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[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Iight so like I'm said. I'm Town Paranoid Gun Owner.

I have the next 24 hours to shoot someone.

Probably going to shoot Murder or Swiss just because I can't stand the way the play. Swiss directing night actions. Generally playing anti town. Murder's reads being completely opposite from reality.

I will gladly give my life any day to take away the power that is Aggressive Mediation. You directing PRs in an all PR game, especially Don on Rake is so anti-town and scummy. Yet people will actually listen to you. I don't know why I keep joining these games. I'm so tired of people just following you and Ryker like sheep every single game. And I'm tired of Ryker just lynching me on the basis that he can't read me. I actually wanted to play this game and was actually making cases and scum hunting, but all Ryker has to do is say is

"scum scum scum scum scum"
"nope nope nope nope nope"

and people will follow him. Unless Boss doesn't get around to answering me, one of you is dying.

Seems more like he hates Ryker more than Swiss here.

Even more so Murderbush was the one spearheading the lynch so I'd buy that Zen made a spiteful shot at Murderbush. Heck posts later Swiss is defending that the Twilight lynch was bad. Murderbush just cruised on it being good.

Zen shot Murderbush.

He didn't shoot Swiss.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

It actually signifies that he shot Murder over Swiss, since they were the two candidates. That's my view point on it, anyways.

Agreed.

(This is Sokr btw)

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

so ryu what do you get from asking me that anyway ?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

never ever claim something liable to be thought of as too pro-town.

In your game i wanted to aggro soup down and be thought of as super pro town, but not someone worth killing because my knowledge didn't do anything but condemn soup. I was killed for being too townie according to john.

I also learned never to out any special info that may possibly be handed to me, and instead keep it back pocket for when i need it.

in Utrik'd on top of my claim slip up was the fact that i was one of the only remaining claimed slots alive with the ability to hurt scum. In utrik'd i used townJOAT because i couldn't come up with anything to cover up my lack of abilities and everything i claimed to be able to do was largely un-provable( i could have said i rb'd kevmo near the end and got him lynched) , i also learned to keep what i was claiming what i had done straight, as in that game i kept messing up what i said i was going to do in places. Also i learned the diff between mason and neighbors better lol.

The queen thing in Utrik'd was purely for thread control and to make sure Jyker went down because they were clear cut scum and i was dead certain bardull would end up executing them via the intent i was getting from his posts. After that ryker's reaction and my evidence on him were enough to secure his lynch.

In hindsight it might have been smarter to keep him alive so i could lynch him closer to lylo based on faked incriminating results, but eh

Talk to me on your actions this game then.

The outing and asking for Carbuncle way back when, why did you want it, what would it help you do?

Why the shot on Tyr when Soup was replacing in? Did you consider this? Did KWK come off as not a better shot?

Your vote on Murderbush? Did you consider he was shot at by Zen? What was the purpose and intent behind that vote?

Lots of questions but I'm trying to look at three things that have bugged me a bit with your actions. Also looking at what you might have changed from past games if you are an Indy, that is mostly what I'm looking at. Then from there what you are doing at this point.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Actually yeah the context implies Murder was shot and that lines up wqy better with the shot failing and Carbuncle going to Murder.

So a cleared Murdetbush? Cool.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

with murderbush cleared, technically the most townie thing to do would just shoot whoever he tells me to.
you guys agree with that ?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Rake, my post, it needs answer.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

I mean, if you really don't trust yourself to make a choice.

That and the only way for him to communicate that to you would be where scum can see so no I don't agree with that.

What happened to your huge [over]confidence in your abilities?

Unvote

Still checking with Sokr but I actually like RR's recent line of questioning on Rake. RRscum would only put that much work towards his scummate, otherwise it says to me he's town. Only thing we don't like is him using his ability but that's not indicative of alignment and I like Joey for making that observation.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

with murderbush cleared, technically the most townie thing to do would just shoot whoever he tells me to.
you guys agree with that ?

Not at all. Just because he's confirmed town doesn't mean that all his reads are accurate.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Talk to me on your actions this game then.

The outing and asking for Carbuncle way back when, why did you want it, what would it help you do?

Already addressed , had plan, didn't think it out fully.

Why the shot on Tyr when Soup was replacing in? Did you consider this? Did KWK come off as not a better shot?

Felt tyr was scummy, so i shot him, KWK was there too, i just typed in Tyra's name, that's about the sum of it. It was a wifom choice between the Tyra/Inferno/KWK and i ended up choosing Tyra to be shot. There wasn't anything beyond that.

Your vote on Murderbush? Did you consider he was shot at by Zen? What was the purpose and intent behind that vote?

Eh,i only ever really skim flavour the first time round, so i probably missed where the shot failed. That vote was mostly impulse on my part of having a hard time believing Raz wasn't aware who soup replaced in over.

Lots of questions but I'm trying to look at three things that have bugged me a bit with your actions. Also looking at what you might have changed from past games if you are an Indy, that is mostly what I'm looking at. Then from there what you are doing at this point.

Cool.

I would suggest taking a closer look at Utrik'd if you want solid Indyrake meta as there i really got to play my role and it's possibly more indicative than your game , in your game i was outed to fast to achieve all that much and i didn't play all that well.

