Fire and Lightning Mafia 3: New Mods vs Old Mods! - Game Over New Mods win!

[#HBC | Nabe]

Hmmm. I'm not sure who to pick between Toxic-chan and Pokechu.

Ehmm. Hrm. Uhm.

Which one of you is a bad guy?! Which one will pay more for me to uncap you?! >:^)

Tbh I don't think it's particularly cool of Toxic to go "I'm better than you, therefore I should live." I don't even mean scum/town behavior, I just mean general gameplay.

If you're doing this as part of a "toxic behavior" character, it's going to wear thin quick. Also if it was meant as a joke instead of a serious statement, it was a lame joke.


That being said, Toxic has some valid points about Zeke, and I'd like to see Zeke respond.

Honestly we have some garbage read info for D1, but the incap + lynch flip will add some much needed context. Right now the incap is just a massive pile of WIFOM.

This attitude is no good. Scum has no way to kill Toxic outright, unless both factions incap Toxic, in which case it's the same result as letting the D1 incap go through -- the slot flips and we get to the same place. If one of two factions, or zero factions, target Toxic, then we get at least a result claim prior to death. Scum will not necessarily jump right to killing Toxic. Saying to not keep Toxic over Pokechu after the claim is very questionable.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I can't believe I'm already posting a retraction, I see now that those posts were before the claim.

 

[Tom]

i really do not think it can be best to let the cop die

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I have not spoken to my other half here on this, but I personally am fine with keeping my uncap on Pokechu and voting for someone besides Toxic to lynch.

I do not believe in giving Toxic a free pass just because they are a Cop.


However, I am open to rethinking that if the offending half of Toxic (whichever it was) drops and allows the other player to continue un-hydra'd.

Un-retracting half of my retraction.

 

[Tom]

that should both answer LVW's question as much as necessary and also tell anyone who still can to uncap toxic

i do not understand fireemblemier's uncap of pokechu, nor shish's. i understand zeke's as zeke has been in toxic's sights d1.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Is it worth uncapping Toxic if they are going to most likely die the next phase?

Scummy. I think you know better than that.

 

[Lady von Whippingberg]

Kary's attitude against me wanting a mod kill for a ridiculous rule break is awful, and it reeks of "omg I'm the cop" entitlement.

If we are going to let people slide just because they are a power role, then I'm posting ****ing screenshots of role pm next time I have a PR. (I'm not going to, I'm exaggerating)

I also clearly said that "if the player at fault drops from the hydra, then I'm cool with it re: the rules" but whatever.

i really do not think it can be best to let the cop die

The cop is dying whether they die today or toNight. We have no doctor or protective role. The choice is between 2 dead going into D3 (with two in caps again) or 3 incaps.

It's a ****ty situation, but it's how the game logic is going right now.

 

[Lady von Whippingberg]

*2 dead going into D2, not D3.

 

[Tom]

no

you are basically saying the town should lynch the claimed cop over a probable-townie
you are also basically saying that the town should do the mafia's job

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Sus Shish for the same reasons. Maybe there's a difference in playstyles re: NZone, but saving Chu over Toxic is bananas.

I’m going to go ahead and uncap: Toxic in the hopes that one of the mafia factions is silly enough to not target them tonight, a good chunk of people have posted since they claimed and there’s been no counter claim so I think they’re telling the truth.

Also Vote: Zeke in the effort to avoid an alpha on our cop.

Pinned for toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Suspicious of Pythag whose style seems to be a lot of just saying things. S SCUM you should pick Pythag / Whip if they're not on your team.

 

[Tom]

@nabe: from my perspective, pythag is town because i am town and the cop said we're same alignment. did you take this into account in your post 331?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Basically, if we have Toxic die from being capped we don't get a the Capping mechanic tomorrow. If Pokechu dies from the cap then Toxic will most likely die from being chosen by both scum teams. Is it more beneficial for town to have the capping mechanic tomorrow or only have to worry about a lynch? Personally, I think having the capping mechanic is a little more important as it allows us to draw more connections based on who is chosen by the scum teams.

No. That's two scum NKs for free, even if it works out how you think.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@nabe: from my perspective, pythag is town because i am town and the cop said we're same alignment. did you take this into account in your post 331?

I didn't see that the cop had claimed a target, no.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Honestly if you're a cop, I dont understand why you went so hard after me. Dunno if it was the joke or an explanation that I made that was not satisfactory.

it's better to lynch someone than not. you happen to be someone.

Kary's attitude against me wanting a mod kill for a ridiculous rule break is awful, and it reeks of "omg I'm the cop" entitlement.

I find it hard to picture a world where you're town and you really want your life to be made more difficult because of someone else's mistake.

My sense of entitlement has nothing to do with my role, but thanks.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Anyways, shouldn't it be deadline already?

Smell you later!

 

[Lady von Whippingberg]

no

you are basically saying the town should lynch the claimed cop over a probable-townie
you are also basically saying that the town should do the mafia's job

I'm saying we should incap the claimed cop over a probable Townie, not lynch. I don't understand your "doing the mafia's job" point, especially with the logic already presented.

I find it hard to picture a world where you're town and you really want your life to be made more difficult because of someone else's mistake.

My sense of entitlement has nothing to do with my role, but thanks.

Nah I just want the rules to actually be respected and to not have miserable games.

 

[Wright & Co. Law Offices]

I'm not sure if we should spell it out any further than it has been spelled out? It shouldn't have been spelled out in the first place; it takes two to tango.

