Fire Emblem Heroes Mafia - Endgame - MAFIA VICTORY

[praline]

This is why I wanted you to protect me Wolfie557

 

[Pokechu]

I KNOW WHO IT IS I KNOW WHO IT IS I KNOW I KNOW

 

[praline]

I KNOW WHO IT IS I KNOW WHO IT IS I KNOW I KNOW

We all know, Pokechu. Victory is assured.

 

[Pokechu]

We all know, Pokechu. Victory is assured.

Who do you think it is?

 

[praline]

Who do you think it is?

Holder. He blocked me last night so I assume his ability is that his kills are unblockable outside of protection.

 

[Wolfie557]

Wait...noone died?

And what do you mean help secure a mafia victory. Thought theres no recruited memmbers. There still can't be, statistically. Huh.

Why would mafia NOT want to kill anyone?

We all know, Pokechu. Victory is assured.

I agree.



but....

I KNOW WHO IT IS I KNOW WHO IT IS I KNOW I KNOW

what did your quote proving thing say? You should tell 100% the truth, as well as the quote.

 

[Pokechu]

praline Wolfie557

Holder of the Heel YOU ARE NOT LUKAS

WHO ARE YOU BECAUSE IT AIN'T LUKAS

 

[A Distant Demon]

Also remember to vote for Silque on the last day of Choose Your Legends!

Nah man, SD marth actually has a chance of getting a unit, as slim as it is.

 

[praline]

praline Wolfie557

Holder of the Heel YOU ARE NOT LUKAS

WHO ARE YOU BECAUSE IT AIN'T LUKAS

He’s Reinhardt. He’s totally gotta be.

Wait...noone died?

And what do you mean help secure a mafia victory. Thought theres no recruited memmbers. There still can't be, statistically. Huh.

Why would mafia NOT want to kill anyone?

I agree.



but....

what did your quote proving thing say? You should tell 100% the truth, as well as the quote.

Noone died because you protected me.

 

[Wolfie557]

praline Wolfie557

Holder of the Heel YOU ARE NOT LUKAS

WHO ARE YOU BECAUSE IT AIN'T LUKAS

huh.

pls.

why.

I knew if there were no kills theres an alteranative of choosing not to kill. but huh.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Yes! It took five four nights of bodies dropping all over the place, but finally, we've made direct contact with a pony.

Vote: Praline

praline Wolfie557

Holder of the Heel YOU ARE NOT LUKAS

WHO ARE YOU BECAUSE IT AIN'T LUKAS

...You've just ruined your chance at victory scum.

Unvote: Praline
Vote: Pokechu

 

[Opossum]

Mah man, SD marth actually has a chance of getting a unit, as slim as it is.

He was my day five vote though.

 

[Pokechu]

Vote: Holder of the "Not Lukas" Heel

 

[Wolfie557]

He’s Reinhardt. He’s totally gotta be.


Noone died because you protected me.

I did not. I protected holder.

 

[Pokechu]

Yes! It took five four nights of bodies dropping all over the place, but finally, we've made direct contact with a pony.

Vote: Praline



...You've just ruined your chance at victory scum.

Unvote: Praline
Vote: Pokechu

how are you gonna tell ME i ruined MY chance at victory


i checked your "I am Lukas" quote. IT CAME UP FALSE


You can vote me all you want but it don't change the fact you AIN'T LUKAS

sorry honey, it's trick #1 in the book; don't fall for the lie detector ;^)

 

[praline]

I’ll put my vote in and I don’t mind waiting the 24 hours even though I know I’m right.

Vote: Holder of the Heel

 

[Wolfie557]

Vote: Holder of the "Not Lukas" Heel

smh this game is full of dilemas on every turn.

wtf.

Opo officially the master-creator confirmed.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Praline, I stopped you because Whiteeagle and me had been discussing you. You wanted to be protected, but we also were suspicious about you. So what we came up with was me doing instead of him, also in the hopes of stopping a death.

White covered me instead. So either you were mafia, you were attacked, or I got attacked.

But Pokechu has fortunately just made the process of elimination a LOT easier than I was fearing it was going to be.

 

[praline]

I did not. I protected holder.

What!?

I feel betrayed.

...I thought we thought Holder was the mafia... why woukd you protect him?

 

[Pokechu]

Holder, how would my ability come up wrong. Give me a reason. Because all the other times I've used it it's been correct.

 

[Wolfie557]

Yes! It took five four nights of bodies dropping all over the place, but finally, we've made direct contact with a pony.

Vote: Praline



...You've just ruined your chance at victory scum.

