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Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance | Final Chapter

Overswarm

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We need a lynch soon. Nich's claim is interesting in that it doesn't really make sense for Ike and it's completely unconfirmable, but I don't think there's much of a reason for Nich to throw out such an awful safe claim as scum. It is more likely he just got a unique role as town imo.

Still for GLG.
 

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I feel more strongly about GLG than Ran, can anyone counterclaim Jill? Vanilla Mercenary is obviously an unconfirmable role, but such is the curse of vanilla town. No defense when it comes to a claim.

However, the recent events have changed my mind on Red Ryu, so I'll unvote on that.

unvote

I'll be around, so I'll throw my vote on one of the wagons. I'd like to re-read GLG and Ran before I make my decision.
 

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I wont lie but Nich's claim sounds like a mafia Janitor or Yakuza who just wants to live through the one day to use the ability. Like in All-stars when I pushed towards Teran instead of GLG on D1 because "Teran was on more votes", just because it allowed GLG to use his 1 shot Jan ability before he died.


@Nich: Quote crumbs please.
 

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There are so many characters in FE that I don't guess there will be counterclaims

Still, there is an Ike claim around, do you guys think it could be a safe claim? Same question with Jill
 

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The pic was scummy because he knew I was serious and he even admitted that. Why would he search for a pic like that. There was no comedic value to the picture itself. Gord would only post a pic if it was a humorous. That wasn't. He simply posted "you got me" in the form of a picture. The same thing easily could have been said simply with words. I wonder if people would feel differently if there was no stick figure. The fact that it was in pic form doesn't change the fact that it's suspicious.
Haha, you want to lynch gboy because his sense of humour is different to yours. LOL, please don't bull**** this much in any mafia game ever again please.

@Rajam: That question about safeclaims is just pure WIFOM, don't ask stuff like that
 

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I wont lie but Nich's claim sounds like a mafia Janitor or Yakuza who just wants to live through the one day to use the ability. Like in All-stars when I pushed towards Teran instead of GLG on D1 because "Teran was on more votes", just because it allowed GLG to use his 1 shot Jan ability before he died.


@Nich: Quote crumbs please.
It's true that that is the perfect claim for a mafia janitor. He can use his ability, then claim something fake for whoever he janitors; his secondary ability is also an easy claim for scum to make. But I don't know if I'm sold on the idea of Nich being scum and claiming both those things. Yes, they're safe, but that's a lot of attention.

What crumbs do you think Nich left? Did he claim to leave crumbs on D1? Why push such a potentially powerful role?
 

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I don't know what crumbs I think Nich left, hence why I asked him, nor do I know if he did crumb but if he did then I want to see them. I'm pushing such a potentially powerful role because I want to find out if he is genuine or not, is there any reason I shouldn't push such a potentially powerful role?
 

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I don't know what crumbs I think Nich left, hence why I asked him, nor do I know if he did crumb but if he did then I want to see them. I'm pushing such a potentially powerful role because I want to find out if he is genuine or not, is there any reason I shouldn't push such a potentially powerful role?
The fact that it is a potentially powerful role, for one.
 

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but on the other hand I wouldn't want to allow scum to live just because they claimed a potentially powerful role. Otherwise scum could just look scummy D1 then claim a really powerful role and coast to endgame
 

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but on the other hand I wouldn't want to allow scum to live just because they claimed a potentially powerful role. Otherwise scum could just look scummy D1 then claim a really powerful role and coast to endgame
and yet on the other hand I wouldn't want to kill a powerful role D1.

Are you saying we just ignore his claim? Because if Nich says "I didn't leave any crumbs", his claim is clean without a counter-claim, and that's basically what we'd have to do.
 

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From what I'm reading on Ranmaru, I'm not seeing a reason to lynch him. At least not a strong one for a D1 lynch. He is legitimately trying to be helpful and ask questions which aren't worthless. I'm questioning Nich's claim, it is a nice PR role, but I doubtful if this claim is legit.

The fact no one has claimed Ike does worry me, however there are players who haven't addressed that yet, FF and Adum. It might be the fact if someone did claim Ike it could be attention for a more powerful role.

I don't believe this claim, as such I'm not changing my vote despite his claim. I'm doubtful it is legit claim.
 

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and yet on the other hand I wouldn't want to kill a powerful role D1.

Are you saying we just ignore his claim? Because if Nich says "I didn't leave any crumbs", his claim is clean without a counter-claim, and that's basically what we'd have to do.
Yes but I am questioning him about his role, so I can use that information to help make a decision on whether I believe him or not.
 

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From what I'm reading on Ranmaru, I'm not seeing a reason to lynch him. At least not a strong one for a D1 lynch. He is legitimately trying to be helpful and ask questions which aren't worthless. I'm questioning Nich's claim, it is a nice PR role, but I doubtful if this claim is legit.

The fact no one has claimed Ike does worry me, however there are players who haven't addressed that yet, FF and Adum. It might be the fact if someone did claim Ike it could be attention for a more powerful role.

I don't believe this claim, as such I'm not changing my vote despite his claim. I'm doubtful it is legit claim.
This is why Ran (Glyph) is scummy: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12035483&postcount=407

And then things like this:
Also Rajam I won't stop asking questions. Just don't read it.
"Just don't read it". Lol. So you won't mind if he ignores you when you ask him stuff? You sound like you even encourage it.

Why would you even ask something if you're fine with people "just not reading it"? Doesn't sound like an important question to me.
@ Beastick:

That was in response to this:

"Also, stop asking questions just because, most of them don't help at all."


I will keep asking questions. Why would I want people to ignore them?

