Fire Emblem Heroes Mafia - Endgame - MAFIA VICTORY

[Wolfie557]

You doubt I’m a townie?

depends how many mafia there are. but even now, yh, a tiny bit. Only possible you are mafia if you have been recruited, thats why.

 

[praline]

depends how many mafia there are. but even now, yh, a tiny bit. Only possible you are mafia if you have been recruited, thats why.

Well I’m not recruited and I doubt honestly that anyone has. I think Swampy was just trying to mess with our heads.

 

[Wolfie557]

Well I’m not recruited and I doubt honestly that anyone has. I think Swampy was just trying to mess with our heads.

That leaves Holder and ---. Those are the 2 I'm stuck with.

Pokechu too if he didnt know about your redirect. But he did.

I think with Holder at least we could prove him mafia/scum, depending on who he blocks and who dies if --- gets lynched and the game does not end.

I'll laugh if they are both the mafia. They have roles that can uncommonly be part of mafia. Not sure if thats the case with bomb but yh. Can see a bomb mafia.

 

[Pokechu]

Pokechu you said you were going to explain why you trust praline completely from your role, and I also asked about it during the Night, but you never told me.... Why?

Someone said a quote that I was able to fact check and get praline's alignment from. I can't say what quote though; already asked Opossum that.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Someone said a quote that I was able to fact check and get praline's alignment from. I can't say what quote though; already asked Opossum that.

...What? So we can’t verify you or her then?

When you were sharing the quotes you wanted to check you didn’t say about anything like that. Does praline know what you checked? Then she’d be able to say it right?

Sorry I’m just asking because if you can flat out get alignment from your power, then it is basically another Cop, but that would be strange. If you can do it and not have to explain the nature of it at all then it becomes impossible to know whether you’re telling the truth, and by extension in this case whether praline is confirmed town.

 

[praline]

...What? So we can’t verify you or her then?

When you were sharing the quotes you wanted to check you didn’t say about anything like that. Does praline know what you checked? Then she’d be able to say it right?

Sorry I’m just asking because if you can flat out get alignment from your power, then it is basically another Cop, but that would be strange. If you can do it and not have to explain the nature of it at all then it becomes impossible to know whether you’re telling the truth, and by extension in this case whether praline is confirmed town.

He never told me what the quote was.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

He never told me what the quote was.

And you don't find that odd? I'll wait until he gets back before I push it further though.

 

[Wolfie557]

And you don't find that odd? I'll wait until he gets back before I push it further though.

If he was mafia why would he kill red then and put himself at risk. I could have lied and not protected him, thus killing him by letting praline redirect to him.

There are strong points as to why you are mafia, as said by Pokechu, tho you countered many of them nicely.
Theres also good points against ---.

Maybe we could make a tie breaker between the 2?

 

[Pokechu]

I went to Zeb the first night and asked him if he was suspicious of Praline bc I was too. Then I told him my abilities and later on that I found a quote about Praline I could use. I asked Opossum if I could show him the quote but Opossum said due to the nature of my role, I sadly could not.

But I literally did send you three different quotes Holder of the Heel so maybe Opossum changed his mind?

Yo Opossum ! Can I show them the quote now?

 

[Pokechu]

I'm Saber by the way. At the time it made sense why I couldn't show the quotes but at this point it's just limiting so idk

I was thinking that I could show people quotes I was considering but not tell them which one I actually used? Idk if Opossum lets me then yeah of course I'm gonna show the quote

 

[Wolfie557]

I'm Saber by the way. At the time it made sense why I couldn't show the quotes but at this point it's just limiting so idk

I was thinking that I could show people quotes I was considering but not tell them which one I actually used? Idk if Opossum lets me then yeah of course I'm gonna show the quote

really. he looks like the mafia. XD

and didn't you claim someone else b4?

 

[Pokechu]

really. he looks like the mafia. XD

and didn't you claim someone else b4?

I've only claimed Saber and the only person I told was Shishoe. He's Sonic. I told him because we were role playing; that's why I was always saying we had "fun" lol

I'm 99% sure I told Praline that we were role playing that night but I'm not sure

I didn't tell her my character though

 

[praline]

I've only claimed Saber and the only person I told was Shishoe. He's Sonic. I told him because we were role playing; that's why I was always saying we had "fun" lol

I'm 99% sure I told Praline that we were role playing that night but I'm not sure

I didn't tell her my character though

I don’t remember you saying that but I’m really forgetful.

