Fire Emblem Heroes Mafia - Endgame - MAFIA VICTORY

[praline]

Guys - - - is the mafia.

Vote: - - -

 

[praline]

Wait... ffs 2 deaths? If there’s ****ing 2 mafia left I’ll be pissed.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

 

[Pokechu]

Vote: ---

 

[Pokechu]

wait was swamp telling the truth???

unless golden paired himself up to shish for some reason how did this happen

 

[praline]

Well **** if there’s 2 left I need to really think about it cause if we lynch a townie we have a guaranteed loss.

 

[Pokechu]

wait

if there's 2 mafia 3 townie

and we lynch a townie

the mafia will win because the numbers are equal....

 

[Pokechu]

FORGET THIS im bout 2 pack my bags and go back 2 pixie hollow bye y'all

i miss being tinkerbell

 

[praline]

wait

if there's 2 mafia 3 townie

and we lynch a townie

the mafia will win because the numbers are equal....

Or maybe - - - isn’t the mafia and since Golden linked himself with Shish the person that was the real mafia hit Golden...

 

[praline]

Not even maybe. Last night actually confirmed - - - isn’t mafia.

If - - - was mafia he’d be dead today and we would probably have won.

Unvote: - - -

 

[Wolfie557]

Wait... ffs 2 deaths? If there’s ****ing 2 mafia left I’ll be pissed.

nah golden linked himself to shishoe.

 

[Pokechu]

Or maybe - - - isn’t the mafia and since Golden linked himself with Shish the person that was the real mafia hit Golden...

Who could it be though? I KNOW you're a townie. Jailkeeper is often townie, and theoretically it could be mafia, but mafia already had someone with a roleblocker ability. Two of them might be a bit much.

So that counts out me, you, and Holder. White came up with the plan to use his shield, and because he's an armored unit (Arden) it makes sense why he has the shield.

That leaves --- but he's claimed Ryoma, who's likely a character if there really is a Xander.

--- would be dead today unless they carried out the actions through another mafia. But the question is, who?

Unvote: ---

I HAVE AN IDEA

none of us vote. Then it'll be a tiebreaker for all of us. None of us vote. Then we eliminate the mafia!! /s

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Sonic the Hedgehog?

And I thought IS putting in another Eirika in FEH was a poor choice. Opossum you are the absolute worst dude.

Two deaths with one body in tact... that means Golden paired Shishoe with him for some reason??? Did he tell anyone about why he'd do that?

I haven't learned anything significant over the Night, so I'm going to have to go with our two bomb dilemma, and between White and ---, it's not difficult to pick which one is more likely mafia.

Vote: ---

 

[praline]

Who could it be though? I KNOW you're a townie. Jailkeeper is often townie, and theoretically it could be mafia, but mafia already had someone with a roleblocker ability. Two of them might be a bit much.

So that counts out me, you, and Holder. White came up with the plan to use his shield, and because he's an armored unit (Arden) it makes sense why he has the shield.

That leaves --- but he's claimed Ryoma, who's likely a character if there really is a Xander.

--- would be dead today unless they carried out the actions through another mafia. But the question is, who?

Unvote: ---

I HAVE AN IDEA

none of us vote. Then it'll be a tiebreaker for all of us. None of us vote. Then we eliminate the mafia!! /s

That’s easy... it’s you.

You’re the last mafia. It’s gotta be you.

 

[praline]

Sonic the Hedgehog?

And I thought IS putting in another Eirika in FEH was a poor choice. Opossum you are the absolute worst dude.

Two deaths with one body in tact... that means Golden paired Shishoe with him for some reason??? Did he tell anyone about why he'd do that?

I haven't learned anything significant over the Night, so I'm going to have to go with our two bomb dilemma, and between White and ---, it's not difficult to pick which one is more likely mafia.

Vote: ---

- - - can’t be mafia. He would be the one that died if he were. Who did you use your ability on last night?

 

[Wolfie557]

edit; Btw Golden im so sorry for suspecing you for so long XD

- - - can’t be mafia. He would be the one that died if he were. Who did you use your ability on last night?

he didnt he got jailed by holder.

