Fire Emblem Heroes Mafia - Endgame - MAFIA VICTORY

[Wolfie557]

I leave for ten minutes and now the world wants me.

Well ****.

Ya'll were REALLY freaking stupid for letting me live this long.

But if you thought this was over...

Think again.

Last night we mafia members made a little adjustment to one of your alignments.

Ya'll ever heard about recruitment?

As of right now, there are actually three mafia members (two with my death).

Not one like you guys thought.

Sure you bought a day, but full disclosure, I think we already won.

See ya in the role PM suckers.

Also Erika is really hard to spell.

Oh ffs recruitment darn it oppo.

Edit:one where it's a secret you are mafia now? Damn....

I may have planned my own recruitment thingy but not like this

 

[Holder of the Heel]

oh my god

...

I give up on this game.

 

[Deleted member]

I leave for ten minutes and now the world wants me.

Well ****.

Ya'll were REALLY freaking stupid for letting me live this long.

But if you thought this was over...

Think again.

Last night we mafia members made a little adjustment to one of your alignments.

Ya'll ever heard about recruitment?

As of right now, there are actually three mafia members (two with my death).

Not one like you guys thought.

Sure you bought a day, but full disclosure, I think we already won.

See ya in the role PM suckers.

Also Erika is really hard to spell.

Inb4 it turns out to be a tie and Swamp gave this out like nothing.

Also, good luck with those empty threats, there is literally no reason to believe them.

YOU HAVE BEEN AVENGED @Apollo Justice

 

[praline]

I always knew Swampy was mafia

 

[Wolfie557]

I always knew Swampy was mafia

Always had a paranoia but the way I play means he was always low priority

And --- it would have helped if you didn't keep your role a secret last night

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Hey if ya don't believe me...

Do you honestly think today is the last day?

 

[praline]

Hey if ya don't believe me...

Do you honestly think today is the last day?

Hey... spoilers!

 

[Deleted member]

Hey if ya don't believe me...

Do you honestly think today is the last day?

We already suspected there being two mafias left, what I don't believe is this recruitment thing. "There's a traitor guys" is the most laughable way to try to stir panic into us

 

[Opossum]

There will now be a tiebreaker phase. You may only pick between Swamp and Tri. All votes for Swamp and Tri submitted previously are now locked. You have until the top of the hour to have the final two people submit their votes.

 

[Pokechu]

oh my god

I don't think it'd be fair at all to recruit mafia, especially if the victims aren't even aware of it, and especially if the townies can't do the same.

But if Swamp is telling the truth....

oh my god

 

[Deleted member]

Welp, you guys know what to do

 

[praline]

Well pokechu and - - - just vote Swampy.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

oh my god

I don't think it'd be fair at all to recruit mafia, especially if the victims aren't even aware of it, and especially if the townies can't do the same.

But if Swamp is telling the truth....

oh my god

That's been a mechanic for a long time.

Go ahead.

@---
Holder of the Heel
@GoldenYuiitusin

You've all played mafia games with recruiters.

Go ahead and tell them that the role is a real one.

 

[Opossum]

Pokechu and @--- are the only ones currently eligible to vote. Pick between --- and Swamp.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Also who said the victim wasn't aware of it?

 

[Wolfie557]

Pokechu and @--- are the only ones currently eligible to vote. Pick between --- and Swamp.

Can we please end the phase as soon as they vote I wanna go sleep

 

[praline]

Also who said the victim wasn't aware of it?

Well then I’m still a townie.

 

[Deleted member]

Guys, there's literally no reason to announce the existence of a traitor unless it's a bluff.
If it's true, they'd have a better advantage by just keeping the person hidden. We only have the word of a scum on this, why should we trust him?
Yes, traitors and recruitments are a thing(yeah, I'm a mafia pro, i read, like, 25 MafiaScum wiki pages) but it's not something you'd announce to the public.

 

[Wolfie557]

Idc just vote.

The only way I see this recruitment happening is if mafia started with 2 members. But. Recruiting basically every night is so overpowered.

 

[praline]

FFS guys get in here already.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Guys, there's literally no reason to announce the existence of a traitor unless it's a bluff.
If it's true, they'd have a better advantage by just keeping the person hidden. We only have the word of a scum on this, why should we trust him?
Yes, traitors and recruitments are a thing(yeah, I'm a mafia pro, i read, like, 25 MafiaScum wiki pages) but it's not something you'd announce to the public.

Maybe I'm just that confident in the win?

And maybe you should tell the truth that we figured out a long time ago.

You're third party, but you ain't a fool Shishoe.

I'm calling you out finally. Why don't you tell us what those onions rings REALLY do?