 

[Wolfie557]

Well...if --- is town mafia won't be killing him at night since he is bomb. He revealed this quiete some time ago, the perfect excuse as to why he is alive if he is mafia.

Holders ability seems more dangerous if mafia but I think a town jailer is more common than a town bomb. If mafia he might have to jail someone every night along with a kill. Not sure. If town we can still use holders role at night for our own benefit. Guess my point is Holders role is more useful to us as mafia won't try and target --- and instead lynch. But since Pokechu is kinda a cop that explains why holder might want to lynch Pokechu which is where I feel he is going.

@--- what is your second ability? Holder of the Heel , what is yours?

 

[Pokechu]

That sucks! To be honest though if Opossum would get mad at something I think he'd already be mad, I sent him ELEVEN different quotes before I found one that worked.

Also since he is here right now and he saw me ask I don't think he'd be upset. I think he's more upset at me and Shish right now, we're literally roleplaying lol

It's your choice though, don't let me pressure you!

I don't wanna quote don't your response or what you said before without your permission

 

[Wolfie557]

Huh. Roleplay is a big part of Mafia usually....why would he be mad at that.

 

[Pokechu]

Oh no it's not that kind of roleplay...

I'll show you some quotes

 

[Opossum]

Oh no it's not that kind of roleplay...

I'll show you some quotes

...
Please don't.

 

[Pokechu]

Aww I had it all formatted too, quoting PMs is hard on mobile lol

If you all want to see it by all means ask away but Opossum stepping in should be proof enough

 

[praline]

So really have we made any headway on who we should vote for?

 

[Pokechu]

So really have we made any headway on who we should vote for?

Honestly, no.

We haven't moved at all. We're suspicious of me, Holder, and ---, I'm still a suck-up for --- for some reason, I'm still wary of Holder for some reason (I'm so sorry for those walls of text Holder omg) and you and White have still been pretty clean.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Still waiting on details about that check, Pokechu.

@--- what is your second ability? Holder of the Heel , what is yours?

--- already answered that he has the ability to protect himself from Xander, only two shots of it, and he used it. Kinda a specific power, because it means not only must he be targeted but Xander must be the one doing it, and he has limited uses of it. A bit iffy on that, but then again, people died and praline supposedly redirected his actions last Night.

I don't have a second power. Not everyone has one. Shishoe, Aurane, nor Golden had one I think. Mine is already two effects wrapped in one ability already, protection and blocking.

 

[Pokechu]

Still waiting on details about that check, Pokechu.



--- already answered that he has the ability to protect himself from Xander, only two shots of it, and he used it. Kinda a specific power, because it means not only must he be targeted but Xander must be the one doing it, and he has limited uses of it. A bit iffy on that, but then again, people died and praline supposedly redirected his actions last Night.

I don't have a second power. Not everyone has one. Shishoe, Aurane, nor Golden had one I think. Mine is already two effects wrapped in one ability already, protection and blocking.

I @'d Opossum an hour ago. Considering he has responded to the thread, I think that's him silently confirming that I can't show the quote. Unless you want me to confirm something else?

 

[Pokechu]

Uhh, if it helps, I used my tracking ability on Shiny Night 2 and I found out he talked to Red. I asked Red and he sent me this.

Shiny PMs:
- I sent exactly two PMs to Shiny. I received exactly one PM from Shiny.
- First one was very similar to the one you received, because I believed (and still believe) he's a Townie.
- Sidenote: Between maintenance and messages, he's Feh. Mafia would have no need of that role - they thrive on less information, not more, because they already got the most important info in the game. Shiny's town.
- Second one was Shiny noting Swamp's vote. He believed Swamp was Town.
- Third was me also telling him I believed Swamp was Town. I think the Cop got a bum result due to flavor. Apollo pieced this together too actually.
- And that's it. Haven't PMd him since. Honestly, was concerned after last game that he'd talk to the wrong person and let the wrong thing slip. Kind of back and forth on that decision now.

 

[Wolfie557]

Still waiting on details about that check, Pokechu.



--- already answered that he has the ability to protect himself from Xander, only two shots of it, and he used it. Kinda a specific power, because it means not only must he be targeted but Xander must be the one doing it, and he has limited uses of it. A bit iffy on that, but then again, people died and praline supposedly redirected his actions last Night.