Some of the responses to the incap target have me bamboozled.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ok flip time

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I’m going to go ahead and uncap: Toxic in the hopes that one of the mafia factions is silly enough to not target them tonight, a good chunk of people have posted since they claimed and there’s been no counter claim so I think they’re telling the truth.

Also Vote: Zeke in the effort to avoid an alpha on our cop.

Zeke was hammered as of this post.

Pokechu had majority to live and will be uncapped.

Vote Count:
(1) Pokechu: Shish
(1) Lady von whippingberg: Fire Emblemier,
(2) Wright & Co. Law Offices: Lady von whippingberg, Shish
(1) Fire Emblemier: Tom
(7) Zeke the Zekenator: Toxic Behavior, Mod, Mod, Nabe, Wright & Co. Law Offices , Shish,
(1) No Lynch: Nintendo Freak
4 Toxic Bahavior: Mod, Mod, Mod, Mod
(1) Sky_B: Zeke the Zekenator

Uncap count:
(4) Toxic: Toxic Behavior. Nabe, Wright & Co. Law Offices, giraffelasergun
(4)Pokechu: Lady von whippingberg, Tom, Pokechu, Shish,

Flips imcoming

 

[BarDulL]

Zeke was hammered as of this post.

Pokechu had majority to live and will be uncapped.

Vote Count:
(1) Pokechu: Shish
(1) Lady von whippingberg: Fire Emblemier,
(2) Wright & Co. Law Offices: Lady von whippingberg, Shish
(1) Fire Emblemier: Tom
(7) Zeke the Zekenator: Toxic Behavior, Mod, Mod, Nabe, Wright & Co. Law Offices , Shish,
(1) No Lynch: Nintendo Freak
4 Toxic Bahavior: Mod, Mod, Mod, Mod
(1) Sky_B: Zeke the Zekenator

Uncap count:
(4) Toxic: Toxic Behavior. Nabe, Wright & Co. Law Offices, giraffelasergun
(5)Pokechu: Giraffelazergun, Lady von whippingberg, Tom, Pokechu, Shish,

Flips imcoming

Wait, Ryu. Giraffe is counted twice for both uncaps.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wait, Ryu. Giraffe is counted twice for both uncaps.

True but in this case it is still Pokechu who lives since he had the higher result in the event of this tie.

 

[Wright & Co. Law Offices]

RIP.

Welp.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, that's it for me gg and good luck finishing.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

#HBC | Red Ryu hold the phone

how is tom uncapping pokechu?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

ebwop nevermind you're counting the votes as of the hammer. cool.

 

[Pokechu]

Shhhh guys just let me live I'M THE PROM QUEEN

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ebwop nevermind you're counting the votes as of the hammer. cool.

Yup this.

Anything after the hammer is ignored.

 

[Deleted member]

Yup this.

Anything after the hammer is ignored.

I can still check the thread as long as I don't post right?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I can still check the thread as long as I don't post right?

Yup I also got a green room I will be inviting the dead to.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Zeke was minding his own business when town decided he must be a mod in disguise.

Unfortunately it seems town was misguided and got the wrong guy.

Zeke the Zekenator has been lynched and flipped Vanilla Townie.

Town also decided to save Pokechu with their resources, unfortunately Toxic Behavior was not able to be saved.

Toxic Behavior did not survive and is revealed to be the Town Comparison cop, they were targeted by the New Mafia.

Deadline for actions is 5/6 2:01pm CST

I will open the thread at 8pm cst tomorrow as it is when I have access to a computer and not my phone.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

The day opens.

It seems to be that both teams have targeted Tom and thus the slot dies. Tom was a Vanilla Townie.

10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline set for 8:06 pm CST 5/8.

Pokechu
Wright & Co. Law Offices
@Nintendofreak
@Sky_B
@giraffelasergun
@Pythag
@Fire Emblemier
Lady von Whippingberg
#HBC | Nabe
@Shishœ

 

[Wright & Co. Law Offices]

Vote: GLG
FoS: Shish

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

The day opens.

It seems to be that both teams have targeted Tom and thus the slot dies.

We don't get the flip until the end of the Day?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Vote: Shish

The fact that scum was able to use their incap instead of wasting it on Toxic is due to Whip and Shish uncapping Chu. Fire supporting the Chu uncap was also a bad move from a townie. Shish is only more suspicious than FE and Whip because Shish uncapped Chu and hammered Zeke.

I don't much like Maya (208, 247) who seems intent on giving Whip credit for a series of posts that I'm not discrediting. This wouldn't entirely bother me from Z25, but 206 and 212 make 208 a post by Bard. Is Bard posting the weirdest needless defense of scummate Whip? Probably not. But it's weird reading.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Wright & Co. Law Offices

Do you think FE has or had something to defend against?

Current context is fine too.

 

[Wright & Co. Law Offices]

I responded to you already. I just didn't (still don't) get the intent behind your post tbh. I'll work with you this phase though 'cause butting heads is pointless when we both know there are more important things to address.

Why Shish over GLG who hammered? You think GLG just wasn't paying attention?

 

[Wright & Co. Law Offices]

Also, just want to mention that them posting 6 minutes within each other is highly sus. The clear uncap target was Toxic, and we knew this was going to happen if Toxic died.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I’m going to go ahead and uncap: Toxic in the hopes that one of the mafia factions is silly enough to not target them tonight, a good chunk of people have posted since they claimed and there’s been no counter claim so I think they’re telling the truth.

Also Vote: Zeke in the effort to avoid an alpha on our cop.

Did a coordinated scum effort seem likely? Granted, the cop was already dead by the time you made this post, so maybe it happened.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Oh, the vote count was wrong. GLG did hammer.