "playing it safe". I consider it null.

X1-12 continues to act like he knows what he's doing.


SO.

Few things:

1: @Mod, request votecount

We need one.

2: Do we need GLG to mess up?

GLG (I think?) is replacing Gordito eventually. Do we give him a clean slate? Do we need him to mess up prior to pushing him again?

I say this because there's no way he can "defend" Gordito's actions. Gordito did just about every scummy thing you can think of someone to do on D1. Back-to-back-to-back. But he gave no real info. It's just straight up him acting stupid. This culminates with him saying "request replacement", which is a way for many people to "get out of jail free".

3: Zen

What do people think of Zen? I think he's a pivotal figure on D1. Any CONCRETE comments would be appreciated.

While I don't think he has done everything perfectly, I feel he is town.

4. The inactives

Who do you want to hear more from?

Frozen Flame is who I want to hear more from.

 

[Overswarm]

Oh, and just so you guys don't have a heart attack: not all my posts will be like that. I just needed to catch up.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Do we give him a clean slate? Do we need him to mess up prior to pushing him again?

Absolutely not, to both questions. I'm not saying lynch the replacement as soon as he's in, but I 100% think we should knock him back on his heels right away. If we don't Gordy really does get a Get Out of Jail Free Card.

OS I'm also curious to see what youtube link that is (the censor ate 3 of the letters).

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Aaaaand a bit of scum huntin'.

Stupid Google -.-. GMT-5 also makes a lot more sense, now that I think about it.

Anyways, I'm BeatStick (you can call me Beat though) and this will be my very first game of mafia. I've done quite a bit of lurking the past month though (some of you might have noticed me, I dunno), and I've skimmed through the newbie guides, so I'm familiar with *almost* all the terms and stuff. I hope I won't be considered completely ********, but if I am, please point out what I'm doing wrong .

Regardless, good luck!

I just got a towny vibe from x1. He seemed to be baiting reactions/slips a lot, which is a town tell imo.

As for gord, I said no idea before I personally believe he's town, but there were also some heavy stuff thrown at him, which made me uncertain.

Yes, Nicholas is still sorta leaning towards scum. Weak tell however.

After spending your first post entirely downplaying your ability as a mafia player, you follow up much later with a post that's...well, good. Suspiciously so. Someone who was kinda shaky on mafia terminology and the likes shouldn't have the confidence you show in that post (and others, now that I'm reading back)

So either:

1)You're bipolar, and you had a moodswing from modest to macho-man
2)You lied about how much you know/You're being coached (i.e., the scum option)
3)Some third option that I've probably overlooked

Regardless for now, I'll feel safe with my vote on you.

unvote vote Beatstick

 

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