EDIT: Holder of the Heel did Pokechu sound like he wanted you to block him?

Then again if pokechu got blocked....he wouldnt be able to kill. But the second mafia could...

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Ah crap that's right the redirection of --- onto himself.

- - - can’t be mafia. He would be the one that died if he were. Who did you use your ability on last night?

I jailed Pokechu, so it can't be him either though...

Unvote: ---

Either the recruit thing is real, or praline is actually the mafia and this whole redirection thing is just a ploy.

No wait, or is it White and not --- that is the fake bomb????? But then what happened to Red?

 

[praline]

Ah crap that's right the redirection of --- onto himself.



I jailed Pokechu, so it can't be him either though...

Unvote: ---

Either the recruit thing is real, or praline is actually the mafia and this whole redirection thing is just a ploy.

I’m not mafia, if you wanna vote for me. Whatever but I’m not mafia.

It can’t be White, cause why would he help us as much as he has... this is so annoying.

 

[Wolfie557]

Praline...how do we know you used your ability?

Pokechu, what were your abilities again?

Ah crap that's right the redirection of --- onto himself.



I jailed Pokechu, so it can't be him either though...

Unvote: ---

Either the recruit thing is real, or praline is actually the mafia and this whole redirection thing is just a ploy.

No wait, or is it White and not --- that is the fake bomb????? But then what happened to Red?

I killed Red and not with a bomb!

 

[praline]

Opossum can I post a pic of me using my ability from the pm or is that not allowed?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Opossum can I post a pic of me using my ability from the pm or is that not allowed?

Not Opo but pics are strictly prohibited in ANY mafia game.

 

[praline]

Not Opo but pics are strictly prohibited in ANY mafia game.

Pfff you basically are Opo.

Wolfie557 I did use it on - - - last night, you don’t have to trust me but I’m 100% honest.

 

[Opossum]

Not Opo but pics are strictly prohibited in ANY mafia game.

I am Opo and I agree with Swamp.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

EDIT: Holder of the Heel did Pokechu sound like he wanted you to block him?

Opossum can I quote PMs in here?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Pfff you basically are Opo.

They know....

 

[Opossum]

Opossum can I quote PMs in here?

Yes, just don't screenshot (screenshoot?) it.

 

[Pokechu]

the real question is why would golden tie HIMSELF to someone

like if he was suspicious of two people I could see him tying them together to eliminate suspects but HIMSELF? it's like he expected to be protected during the night or supported someway... that way if he was linked to someone two people would get the benefit

edit; Btw Golden im so sorry for suspecing you for so long XD

he didnt he got jailed by holder.

EDIT: Holder of the Heel did Pokechu sound like he wanted you to block him?

Then again if pokechu got blocked....he wouldnt be able to kill. But the second mafia could...

I went to him purely to discuss what happened/vent about what happened and to ask to get jailkeeped to live for Day 5. I asked him for his opinion on everything that happened this morning (approximately 12 hours ago) because it was a lot to take in for a mafia newbie like me, and then I later on asked him to jail me so I could "live to the end" (if he quotes me then that's something I actually said). I also told him what we would miss out on if I was jailed and I showed him quotes I was thinking of checking.

edit: added a few things and changed some wording

 

[Z25]

Yes, just don't screenshot (screenshoot?) it.

nah its screenshot, you had it right.

 

[Wolfie557]

If Swamp did not lie and the Mafia has recruited somebody that night ..that means...perhaps...the recurited only found out he is part of the mafia on the day Red died.

Which means...one of us who was part of the plan to kill Red was town when trying to kill red, but then changed to mafia so have been trying to (edit to finish this sentence) kill us while pretending to be part of the crew.

This means --- could still be the mafia. just that he wasn't the one doing the kill.

If there are 2 mafia's, lynching 1 wrong person would kill Town.

It is possible the recruited member does not know they are the mafia, however, Swamp did say 'you said they don't know their new aligntment?' or something like that. Its also possible that part was a lie and he said that to get us more paranoid.

Therefore, the mafia could have chosen the new mafia to unkowingly kill Golden/Shishoe, making the mafia godfather replacement immune to Pralines redirect.

