That would imply I knew no one would follow with my push, which is not something a person can predict unless the points are wrong.
this is definitely not true. having played mafia for a while now, i KNOW when key players like laundry are going to be a giant pain in the ass to push over in order to get a lynch. i'll admit to this but i knew i wasn't going to be able to get your lynch D3, but EVERYONE was ignoring you when i felt people needed to give you attention.
I already have given stances on both yours and Rosa's slots, and that I find both scummy. I didn't repeat those today but nothing changed.
you did not give a clear, concise lean between myself and rosalina. you basically stated that you felt you were the least scummy of us which doesn't actually leave any kind of impression on which path you want to take in LyLo. this is called keeping your options open. not to mention that multiple people died and flipped since your stances were made prior, that's a pretty big change.
I explained why I didn't want to make a push until after Rosa had posted. I did it specifically because you asked. I'll point out that you haven't given a stance either, outside of "either or", which I think is something we're all thinking.
this is also not true. i stated, while coming right out the gate, that i was leaning towards rosalina as scum. i DID say i was going to be reserved about it and hear both sides beforehand though. however a lean is still there. it is literally my second post of this day phase dude.
He could have RB'd the person he was killing.
Explain this because I do not understand how you came to this conclusion.
what????? why would he do that? that makes no sense at all for scum to do this considering the open set up. if he targets the doc with a kill and a roleblock, he achieves nothing with the roleblock because the doc doesn't save anyone anyway if he is targeted. same with targeting the tracker with both abilities because the tracker won't be able to talk about his results anyway since he is dead. UNLESS scum was taking a REALLY sub optimal approach to trying to nail the tracker in the fear that maybe the tracker would get protected. but even if this was the case, we know orbo didn't do this because he would have been seen visiting orbo
twice, not just once.
that being said, here's my theory. hypothetically, if orbo chooses to kill one slot and roleblock another slot, and he happens to get tracked, he essentially
soft clears the slot he roleblocked. imagine if ruy had picked up someone getting RB'd by orbo, it would pretty much **** all over scum because they've inadvertently pointed at someone and said 'this is someone we're worried about.'
i'm also wondering if there's something else at play we don't know about, like maybe the roleblocker informs his target if they were RB'd or not, but i have no idea.
anyway, this leads me to believe that orbo was essentially expendable. given that kursed was playing the way he was, i just can't shake the feeling that they weren't concerned for his safety. not to mention orbo was the slot that submitted the kill on N2 if i remember correctly.
i don't know, you tell me. why else would orbo not target anyone with his roleblock? why wasn't he expendable?
I was originally 40% Ros, 30% Bard, 30% undecided. Now it's more 50% Bard, 25% Rosa, 25% undecided. Bard just seems to be trying to push for my lynch when he really, really has zero good reasons to be thinking I'm scummier then Rosa, yet in his approach to Rosa he never once asks her questions but only tries to convince her that I'm mafia.
riddle me this maven. why would i, as scum, go for your slot for the lynch, when rosalina's play throughout the game can be considered pretty sus considering rosa's complete lack of interactions with kursed? rosalina put kursed on the backburner the
entire game and has jumped on board with some easy lynches, which can be easily construed as safe scum play. i kid you not when i say that rosalina would be an EASY lynch for me to push at this juncture of the game as scum. however i am actually
not doing this, rather i am testing the waters with both of your slots. so you tell me, if i'm scum, what's my MO?
The only question he asked was about me being town and about why I'm scummy. I do not believe Bard has been trying to actually figure out who is scum but has only been trying to convince Rosa to lynch me, once Rosa posted he doesn't even seem to consider the idea that Rosa could be scum. He then insists that I don't vote if Bard and Rosa vote each other, which just implies heavily to me that if he was town he'd think I was mafia. Again, not even considering the idea that Rosa is scum, and he's been mentioning that was leaning towards Rosa being scummier, yet none of his posts reflect that.
i asked more than this, and it wasn't to implicate you. rather, i was trying to gauge rosalina's perception and why she jumped to the conclusions that she did. did you read my paragraph of questions?
let's be fair here, you haven't necessarily been gauging rosalina's intent. one thing that i'm curious about is why you haven't touched on rosalina's pretty quick flip once i asked rose those questions. i intentionally didn't mention anything to see how you'd react to it, so why didn't you?
And then Bard tries to suggest that I'm the caliber of player to push my own team mate, but really Bardull, what are you getting that from? The only game I remember playing with you in was Lovers and I was just pure crap there, so where is this idea coming from?
we've played more games than that together actually. in one game i remember you being the traitor as my mate and you actually handled yourself pretty well and distanced from me, i have no idea why or how you got shot honestly lol. i've read some other games with you in them and i generally agree with your pushes and how you play.
For all extents and purposes I'm voting Bardull, unless something changes. I do not believe any of his pushes against me. I don't think he believes them himself. Sorry if I rubbed anyone with my "I'm town", but I'll point out that I'm very aware I could be lynched today, and wanted to put my defense up there before anyone else tried to bum rush my slot with garbage pushes. I'm normally very cautious in these games when it comes to lynching, but I'm not cautious when it comes to defending myself.
if you are town then you are going to lose the game for us LOL, but if you are scum then you already lost. that is all i can say to this. i'd prefer to see you gauge both my intent and rosalina's more though before making your vote.
