I can support my read with evidence, therefore everyone else's opinion of him is wrong if it doesn't go with mine.
Catching back up and responding to stuff I missed...
First off, I'll point this out.
"Thank you, Joey for giving me stuff to actually substantiate my read on you."
This pretty much proves that you had me as scum for no reason, yes? Why did you have me as a scum read if you couldn't do anything with it at all?
"Their entire play has been idiotic
-shows 5 posts"
I don't have to point out tons of posts to get the idea across that your play is idiotic. I realized that your play was slightly less idiotic considering that JTB is more townie and more understandable with the GF, but it's still idiotic. Having a V/LA as your biggest scum read and using the excuse "I'm not going to pressure him or anything since he's not here" when you could be applying pressure to others. And no, throwing your vote on them and saying "I'm voting him because my actual scum read is V/LA" isn't applying pressure. The only thing you did while I was gone was questioned a few things and went at Rake.
"Rake and Wulf have been buddying.
-Show just 1 post where we have been buddying. We, TS have been on Rake's *** since the day started haha. Your only support here is that Rake has a town read on us lol. Explain how having a town read equates to buddying. How does Rake having a town read on someone differentiate from any other player having a town read on someone? You claim that Rake stated we are town multiple times, but he has only stated when asked his read on us which has been multiple times."
I was wrong on the buddying lol. I won't pursue this any farther.
"So your only claim to us being scummy is our play being idiotic, but you cannot support this at all. As Rake said, you're just throwing a blanket statement and hoping it sticks because people don't like our active brony play. In reality, however, there is nothing idiotic about our play. I'm confused, are you saying that us thinking that JTB should have the GF is a scumtell or...?"
What you did with your vote is scummy. You're faking pressure on people. What you did with the GF and JTB wasn't. However, where you voted JTB and 1) didn't do anything with it and 2) stated that you were only voting him because I was V/LA and voting me would be useless... You didn't even try to pressure him. You did the same thing with Orbo. You're laying your vote around and it's just sitting there. Not doing anything. Tell me that that isn't idiotic. Plus having a vote on me for going V/LA... That's idiotic too.
Anything that you've done this game that is actually important revolves around Rake and giving the GF to JTB. That's it. Everything else is idiotic play and reads that are just pulled out of your *** for no reason.
Moving on to Rake...
"Their spearheading of my lynch creating the basis of the logic which most people are now using to vote and possibly lynch me ?
Or their Q&A with other players about best use of GF's.
Or you know, everything i said in my wall of why i have a town read on zen"
People are "lynching" you because you're playing like a ******* with your vig claim and your pre-vig claim play was horrendous as well. Not sure if they made people realize that your play was that bad or if they were just like "Wow, Rake is a moron. Lets lynch that guy," but regardless, its pretty obvious that your play has been ****ty.
Q & A about something that doesn't even matter when it comes to getting reads on people? Asking people what they want to do with the GF is completely null. Especially on D1. What are you going to say if they want it for themselves? "They're scum for being selfish"? You can make connections later I guess, but it doesn't even apply right now. Not idiotic, sure, but not important in the slightest.
For your read on them, you mean this?
"Zenwulfsparklepants is town. He went right for me and didnt' come off my throat too much during the process, he wasn't content to let me not answer his 104, even though it took him a little while to answer my question, his reaction to it all coming out, is also on par with zen town."
How does him going after one person hard core equal a town read? Your meta on him doesn't matter to me btw and you won't convince me of a town or scum read on meta, so if that's what I'm supposed to be seeing, then too bad -shrug-. Especially when you say something like "on par". Shows uncertainty
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"No, it's revolving door door logic that allows you to safely push my and zen's lynches without having to be fully accountable for it based on saying "oh, Rake was town, well Zen must be scum" it also lets you not commit to making an actual read on a slot before they are gone, freeing you to post flip go "oh everyone else was saying it and the logic /etc , don't lynch me i followed town"."