However, if Praline didn't know then Praline could have killed Golden while redirecting the mafia.

~ I have reached quantum enlightment and I don't like it one bit~

 

[praline]

Well honestly... it has to be either Holder or White that is the last mafia.

I’m so confused...

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Here's everything he said surrounding the subject of my power.

If I find anything out, I'll tell you! I'm curious though, have you decided to jailkeep anyone yet?

I told him probably --- at the time, but I was open to suggestions.

I sent Opossum some quotes but if he denies all of them to be checked then if you don't mind, I'll ask for you to jailkeep me!

I want to make sure with you, though. Since it is your choice to jailkeep me, I feel like you should know the alternatives.

And not only that, I could track someone and get a list of people they PM'd during the night.

So I'm just checking in with you, since being jailkeeped would roleblock me and I'd feel like I'm hiding information from you if I accept but don't say what I couldn't do, is it worth using either of my abilities tonight? Since the first two quotes might be useless if praline's plan really does kill ---, but the last may be useful and tracking someone could be too.

Since I've been talking to Pokechu he has been pretty concerned with where my will lies in all of this, so I'm doubtful of foul play from him personally.

 

[Wolfie557]

y'all can kill me but town would probbaly lose then.

So don't lynch me.

Holder did what Pokechu told him to. Holder could have agreed because he wanted Golden dead anyway because priorities are bigger.
Pokechu wanted protection (while being roleblocked, meaning he cannot kill, i think)
But Pokechu and Holder could be mafia with Holder pretending to block Pokechu while Pokechus original ability isn't that useful to mafia and can't confirm much. Can't confirm if he pretended. Edit: pretending to be roleblocked is easy and gives Pokechu an excuse not to reveal anything he foud out. /edit

Praline supposedly redirected --- onto himself. He might have not. Meaning he is mafia and explains why --- / praline can kill.
--- is mafia because reasons I can't recall at 2am.

I cannot link praline or --- into a possibility with pokechu or holder atm.

**** maybe I deserve this torture instead of dying quickly. :@

.............
@--- who dies when you get lynched? first person voting you, the last, whoeve you decide, random, something else?

I'm legit considering suicide and having oppo kill me for breaking the rules. But that would make things worse.

Theres still a chance...1 in 5. 1 in 5 chance we kill a Mafia. If theres another out there, we dont win but buy some time and can also afford another loss.

4 in 5 or 3 in 5 chance we kill a townie and we lose or not.

ugh. JUGIHJJKHIHJ.

 

[praline]

Is it possible that - - - or (potentially) pokechu are mafia with an ability that lets them kill a target even if blocked in any way?

 

[Wolfie557]

Is it possible that - - - or (potentially) pokechu are mafia with an ability that lets them kill a target even if blocked in any way?

I have not found anything like this on mafiascum wiki. I will research the mafia roles closely. Oppo could have made this up to experiment but its doubtful.

 

[praline]

I have not found anything like this on mafiascum wiki. I will research the mafia roles closely. Oppo could have made this up to experiment but its doubtful.

- - - could still be a mafia. I read up about the strongman. They ignore roleblocks so he could have still killed despite me redirecting his ability back at him.

 

[praline]

Pokechu could also be mafia, just saying.

Pokechu if you’re actually town, and I’m just paranoid I am sorry.

 

[Wolfie557]

- - - could still be a mafia. I read up about the strongman. They ignore roleblocks so he could have still killed despite me redirecting his ability back at him.

Just read this too. Strongman is an uncommon role that can kill and is immune to blocks. Many roles in this game were pretty uncommon. ****. So:

Praline is town and used redirect on --- but failed:

• --- is mafia and performed a kill
• --- did not perform a kill because bomb didnt set off.

Praline is town and redirect worked

• --- is mafia, can't kill.
• --- is mafia, someone. Holder/pokechu does the kill
• --- is not mafia.

Praline is not town and used redirect

• could have used redirect anyone
• praline does the kill
• praline does not kill

Holder is town and used block on Pokechu but failed:

• Pokechu performed a kill.
• Pokechu is town, didn't do anything thinking he is blocked. Pokechu did you tell Oppo anything incase you were in fact, not blocked?
• Pokechu is town, performed his roles.