Idc just vote.

The only way I see this recruitment happening is if mafia started with 2 members. But. Recruiting basically every night is so overpowered.

Oh please we only get one shot per game.

 

[Wolfie557]

Maybe I'm just that confident in the win?

And maybe you should tell the truth that we figured out a long time ago.

You're third party, but you ain't a fool Shishoe.

I'm calling you out finally. Why don't you tell us what those onions rings REALLY do?


Oh please we only get one shot per game.

Fair enough.

Night

 

[Pokechu]

So you all think I should vote to lynch Swamp? I can't mess up here, I need to make sure before I do anything

What if they recruited Tri??? And Swamp gains nothing from lying about all this but IDK this is so much to take in for a first mafia game

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe I'm just that confident in the win?

And maybe you should tell the truth that we figured out a long time ago.

You're third party, but you ain't a fool Shishoe.

I'm calling you out finally. Why don't you tell us what those onions rings REALLY do?

Lol you're not even trying at this point. Bluffing won't get you anywhere.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Lol you're not even trying at this point. Bluffing won't get you anywhere.

Hey.

You already lied to the thread once.

And I can prove it.

 

[praline]

So you all think I should vote to lynch Swamp? I can't mess up here, I need to make sure before I do anything

What if they recruited Tri??? And Swamp gains nothing from lying about all this but IDK this is so much to take in for a first mafia game

Just pick one. Jfc

 

[Deleted member]

Hey.

You already lied to the thread once.

And I can prove it.

Oh man, prove it, will you? I really want a reason for them to lynch me

 

[Wolfie557]

Oh man, prove it, will you? I really want a reason for them to lynch me

Can you 2 make a tie and kill them both.

Even if he is telling the truth .

So what.

We should still kill them both. I think.

My brain cannot comprehend the number of mafia and town for every possibility. Like if --- is town and swamp mafia and they recruited we should still be okay. Just the game will continue.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Oh man, prove it, will you? I really want a reason for them to lynch me

Maybe they do something, maybe they don't.
Maybe they leave trails of where you were, maybe they don't.

You don't have this role.

And if you were trying to cover for a certain someone.

They don't have it either.

 

[praline]

Me wanting pokechu and Tri to get their asses in here and vote.

 

[Pokechu]

Can you 2 make a tie and kill them both.

Even if he is telling the truth .

So what.

We should till kill them both.

This is why I'm waiting so long. If I vote Tri he can only vote Swamp which would kill them both or vote himself which would kill him. If I vote Swamp then we can't get Tri out.

 

[praline]

This is why I'm waiting so long. If I vote Tri he can only vote Swamp which would kill them both or vote himself which would kill him. If I vote Swamp then we can't get Tri out.

Just vote for someone ok?

 

[Wolfie557]

This is why I'm waiting so long. If I vote Tri he can only vote Swamp which would kill them both or vote himself which would kill him. If I vote Swamp then we can't get Tri out.

Well goodluck, however long it takes

Golden you better not have shipped me with anyone. I'm happy single. Thx.

 

[Deleted member]

You don't have this role.

And if you were trying to cover for a certain someone.

They don't have it either.

I never lied, I said "maybe they do, maybe they don't". I was just messing with you guys.
If the town really wants to lynch me tomorrow because of you, then by all means, do it. Guess that would mean a mafia victory though.

Oh wait, I get what you're trying to do! You want me to cooperate with you and make myself look suspicious because that'd mean a mafia victory! Well, while your logic makes sense when dealing with a fool, I've made myself clear in that I find it a pretty lame role.
Besides, I made a promise to Apollo, and I'm not one to betray someone's trust in me.

Now be a good scum and place yourself in Virion's range, will you?

 

[Deleted member]

Let me get this straight. I was right. I was ****in' right. SUCK IT!

 

[Deleted member]

You guys remember that post I said I made? No, well, here it is anyways for fun, I wrote it during Night 2 btw

Spoiler

Music, please.

Apollo died in the middle of the night, and I know who did it. He had checked Swamp on the first night and it got him a Suspicious result. This didn't add up, however, due to the fact his Ephraim claim was confirmed by Eirika's body on that very same day.
Last night, he was going to use Nidhogg on a PM group of 4 users(@Zebei should be able to confirm this, he talked with him too) that included Swamp to figure out what had happened, because Apollo believed in Swamp's Ephraim claim and thought his role power had been messed with by some other user somehow(because there's no way a Town-alligned Ephraim would give a Suspicious result). Yet, he's dead now, and he died in the middle of the night too, probably because he figured something out and had to be silenced as soon as possible.