 

[Vinylic.]

Rake, was it my fault that you shot soup because I said not to shoot ran yet?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

nah man it was my fault, i choose the target through personal wifom and it ended being the wrong choice, if i could go back in time i would but hey there's nothing to be done about it . I also don't remember Ran being in consideration regardless.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Gonna go read Utricked + Disney tonight.

but before that I got Death Bear business to attend to.

Vinyl I asked who you want dead the most right now, please answer that.

 

[Vinylic.]

Yeah, I already said I was fine KWK being lynched today.

 

[Vinylic.]

And no, I'm not going to go out on why just yet as I'm still reading his slot.

 

[Inferno3044]

Would you please explain why.

Right now we don't know if Rake is actually a vig or if he is an indy. If he's a vig, then him being gone makes it so that his power is useless. If he's an indy, then we just have more trouble catching him because he isn't posting or doing anything. His slot is also very questionable which is not good to have mysteriously vanish until D4.

This implies that TS shot at Swiss with his vengeful shot.

The end-of-day flavour clearly described TS making a shot and having it fail.

This doesn't at all imply that Swiss got shot. I saw it as that he had faith that Swiss was town and would lead us to victory. I think by his actions it would've been very obvious that he intended to shoot Murderbush.

with murderbush cleared, technically the most townie thing to do would just shoot whoever he tells me to.
you guys agree with that ?

I completely disagree with this. Town =/= right and I don't want you to use "murderbush told me so" as an excuse for future shots.

 

[Swiss]

Swiss, if Ryu honestly didn't know what the GF does then I see more merit is scum releasing it earlier.

I know what you'll say when I ask why and I agree. But my prior point does still stand.

 

[Swiss]

Swiss how confident is your town read on Rake?

Have I been unclear in this?

Purpose of this question?

Confident.

 

[Swiss]

I knew it was gonna be Diablo because I've played FF8 before, I did not know what he was going to do, I had guesses mostly under how it falls under the Time and Space magic he is. I wasn't expecting that.

I released it because reads were more solidified at that point, to me they are I've got a clear town and scum list.

You repeatedly asked me when to release it, then go and do so without my permission whilst having a town read on me...?

 

[Swiss]

This implies that TS shot at Swiss with his vengeful shot.

The end-of-day flavour clearly described TS making a shot and having it fail.

wtf is this

 

[Swiss]

Rake, since you're here and are making amusing attempts to appear good - analyse these recent posts and tell me what your conclusions are.

Answer this.

 

[Swiss]

@ KWK why FoS me and not vote?

What did the FoS achieve?

 

[Swiss]

Agreed.

(This is Sokr btw)

Which of you brought up the outstandingly blunt reasoning we see above?

 

[Swiss]

And no, I'm not going to go out on why just yet as I'm still reading his slot.

Can we have some content.

 

[Swiss]

Vote: Red Ryu

Yeah...that plan doesn't sit by with me. Removing a possible vig is a terrible idea and scummy as ****.

Lynch worthy anyone?

 

[Dooms]

Lynch worthy anyone?

After he explained why, how do you still think that this is lynch worthy? o_O'.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

i'd say a solid 7.5 - 8 / 10

 

[Swiss]

After he explained why, how do you still think that this is lynch worthy? o_O'.

Because the scum tell wasn't in the analysis.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Don't hammer GFs till I get a chance to talk about it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You repeatedly asked me when to release it, then go and do so without my permission whilst having a town read on me...?

You said release it day 2 or day 3 earlier later in day 1.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Have I been unclear in this?

Purpose of this question?

Confident.

1. Because you made side comments like, if your indy explain this shot, Rake if this is your town play.

Which shows doubt.

2. You have better reads + still gauging something I've been considering.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Lynch worthy anyone?

Not by itself.

But it's not helping him at this point.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I am at one vote to assign Leviathan. Two people at least need to unassign right now. With a dead doc, giving that to me is signing my death warrant and I am not sure whether or not I want to decide what's carved on my tombstone yet.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

unassign Leviathan

 

[Swiss]

Ryker buddy. Work with me here.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

I am at one vote to assign Leviathan. Two people at least need to unassign right now. With a dead doc, giving that to me is signing my death warrant and I am not sure whether or not I want to decide what's carved on my tombstone yet.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

I may end up with it before all is said and done, but I do not want to be locked into it yet.

Swiss, how about you work with me instead of saying "work with me." You're driving me up the wall. I want to know things about you. You've played with a lot of information already and I need to see some conclusions and thought processes rather than yet more digging.

What happened to KWK? That's my big project today. Reevaluating him, Orbo, and then trying to figure out where I stand on you and Boss. Talk to me about the other three.

That's my pressing priority, I want to get to the rest of the cast today as well, especially JTB and Inferno.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Logging out of this account now. I'll be around at lunch and I'll be around when I'm off. I may be around a little at work depending on how much time I'm on this computer.

 

[Vinylic.]

Orbo's here and I'm currently making a hydra.

Now if there's a way how I can do it without saying you're not allowed to make multiple accounts.

 

[Swiss]

I have rights to make a hydra. Post in the general thread if not done by when I get back home pm me the email and desired name and I can make one.