Holder is town and used a block on Pokechu. It worked:

• Pokechu is mafia strongman, kills anyway and has excuse to not reveal anything.
• Pokechu isn't, gets blocked.

Holder is not town and did not block,

• pokechu is town and didnt use his ability thinking he is blocked.
• pokechu is mafia and used his ability but won't reveal it because they are working together now.
• Pokechu perfoms the kill, or does not.
• Holder performs the kill. Meaning he is the strongman...immune to blocks but can block?!

• If Praline is town we should test this...if we have another night.
• If he isn't he can lie about the test results.

However, recruited are probbaly not the strongman. The strongman probbaly has been out there all this time.
However, if there is a strongman, who was the mafia recruiter?

Praline / Holder lied about who/if they blocked.

• all my brain cells committed suicide.

....
Most of my doubts turned out wrong. (golden shiny zebei ) Most of my suspicions turned out right. (red, swamp) I will go with who I suspect.


...
Im gonna lose 2 mafia games in a row

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Holder did what Pokechu told him to. Holder could have agreed because he wanted Golden dead anyway because priorities are bigger.
Pokechu wanted protection (while being roleblocked, meaning he cannot kill, i think)
But Pokechu and Holder could be mafia with Holder pretending to block Pokechu while Pokechus original ability isn't that useful to mafia and can't confirm much. Can't confirm if he pretended. Edit: pretending to be roleblocked is easy and gives Pokechu an excuse not to reveal anything he foud out. /edit

So you're saying the conversation I posted was a fake that Pokechu created for me to share? That would be quite the impressive intrigue.

I targeted him, but you're right I can't prove it.

And this only holds up if the recruitment thing from Swamp was real. Believing the word of scum is never a good idea, but I do admit that it helps explain our confusion and I suppose that the character Bruno could be stretched flavor wise to explain possession.

Would Opossum really do this though? Recruitment on its own is incredibly hard to balance and typically it is only present when the mafia starts out short handed. But if we say NGS is mafia, which seems to plainly be the case, they had four and could get a fifth. That is nuts. If there even is recruitment, there can only be the recruited member left, and that would mean NGS somehow wasn't mafia and was hidden to create doubt with Aurane.

@--- who dies when you get lynched? first person voting you, the last, whoeve you decide, random, something else?[/quote]

Pretty sure he said it doesn't work during the Day but only at Night.

I'm legit considering suicide and having oppo kill me for breaking the rules.

NO. No one do something like this. Unless you are mafia then please. Two people just died, we don't need to pile on more dead bodies.

 

[praline]

Man I bet whoever is the last mafia is reading this thread like:

 

[Pokechu]

Pokechu could also be mafia, just saying.

Pokechu if you’re actually town, and I’m just paranoid I am sorry.

There's no need to be sorry. It's completely logical why you all would be suspicious of the player who can't necessarily prove his own role. I'd honestly be suspicious of myself too if I were in your shoes.

If it helps, if I was mafia why would I even bother with my quote ability? I'm assuming that you guys have a suspicion that I'm mafia and my quote ability isn't my real ability, but if that's the case, why would I bother mentioning the results of a quote I checked as early as day 2? In fact, why would I even bother trying to defend praline, a townie, if I was mafia?

I won't lie that I've been silent, I've been a tad busy. But I'm back in the game now

Anyways I saw that people were voting Praline, but don't vote her. My ability confirmed she's a townie. I'm not ready to out myself/my ability yet but I honestly don't think it'd change much since my ability is really quirky. I was lucky when I found out I could use it in this way and I doubt I'd be able to use it like that again this game.

And if you guys think I'm a mafia with a lie detector ability, and a tracking ability, that'd be pretty decked out, especially since the two mafias who have died (red and swamp) both had limited abilities; red could roleblock just twice and swamp could forge and hide the body just once each. Would be unbalanced to have a scum with not one but two lasting abilities.

Wolfie557 if it helps, even though I was aware Holder was jailing me, I still attempted to use my tracking ability on ---.