So, you now all have to ask yourselves: what are the chances that someone who got a Suspicious result from the Cop check would claim Ephraim in the night right before Eirika, the only other role that can prove his role's own existence, died?
The answer is: none at all. Why? Because there is no Ephraim or Eirika at all! Z25's role PM was forged by the Horse Emblem scum and I can prove it!

You are Innes of Frelia! You're a bit arrogant, sure, but you have the skill to back it up. Of course, your rivalry with Ephraim is likely the thing most know about you. Ephraim may not be here, but as a sniper, your discerning eye is unparalleled. You can even pick out who seems suspicious!


Skills:

- Each night, you may send me a PM saying "Check:User." I will respond at the end of the night with either Clean or Suspicious.

- Once per game, instead of a standard check, you can utilize your bow, Nidhogg, to scan a PM that you're a part of (it can include no more than three other players). After, I will tell you how many of them are Clean or Suspicious, though you won't know who is who. Just send me a PM saying "Nidhogg:[Name of Group PM]"

You are Micaiah of the Dawn Brigade! A silver haired maiden with an air of mystery, you are blessed with a spell known as Sacrifice...you can even use it to bring back the dead!


Skills:

- Once per game, you may send me a PM saying "Revive:User" in order to bring them back from the dead.

- Once per game, you may also send me a PM saying "Flee." This will protect you for the night, but also make your vote not count the next day.

- You come up as Clean on an alignment check.

You are Erika, the princess of Renais and the twin sister to Ephraim. Though you and your brother's release was met with fanfare, people have lost much of their excitement around you. You are ready to fight against the forces of Horse Emblem.


- Once a night, you will be able to check to see if a user if Ephraim. If it is, you automatically give someone a gift. This gift will be useless to everyone else and they will not be notified they received it. If you give this gift to Ephraim, he will receive a one time bulletproof, one time double vote and one night kill.

-Once you have found Ephraim, you will be in contact with him at all times through a PM.

-You will only be able to seek out four individuals at night. You will be able to continue conversations with all who PM you however.

-Speaking of this role during the day will make both you and your brother's role useless.

Look at the PMs we all have access to, one of these doesn't belong here, it's way too inconsistent with the others.
Exhibit A: Flavor Text

You are Innes of Frelia! You're a bit arrogant, sure, but you have the skill to back it up. Of course, your rivalry with Ephraim is likely the thing most know about you. Ephraim may not be here, but as a sniper, your discerning eye is unparalleled. You can even pick out who seems suspicious!

Talks about his character and hints at his role.

You are Micaiah of the Dawn Brigade! A silver haired maiden with an air of mystery, you are blessed with a spell known as Sacrifice...you can even use it to bring back the dead!

Talks about her character and hints at her role.

You are Erika, the princess of Renais and the twin sister to Ephraim. Though you and your brother's release was met with fanfare, people have lost much of their excitement around you. You are ready to fight against the forces of Horse Emblem.

Brief mention of her character and then cuts to her release in Heroes. Is the only one to mention being "ready to fight against Horse Emblem". No hints to her role.

Exhibit B: Skills Section

Skills:

- Each night, you may send me a PM saying "Check:User." I will respond at the end of the night with either Clean or Suspicious.

- Once per game, instead of a standard check, you can utilize your bow, Nidhogg, to scan a PM that you're a part of (it can include no more than three other players). After, I will tell you how many of them are Clean or Suspicious, though you won't know who is who. Just send me a PM saying "Nidhogg:[Name of Group PM]"

Preceded by "Skills". Explanation on how to target an user alongside an example. No mention on how they come up when checked BECAUSE he's the Cop.

Skills:

- Once per game, you may send me a PM saying "Revive:User" in order to bring them back from the dead.

- Once per game, you may also send me a PM saying "Flee." This will protect you for the night, but also make your vote not count the next day.

- You come up as Clean on an alignment check.

Preceded by "Skills". Explanation on how to target an user alongside an example. Mention of how she comes up when checked by the Cop.

- Once a night, you will be able to check to see if a user if Ephraim. If it is, you automatically give someone a gift. This gift will be useless to everyone else and they will not be notified they received it. If you give this gift to Ephraim, he will receive a one time bulletproof, one time double vote and one night kill.

-Once you have found Ephraim, you will be in contact with him at all times through a PM.

-You will only be able to seek out four individuals at night. You will be able to continue conversations with all who PM you however.

-Speaking of this role during the day will make both you and your brother's role useless.

Not preceded by "Skills". No explanation on how to "check if someone is Ephraim" and no example provided. Does not say what she comes up as when checked by the Cop.
"if a user if Ephraim" "If it is, you automatically give someone a gift."
Grammatical errors and weird phrasing.l not found in any other PMs.
Also, the weirdly specific rule of not being able to talk about their roles during the day despite there being no reason for it.