Unvote: Praline
Vote: Pokechu

Okay. what. Explain.

Thought ur gonna vote Praline.

Im so ****ing lost.

Once ****ing again.

Three ****ing phases in a row I'm ****ing lost

...

I'll sleep on this.

Vote: Whiteagle.

Notice its not bolded senpai.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

If you had just remained silent Pokechu, you would have likely won, because White and me were nearly all but convinced praline was mafia, and upon seeing no one dying I had felt even more assured. But you've opted to open the day with your gambit, and that was a mistake. GG.

 

[praline]

What the hell is happening? Why would people vote me?

 

[Wolfie557]

Praline, I stopped you because Whiteeagle and me had been discussing you. You wanted to be protected, but we also were suspicious about you. So what we came up with was me doing instead of him, also in the hopes of stopping a death.

White covered me instead. So either you were mafia, you were attacked, or I got attacked.

But Pokechu has fortunately just made the process of elimination a LOT easier than I was fearing it was going to be.

I suppose...that does...make sense...

He did say to me he will quote you tho.

 

[praline]

If you had just remained silent Pokechu, you would have likely won, because White and me were nearly all but convinced praline was mafia, and upon seeing no one dying I had felt even more assured. But you've opted to open the day with your gambit, and that was a mistake. GG.

Uhh... what did he do?

Also I wanted to be protected cause I thought you were mafia and you’d go for me cause I had the redirect and could redirect your kill back at yourself.

 

[Pokechu]

If you had just remained silent Pokechu, you would have likely won, because White and me were nearly all but convinced praline was mafia, and upon seeing no one dying I had felt even more assured. But you've opted to open the day with your gambit, and that was a mistake. GG.

you're NOT lukas

how many times i gotta say it

you not lukas. there. square up. point blank AND simple. you done lied last phase. it's over. bye.

praline I was honestly a bit worried that you were mafia and you had an ability that made you come up clean, because when I checked you with my quote ability it just confirmed you were not suspicious. So I told Holder and White idk even though I'm 99.5% sure she's a townie keep an eye out. but IDK why they're voting you, we ALL know it's holder

Wolfie557 I told you quotes I was using. I was able to confirm if Holder was Lukas or not. HE ISN'T. Why would he lie about his character unless he was MAFIA?

 

[Holder of the Heel]

What the hell is happening? Why would people vote me?

When the Night started White and me have a PM for Nights and he got to messaging me about how odd you've been behaving, demanding to be protected for the Night, and we checked and White thought you may have been the one to first put out the idea of --- being a strongman, which we ended up discovering to be true. We've been looking at your posts overall and felt that you weren't as concerned as everyone else, not pitching in, so we agreed that he would instead cover me and I'd be protecting you, and also stopping you.

 

[Pokechu]

Holder you have the option to kill no one at night. You killed no one, protected Praline, and had White protect you SO you could paint ME as the mafia because I WAS RIGHT ABOUT MY SUSPICIONS LAST DAY.

praline don't believe Holder. I CHECKED him and he LIED about being Lukas. LYNCH ALL LIARS.

 

[praline]

When the Night started White and me have a PM for Nights and he got to messaging me about how odd you've been behaving, demanding to be protected for the Night, and we checked and White thought you may have been the one to first put out the idea of --- being a strongman, which we ended up discovering to be true. We've been looking at your posts overall and felt that you weren't as concerned as everyone else, not pitching in, so we agreed that he would instead cover me and I'd be protecting you, and also stopping you.

Well like I said I thought I was gonna be attacked at night because of the redirect secondary ability I had(which I had no more uses of). I thought - - - was the strongman cause I used my last redirect on him and nothing happened. I also wasn’t pitching in cause really I had nothing to add outside what wasn’t already said. Also the lack of concern is just my normal attitude in life seeping into the game. :/

 

[Pokechu]

If you had just remained silent Pokechu, you would have likely won, because White and me were nearly all but convinced praline was mafia, and upon seeing no one dying I had felt even more assured. But you've opted to open the day with your gambit, and that was a mistake. GG.

What, so cause I vote for you when you LIED about your character, I'm the bad guy? That's cute, crying and throwing a fit when you're exposed. But you can go MEET THE OTHERS in the graveyard. I'm sure Swamp and Red miss you.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Pokechu, during the Night you didn't even try to come up with a way to prove yourself.

I'm curious, is there anything you want me to prove with my ability? Do you have a quote in mind that you want me to test? Since IDK how I can prove this mumbojumbo otherwise

Honestly, I feel like it's too late in the game to try and prove this role I have. I used my ability to find out Praline's alignment, I don't see what else I could find out using these quotes that'd actually prove my role.