If he did ignore a question that would need answering, I would ask him again. You have to be persistent when someone ignores your questions.
What kind of town would say something like this.
 

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You forget how many games of yours I have seen. You're forever a lackey, always second-fiddle to someone who is stronger and better at scum hunting; you just tunnel, except without quite as much insight as Nich does. So, you need someone else. Zen is your Swiss this game. You always have to follow someone. The question of why Zen is easy to answer; he's aggressive and quick to judge those that don't. The question of why in that moment is something else entirely, and my suspicion is that you know Gordito's alignment. It's the only way I can make sense of your actions, other than blatant stupidity and poor play.
Substantiate some of the points in here with evidence. What town games of mine have you seen? Community which was 16 games ago and FF6 where I didn't follow Swiss at all, nor anyone else if I recall correctly. What evidence do you have to think I am "Forever a lackey" and all the other things you mention in this post. Furthermore what does town gain from you posting this?
 

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OS: ANSWER MY QUESTIONS

yo



Zen stfu Ran is town. I have 100% meta on him and I am amazing at reading newbies.
My ***:
Also Ranmaru is town. Nich or RR/Raz are a much better direction.
You actually think RR is scum after his #863? He remains consistent even after he realizes he had the players mixed up. Please tell me you see this?

And stop being a **** for no reason.
 

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You actually think RR is scum after his #863? He remains consistent even after he realizes he had the players mixed up. Please tell me you see this?

And stop being a **** for no reason.
I ain't sure on RR, but its much ****ing better than Ranmaru. How can you tell me to stop being a ****? This game you have on at least two occasions said I have done things which I have not or put words in my mouth, and not only me either. You also claim to have great meta on gordito but then come to a completely incorrect conclusion about his play based on a case of complete bull****.
 

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I'm the only reason why you're alive. If you were competent enough to actually play like a town player, I wouldn't have to speak for you.

My case on Gord was bad, but it got things going. I wouldn't make such a case at a time like this.
 

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My case on Gord was bad, but it got things going. I wouldn't make such a case at a time like this.
My bull**** detector reads "false".

GLG or Nich. Everyone needs to pick one and we need a lynch. Do not rely on people being active before deadline, use your votes wisely.
 

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Please cut the bull****. You being in this game has nothing to do with me being alive, in fact you've only made me look worse by being there and giving others the impression that I could be in any way related to your absolute bull**** case. Do not act as though its the right thing to do when you speak for me. Its scummy as **** and only is there to confuse town. When you are saying I said things that I didn't, you only succeed in making yourself look scummy and confusing town.

Your case on Gord wasn't just bad, it was fundamentally full of crap and I'm pretty sure you knew it too.
 

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I'm now confused about several things in regards to X1-12 and Zen. Will reread and comment tomorrow.

Today, GLG or Nich.

EVERYONE VOTE IN YOUR POSTS. MAKE A LYNCH HAPPEN. WE HAVE INACTIVES AND NO TIME.
 

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9/16|02.01.10 11:59AM EST

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giraffelasergun|Vult Redux/Nicholas1024/Cdubs1987/Luxor/Overswarm/giraffelasergun/

Nicholas1024|Ranmaru/Zεη/BeatStick/Red Ryu/Nabe/

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Yeah, no. Nich or GLG. One of them will be toDay's play. We're split down the middle and people need to start making decisions. Since getting to this point we've had people go off in different directions after multiple players, none of which will help us because there isn't enough time to get an intelligent wagon going.

Take note of who you find scummy toDay, appraoch them tomorrow. Vote for GLG or Nich toDay based on who you think is scum.
 

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Also, that votecount is slightly outdated but my point still stands.

@mod request votecount
 

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Vote for the guy I think is town

or

Vote for the guy with a non-CC'd PR claim

lol

I will vote soon, but I really need to think right now lol.
 

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This is why Ran (Glyph) is scummy: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12035483&postcount=407

And then things like this:





What kind of town would say something like this.
Ok that clears that up.

Still compared to the others I have listed already, that may be a slip but no where near as bad as GLG/Gordito or even Nich which currently I feel like is puling a gambit on us so he can live longer.

Ran can be tomorrow or another day if he is up to bat, right now I have to agree with OS about who needs to be lynched. Getting more support when we are hours away isn't going to happen, even more so while you are one of the few if only people who has a vote on Ran atm.

You could make a case but I have two doubts.

1. You would get evidence to show he is worse than GLG and Nich, this is the main one for me.
2. we're short on time, we already had a deadline extension we can't afford to waste our time. There are times where a no lynch is acceptable, while we have two clear candidates as it stands we can't afford it or we wasted this day.

I'm sticking to Nich.
 

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My bull**** detector reads "false".

GLG or Nich. Everyone needs to pick one and we need a lynch. Do not rely on people being active before deadline, use your votes wisely.
Why did you think Nich was town?

What was pointless about that post I quoted?

Please cut the bull****. You being in this game has nothing to do with me being alive, in fact you've only made me look worse by being there and giving others the impression that I could be in any way related to your absolute bull**** case. Do not act as though its the right thing to do when you speak for me. Its scummy as **** and only is there to confuse town. When you are saying I said things that I didn't, you only succeed in making yourself look scummy and confusing town.

Your case on Gord wasn't just bad, it was fundamentally full of crap and I'm pretty sure you knew it too.
It does.

I've mentioned multiple times that mine and your pressures on Gordito were separate so no. You didn't need to pressure the same person I thought was scum, so that would be your deal, not mine.

I never said that you said anything that you didn't other than the insulting people which was a mistake.
 
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