With all that said, I can only conclude that (music, please)

Swamp is part of the mafia and they forged Eirika's death so he could "prove" his alignment to the Town. When Apollo tried to figure out if Swamp was truly "Suspicious", he was struck by lighting magic to hide the evidence. If Eirika's role PM is fake then there's no way Swamp's claim is real!

Vote: Swamp

You can choose to believe me or not, but the loss will be heavier on your side. My goal is death and I do not fear the mafia and its Horse buffs, so if my fate is to be killed this night, then so be it, but bring Swamp to justice! Not only for Apollo's death, but also for lying to this town and those who trusted him!

 

[Pokechu]

Well, I have 24 minutes left. And I didn't tie Shiny to Red instead of --- to Red to just lynch him now. I didn't cause this tie to save --- to just lynch him now. And considering how --- may be at work, may be asleep for all we know, if he doesn't vote Swamp would get away. And if I don't vote at all, --- might be an innocent townie and we need all the townies we can get.

Sorry for taking so long to realize this.

Vote: Swampasaur

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Let me get this straight. I was right. I was ****in' right. SUCK IT!

Yeah.

But you never did anything about it til like day four.

So...

Besides, I made a promise to Apollo, and I'm not one to betray someone's trust in me.

Pffft.

That's funny.

He didn't trust you one bit when he talked to me.


That said, the mental gymnastics you have are astounding.

Ya'll got skeletons in your closet. I wanna get them out.

I also know Golden hasn't been telling you guys everything as well.

Ey bud.

What happened to that Night 2 role?

 

[Wolfie557]

I'm ignoring everything swamp is saying.
*Muted*

Let me get this straight. I was right. I was ****in' right. SUCK IT!

I was right with red and ina longshot swamp but I'd gladly suck it

You guys remember that post I said I made? No, well, here it is anyways for fun, I wrote it during Night 2 btw

Spoiler

Music, please.

Apollo died in the middle of the night, and I know who did it. He had checked Swamp on the first night and it got him a Suspicious result. This didn't add up, however, due to the fact his Ephraim claim was confirmed by Eirika's body on that very same day.
Last night, he was going to use Nidhogg on a PM group of 4 users(@Zebei should be able to confirm this, he talked with him too) that included Swamp to figure out what had happened, because Apollo believed in Swamp's Ephraim claim and thought his role power had been messed with by some other user somehow(because there's no way a Town-alligned Ephraim would give a Suspicious result). Yet, he's dead now, and he died in the middle of the night too, probably because he figured something out and had to be silenced as soon as possible.

So, you now all have to ask yourselves: what are the chances that someone who got a Suspicious result from the Cop check would claim Ephraim in the night right before Eirika, the only other role that can prove his role's own existence, died?
The answer is: none at all. Why? Because there is no Ephraim or Eirika at all! Z25's role PM was forged by the Horse Emblem scum and I can prove it!





Look at the PMs we all have access to, one of these doesn't belong here, it's way too inconsistent with the others.
Exhibit A: Flavor Text

Talks about his character and hints at his role.

Talks about her character and hints at her role.

Brief mention of her character and then cuts to her release in Heroes. Is the only one to mention being "ready to fight against Horse Emblem". No hints to her role.

Exhibit B: Skills Section

Preceded by "Skills". Explanation on how to target an user alongside an example. No mention on how they come up when checked BECAUSE he's the Cop.

Preceded by "Skills". Explanation on how to target an user alongside an example. Mention of how she comes up when checked by the Cop.

Not preceded by "Skills". No explanation on how to "check if someone is Ephraim" and no example provided. Does not say what she comes up as when checked by the Cop.
"if a user if Ephraim" "If it is, you automatically give someone a gift."
Grammatical errors and weird phrasing.l not found in any other PMs.
Also, the weirdly specific rule of not being able to talk about their roles during the day despite there being no reason for it.


With all that said, I can only conclude that (music, please)

Swamp is part of the mafia and they forged Eirika's death so he could "prove" his alignment to the Town. When Apollo tried to figure out if Swamp was truly "Suspicious", he was struck by lighting magic to hide the evidence. If Eirika's role PM is fake then there's no way Swamp's claim is real!

Vote: Swamp

You can choose to believe me or not, but the loss will be heavier on your side. My goal is death and I do not fear the mafia and its Horse buffs, so if my fate is to be killed this night, then so be it, but bring Swamp to justice! Not only for Apollo's death, but also for lying to this town and those who trusted him!

How did I miss such a long post lmao

 

[praline]

Now I wish Golden linked Swamp to Red.