If you have any ideas by all means I'm all ears but it's too late to track people and find out who they PM'd and I can only do that on even nights and what quotes would I use to factcheck at this point?

And now you're going to try and say this?

but IDK why they're voting you, we ALL know it's holder

Are you serious right now?

 

[Pokechu]

Pokechu, during the Night you didn't even try to come up with a way to prove yourself.




And now you're going to try and say this?



Are you serious right now?

The first is last night, two hours after the day ended. Of course I'd be frustrated still after people not backing me up against you because there wasn't a way to prove my role.

The second is three hours before this night phase ended when I have a clear mind.

Don't try and use text to fight ME when I made a WHOLE Great Wall of it to fight YOU.

edit: english

 

[praline]

Y’know honestly I kinda want Pokechu to be the last mafia just cause that’d make this game more wild.

 

[Pokechu]

Y’know honestly I kinda want Pokechu to be the last mafia just cause that’d make this game more wild.

Praline voting me will make the both of you and White lose. Please don't follow them. I don't mind if it's a tie between me and Holder. But please just trust me on this. Holder said he was Lukas but I am the lie detector and he is lying.

 

[praline]

How about pokechu and I vote Holder and Holder and White vote Pokechu.

You can both sacrifice eachother if you’re so sure one is the mafia and then the town wins.

 

[Pokechu]

Wolfie557 I literally showed you the quote I'm using, I showed you it when I showed you the rest of the ones I picked. Why are you so against voting for Holder when I'm the lie detector? Why would the lie detector choose to lie about their results? I don't understand.

Y'all can make it a tie but I really wanted to live to the end of my first mafia game, especially when I knew who the baddie was two days ago. And you didn't listen to me then either. :^(

 

[Holder of the Heel]

You attack me late at Night when I'm gone when suspicion starts to fall on you which was a total 180 from how we had been before that. Then you vote for me. I counter all the points you made and you didn't know what to say back, and you apologized. Then you leave the vote on me, I point it out and you remove it and act all mistaken. --- dies from all of us voting him and you cry out after the day is done to tell everyone that I just had to be mafia because of it, immediately taking back everything you had said.

Then when the Night started going and we spoke you said it was wack for you to think it was me because of White. You ask for quotes to check and you do something really weird when I offer suggestions.

And testing for Praline's character seems really smart! That's a really good idea. And I tried looking for a quote about White's because I know he's armored but from the looks of it there weren't any quotes I could use.

Who could it be though? I KNOW you're a townie. Jailkeeper is often townie, and theoretically it could be mafia, but mafia already had someone with a roleblocker ability. Two of them might be a bit much.

So that counts out me, you, and Holder. White came up with the plan to use his shield, and because he's an armored unit (Arden) it makes sense why he has the shield.

You already knew the name of his character from that day he claimed it.

Which means you were just playing dumb and were only pretending to be asking about using this impossible to prove ability of yours.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Wolfie557 I literally showed you the quote I'm using, I showed you it when I showed you the rest of the ones I picked. Why are you so against voting for Holder when I'm the lie detector? Why would the lie detector choose to lie about their results? I don't understand.

Why are you now acting like your role hasn't been coming under doubt and that you flat out said it can't be proven?

Don't bully praline with your false authority.

 

[praline]

What is Pokechu’s second ability even?

If you mentioned I forgot.

 

[Wolfie557]

Okay it does not help I am working 2 long shifts tomorrow from 11am to 11pm basically while its already almsot 2am. SO not a of quality sleep or a lot of time throughout the day to think clearly and properly.

What the hell is happening? Why would people vote me?

The way you acted in our night PM kinda proved to me a theory I thought of based of something i realised early in last night. So whole night trying to stop you.

Here is the theory. SInce i think the only way to find out the mafia now is to have everything in the open. Idk if it was posted in the graveyard or not so maybe you would have read this later anyway.

Spoiler: long but also a certain bit pointed out

Yes. It all makes sense. I thought it was praline that did the Xander namedrop but wasn't sure since it was so early. Oppo said the clues have been there / are there just now in the day end message.

Xander in FEH often goes against the villains controlling him. Veronica and the fire guy iirc. Meaning Xander is Mafia Traitor...maybe balancing Swamps OP mafia role. Perhaps that's why praline or Pokechu let mafia be killed. You blocked Swamp, right? Swamp used up his OP abilities by then.

Just like bomb jailer probably is town side especially since mafia had a nerfed blocker for balance.