I don't have a second power. Not everyone has one. Shishoe, Aurane, nor Golden had one I think. Mine is already two effects wrapped in one ability already, protection and blocking.

Oh. So its basically the same thing as me.....just without the xander bit. His is even harder.

But I'll vote with the same logic i had earlier. This post doesn't affect it.

Vote: --- Tri

Holder is more useful to us. If --- is not town, well, we should probbably still be okay for another night and day. If not, sorry for not talking with Golden as I should have - costing town the game after the success of Swamp and Red.

I sure hope --- you won't kill me when you die being lynched.....otherwise town might lose. This is assuming you are town. Your sacrifice would help us find the mafia but kinda need my role. So if town, speak up.

 

[praline]

Oh. So its basically the same thing as me.....just without the xander bit. His is even harder.

But I'll vote with the same logic i had earlier. This post doesn't affect it.

Vote: --- Tri

Holder is more useful to us. If --- is not town, well, we should probbably still be okay for another night and day. If not, sorry for not talking with Golden as I should have - costing town the game after the success of Swamp and Red.

I sure hope --- you won't kill me when you die being lynched.....otherwise town might lose. This is assuming you are town. Your sacrifice would help us find the mafia but kinda need my role. So if town, speak up.

If you do survive the night you should protect me.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Uhh, if it helps, I used my tracking ability on Shiny Night 2 and I found out he talked to Red. I asked Red and he sent me this.

Ehhh this is all really shaky on how much I can know any of this is legit... And the whole PM test thing smells pretty bad now that I know that apparently it is as strong as the cop and can't be confirmed, ever.

I've noticed that you pretty much backpedaled completely when I countered all of those posts you made, but silently left your vote on me.

Your behavior today and all that I've learned, or rather not learned about you today, has really made me rethink what's going on with you.

But this bomb thing still exists, and the day is almost over... UGH.

 

[Wolfie557]

If you do survive the night you should protect me.

Potentially. We can talk about it later. If i live the lynch.

Ehhh this is all really shaky on how much I can know any of this is legit... And the whole PM test thing smells pretty bad now that I know that apparently it is as strong as the cop and can't be confirmed, ever.

I've noticed that you pretty much backpedaled completely when I countered all of those posts you made, but silently left your vote on me.

Your behavior today and all that I've learned, or rather not learned about you today, has really made me rethink what's going on with you.

But this bomb thing still exists, and the day is almost over... UGH.

I understand you completely. But why would he kill mafia? Is he a mafia traitor? If so, whats his winning condition...

 

[Pokechu]

Ehhh this is all really shaky on how much I can know any of this is legit... And the whole PM test thing smells pretty bad now that I know that apparently it is as strong as the cop and can't be confirmed, ever.

I've noticed that you pretty much backpedaled completely when I countered all of those posts you made, but silently left your vote on me.

Your behavior today and all that I've learned, or rather not learned about you today, has really made me rethink what's going on with you.

But this bomb thing still exists, and the day is almost over... UGH.

Honestly there are some limits to my ability. If it's too direct (ex: someone said "I am a townie") then I can't check it, but if it's "I am suspicious" then I can.

And I left your vote on you? Shoot my bad I thought I lifted it, my apologies

UNVOTE: Holder

I wish there was someway to confirm my role. But I simply don't see a way how. Unless you want me to hint at the quote I used? Would that be allowed Opossum ?

And I won't lie, I was really compulsive when I made that Great Wall of Text on you. So if I seem suspicious shoot I'm not surprised. But this far, on my (basically) first mafia game? With all that's happened in the past phases? Nothing could have prepared me for this

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Whiteeagle is going for the lynch against --- which makes sense if he's town, and it'd be the last person he would want revealed to everyone if he's mafia.

But --- was redirected... so I'd have to assume that --- has a strongarm way of bypassing it that he used last Night. Kinda a stretch to allow the theory to hold water.

Pokechu, we're proving your role toNight if toDay doesn't end the game. Me and you are going to talk specifics with your role so I can know 100% that these limitations are legitimate. I won't cover you, and perhaps White can cover you, or if White is not mafia he'll be targeted (but if the game continues, --- is town which means White might be mafia). Whatever, I don't think I have the luxury to worry about what ifs upon what ifs.