Wat? The most lynches I could get off of that was 2, I'd have to have WAY more reasoning to even pull off your lynches in the first place, and you're both playing bad. You're also forgetting that you could both be scum but on different teams, which wouldn't be too shocking. You're also making a huge jump that I won't be thinking any of this over and that a town like this would even let me do that. Do you really think I'm that stupid, or do you just think that Ryker, Tom, and Swiss are going to let that go by? I wouldn't mind lynching you straight up. Same with Twilight. Also, I'll take blame for misunderstanding you. I wouldn't lynch you, and then not lynch TS because you were town. I want both of you lynched, since I think both of you are playing scummy (TS slightly less so). Is that a better way to put it?
"lol nice bolding of nothing, really makes me less suspicious.
you also clearly cared as from what you posted most of your zen scum was based on him going after you for nothing, and play which you blanketed as "idiotic".
And as scum you have every reason to worry, and the fact you keep mentioning how little zen has only does more for me to be suspicious of you, it's like your trying to re-affirm that zen came out of nowhere with it, and pass it off as only that to avoid being grilled on it."
LOL.
Hold on. You think I care about other's reaction to my reaction when it came to Zen's early vote on me?
LOL.
No.
I don't. I have no reason to. As scum, it's very easy to discredit it as a fake accusation and a point without reasoning (which it was. Zen even said so himself that he had no reasoning to go behind it). I didn't have him as a scum read for him having me as a scum, I have him as having me as a scum read and not doing anything with it. It's literally just me sitting there as a scum read, him voting other people for no reason and stating that he's only voting them because he's not voting me, and then just leaving the vote there until they post. If you're going to try to say that I have him as scum for having me as scum, then you're a moron and you need to learn how to read posts.
Basically, if you don't produce reasoning for your scum reads, I don't care about them. It's really simple, yes? More people should go with that logic imo. Works pretty well when sorting through the BS that people like TS give.
What's more funny than the above is that you think I'd not only care, but actually be worried about a read like that. If I were worried about that. I would be freaking out about everyone calling me scum. I'll defend myself, sure, but I'm not going to be like "No, you're scum because you called me scum D:<."
"How little zen has"
How little...
Little =/= nothing
I guess I have to do this.
ZEN HIMSELF ADMITTED THAT HE HAD NOTHING ON ME BEFORE I POSTED AFTER MY V/LA.
It's obviously not clear that "I finally have something to substantiate my read with" means that he couldn't define a scum read on me before my return from V/LA. He had nothing legit on me. Stop being an idiot and read. It's getting kind of annoying.
"not really, i was already talkign about legit claiming and making D1 more interesting, it was completely in line with what was happening."
No, you said the following three things (not word by word):
"What if I tell you that I can clear someone today?"
then..
"Maybe I should claim today..."
"...Didn't you see me say I soft-claimed day vig?"
All three of which, were completely random, out of place, and idiotic. You had no reason to bring any of this up, bringing it up to "make day 1 more interesting", and telling me that saying that alone doesn't make this idiotic is... LOL no.
"Not that great imo, not a fan of being vig myself and legit wanted to be scum this game. You have no idea how disappointed i am that i am town. No one said "are you a vig? " i soft claimed day vig, talked about legit claiming, then legit claimed plain and simple.
I also have taken all the heat for the terribe play and gone done to the dot on why i did it, what i got , why i got it and what i'm doing about it. i don't understand what your saying in the second part."
Ryu asked.
Riiight here.
(Yes, it's before you claimed.)
I love it when I'm right :3. Next!
"Convince me that you're not scummy and that your claim isn't out of place. Also, if you're so interested in defending Twilight, why don't you show me how the rest of his crappy play isn't scummy if you think that him having me as 100% scum alone throughout all of day 1 based on nothing is null?"
I'm not going to waste my time making a case on you. I'll let our conversations work for themselves for the better or worse. If you don't want to explain why you played like a scummy dumb ***, claimed for no reason, or why TS going after you all day err day is town... That's on you. I'm not going to try to make you explain things. If you don't cooperate with town, you get lynched. Simple, no? Especially with the answers you've given me so far, I'm not going to go out of my way just for you to refute with tons of **** like this. "Go back to where I defined my town read" when it's completely based on meta? Really? No.
Also it's funny because he had me as more of a scum read than you when I haven't even posted, and you were ranked orange instead of red
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Finishing any reading now btw.