Best to trust bomb about no strongman. Xander doesnt sound like a strongman and his magical powers can explain the redirecting. Oppo said magic is everything. It's a move/passive ability that Reinhard has in FEH so clearly a way for the host to add confusion to town, which is described by mafia wiki to act as balance against town. Reinhard could have still been there but it doesn't matter who NSG was anymore.

Now then, this explains why you blocking Pokechu meant that Pokechu claimed he got blocked...and praline redirected bomb to be safe against his kill. She couldn't be sure when the kill happens. Tri could have lied some bits and that was a risk Praline didn't want to take.

Or belived him and pretended to redirect Tri since his ability meant he can't do anything at night as long as Praline doesn't kill him. I'm pretty sure Praline knew Golden was shipping someone and knew who you were roleblocks get. Meaning pretending to redirect --- while in fact, redirecting me so that I cannot protect shish or golden. Idk if praline knew who golden was shipping with. I can't prove If I was redirected because I, stupidly, did not protect golden. Even then would I get a message? It's not like my ability got blocked. And it's possible it got redirected to you anyway who I was protecting making sure you could Roleblock Pokechu, giving Praline the cover for strongman theory as she wasn't the only one blocking.

Praline was also the one iirc who brought up the strongman theory to begin with. (We need to check this) Meaning it was all planned in advance.

Also very very quickly after Opo officially revealed Tri as bomb, praline started a new pm with me and kinda aggressively urged me to Protect her. This was similar to how Red kinda aggressively wanted to know my roles etc. This means she's hoping I do not protect you or pokechu, also getting me on her side for the next day to lynch you or Pokechu this giving Praline the win. It's likely if that's the plan she would try kill you tonight since at day, she saw you were the most clever while me and pokechu were making mistakes and contradictions and continously spreading Swamps recruitment bias. Plus me not protecting you means that she gets a free kill on one of the protective roles and like I said gets me on her side. Depending on what i or we say she can easily just kill Pokechu freely. And still getting me on her side thinking you are the mafia.

Edit Furthermore my suggestion during the day about the mafia traitor was largely ignored and if I questioned that praline or anyone could have said that me myself already crossed out that theory /edit.

Therefore I should try and do the opposite of everything I said with Praline aka try and do her plans. Get u to not Roleblock praline and me to protect Pokechu or Praline. While Pokechu to try and quote anyone but her. While you pretend we are not working together maybe a little but against Pokechu. In the end saying your accepting Pralines decision who to block.

That said, this should be kept a secret from Pokechu. For now. And we attempt to prove him Town. Makes him believable he isn't working with us.


And later:
More points against praline:

That post about mafia reading this like (insert popcorn gif here) making us pschycologicaly overlook praline even more even tho she is the one secretly enjoying the madness. Whether or not that was the intent she was at least trolling XD. I'm tempted to troll praline at day if tonight goes well.

Her snooping ability can be mafia aligned it's similar to the rolecop which is any alignment according to mafia wiki. Instead of directly confirming the role, since she has redirect already for balance purposes she has to figure it out based on extra information revealed from PMs.

Then again the rolecop could be Pokechu. A rolecop strongman is unlikely and nobody has yet blocked praline herself. I think thats why she was in a bit of panic mode when she realised the same thing could happen that she did to me last game. Pokechu might be the balance against Pralines snooping.

If praline gets blocked and a kill happens we can figure out that later. The " if I'm wrong then these are reasons who is mafia" (without having any confirmed info based on the killed person) hypothetical scenarios so far never helped me.

So I'll protect you again tonight. You should Roleblock Praline. This would in turn protect me if I fail and thinks I'm a threat or she is lying about using me. I'll do the same thing I did with Red and slyly make her believe you should be the kill target. I've already did that but said things about Pokechu. Chances are she already wants to kill you anyway. She thinks I'mprotecting her and am on her side so that leaves you as the problem.

I already can add 1- 2 more things to holders list of 3 possibilities as to why noone died. Meaning if praline is not mafia i may have truly costed town the game by not protecting Golden. >.<

I must check who knew about Golden shipping someone. Again a chance even if mafia had no idea, could have decided its likely he will ship someone.

I can totally see everything, mafia. I'm warning you. I must work on something like in the spoiler but against Holder and against Pokechu. Then i'll see which theory makes the most sense.

its possible NSG was reindhard. Its possible he was Xander. Giving 2 possibilities. If xander is alive I think I know who. If reindhard is alive I think I know who but Xander person could be Reindhard just as easy whereas the opposite can't be said about the other person IMO.

I will sleep on this bias thats is giving me a mini - mid-life crisis at an early age and an mentally emotional mental breakdown. XD.

This is some REALLY good mafia game right here.