Vote: ---

Opossum please end this.

 

[Pokechu]

shoot Opossum just slid in my DM's and told me I can hint at the quote as long as it's decently vague. But honestly I don't know vague.

So I'll confirm what makes sense? It was said during Day 1. REALLY early on in terms of page number. And it was said by someone who's now dead.

If you guys want me to confirm anything else to help you find the quote then please do.

oh yeah I've said this before, it was about praline. So "Praline abcdefhgi54g54ug45ign". At this point if you just start from day 1 and ctrl+f praline you should find it.

 

[praline]

Well I guess I’ll vote.

Vote: - - -

 

[Pokechu]

in an hour we'll either be RELIEVED or in HELL

Sorry --- :^(

shoot if we were just gonna lynch him now yall could had vote me to vote for no one during the tiebreaker last day

Vote: ---

 

[praline]

in an hour we'll either be RELIEVED or in HELL

Sorry --- :^(

shoot if we were just gonna lynch him now yall could had vote me to vote for no one during the tiebreaker last day

Vote: ---

If we don’t win tonight we will win on the next day.

 

[Wolfie557]

Whiteeagle is going for the lynch against --- which makes sense if he's town, and it'd be the last person he would want revealed to everyone if he's mafia.

But --- was redirected... so I'd have to assume that --- has a strongarm way of bypassing it that he used last Night. Kinda a stretch to allow the theory to hold water.

Pokechu, we're proving your role toNight if toDay doesn't end the game. Me and you are going to talk specifics with your role so I can know 100% that these limitations are legitimate. I won't cover you, and perhaps White can cover you, or if White is not mafia he'll be targeted (but if the game continues, --- is town which means White might be mafia). Whatever, I don't think I have the luxury to worry about what ifs upon what ifs.

Vote: ---

Opossum please end this.

I wanna prove both of your oles in that case.

And if you wanna prove Pokechu.

Best to let him have yes or no quotes to prove.


Anyways.
Pokechu I'm the doctor. I am the bodyguard. I am not mafia. I killed red. Holder is the jailer. The jailer is town aligned. The jailer is on towns side. Praline was not recruited. Swamp lied about recruitment.

Would that work?

Also whatever the lynch is it can't be a tie. Mafia can manipulate the tie in their favour way too easy.

 

[Pokechu]

I wanna prove both of your oles in that case.

And if you wanna prove Pokechu.

Best to let him have yes or no quotes to prove.


Anyways.
Pokechu I'm the doctor. I am the bodyguard. I am not mafia. I killed red. Holder is the jailer. The jailer is town aligned. The jailer is on towns side. Praline was not recruited. Swamp lied about recruitment.

Would that work?

Also whatever the lynch is it can't be a tie. Mafia can manipulate the tie in their favour way too easy.

In order to prove my role, you'd have to protect me as I use my ability during the night and get the information when the night phase ends.

I think some of those I could use but IDK Opossum might feel that they're too direct, or that I "prompted" them (says in my role PM that I can't prompt quotes so I can't tell someone oh say you're a townie)

My role is a clustermess.

EDIT: Also, it's only one quote per night.

 

[Wolfie557]

In order to prove my role, you'd have to protect me as I use my ability during the night and get the information when the night phase ends.

I think some of those I could use but IDK Opossum might feel that they're too direct, or that I "prompted" them (says in my role PM that I can't prompt quotes so I can't tell someone oh say you're a townie)

My role is a clustermess.

EDIT: Also, it's only one quote per night.

But u didnt. Holder promted me by promting you to prompt somebody

Oh **** one quote....idk how holder plans to prove your role. I can only see how you can prove others while holder could prove yours..somehow..I vaguely have an idea that prob won't work.

 

[Pokechu]

But u didnt. Holder promted me by promting you to prompt somebody

Oh **** one quote....idk how holder plans to prove your role. I can only see how you can prove others while holder could prove yours..somehow..I vaguely have an idea that prob won't work.

Good point lol

and fire away! any idea at this point is good

 

[praline]

I don’t wanna preemptively celebrate but I think town won again...

 

[Pokechu]

I don’t wanna preemptively celebrate but I think town won again...

Did we ever figure out how if you redirected ---'s ability to himself, how he could be mafia? I might've missed something but idk