Final Fantasy VIII Mafia | ~ Mafia Wins!! ~

[Mastermind]

Alright, we're both here now.

 

[Mastermind]

Goddammit!

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Alright, we're both here now.

He dun goofed.

Best hydra NA on the scene. (**** Boss)

 

[Boss]

You ain't ****, you ain't never been ****, you ain't never gonna be ****.

*5 shades*

Now level with me bro.. make sure you read Swiss' last post then read my post

 

[Dramatic Flair]

3rd time now Rake.

Can we lynch orbo already

not going to happen

please come back when you have regained brain function

Rake, which post was your 102 in response to?

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Watching this exhange with interest.

What was so interesting about this?

I noted something interesting about it myself.

 

[Dooms]

Okay, I need to rethink things before I respond to Twilight & Rake. Different view on Twilight, realized that JTB has done way more than I thought they have. Skipped a page on accident and realized earlier that he actually thought of the "Shoot GL. Scum = dead, town = clear" thing when I thought Rake brought it up with his vig claim.

@Twilight: I thought you choosing JTB was random since he didn't really stick out to me at all on initial read as doing anything. It was a major mistake on my part.

More of a town read on Twilight now than earlier.

Fine with giving GL to random or to Rake. Feel better with Random due to roleblocker being able to **** all over us if he's really a vig.

Responding to everything once I do my english project and do a quick re-read to gather thoughts with these new things in mind.

that's actually a typo.

Rake was supposed to be JTB.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

balls to the wall twilightsparkle most epic brony in all of bronyville

What does this even mean?

 

[TwilightSparkle]

Orbo disappearing is important because I was beginning to pressure him, yet he disappeared without a word.

As for as Carbuncle goes, I want one of two things:

1) We give Carbuncle to Swiss and let Rake shoot him tonight. That way if we lynch Rake D2 and he happens to be vig, we have a clear in the form of Swiss.

2) We lynch Rake today and let Carbuncle randomly assign itself, thus giving us a chance that scum will shoot the BP by accident. The problem that lies with this is the chance scum will get Carbuncle and be able to shoot without fear of hitting BP.

I'm leaning towards option 1, I'm really on the fence on Rake being town or scum. If we were to go with that, even if Rake does flip town, we have a clear at the very least.

Saw JTB quote with the idea of letting Rake shoot BP Swiss.

Scum Swiss roleblocks town Rake. Bam, cleared scum Swiss.

Reading, atm.

This. We aren't doing that now that Rake has claimed. This would have only been good to do had the Vig been a mystery. We are also not directing Rake's claim. He will shoot one of the scummy people, nothing more than that.

Muder just brought up something I forgot to look into.

 

[TwilightSparkle]

oh **** im not allowed to do that am i? posting in cyhpers. i just remembered. ok it stands for btnacdorbicshumttiaswharit by the way thats not a chainsaw defense on rake but i can see how u might think that and how ryker could be town if we were scum

Boss what the heck were you referring to in the bold?

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Zen, I'm looking at your readlist in 145.

Can you tell me how your JTB and Ruy reads have progressed.

If you tell me that was Badwolf, I will find you, and I will slap you silly.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Rake, which post was your 102 in response to?

that was my provocative response to zenwulfsparklehydrapants

 

[Rajam]

Votecount 5 Day 1:

Lynch vote

[0] mUrDErBUSh
[0] Kary
[0] JTB
[1] TwilightSparkle mUrDErBUSh
[1] Tyranitarphantom Anomandaris_Rake
[1] Boss Swiss
[1] -Masquerain- TwilightSparkle
[0] Inferno3044
[0] Red Ryu
[1] Kreative Whiz Kids Boss
[0] Orboknown
[0] Swiss
[3] Anomandaris_Rake Kreative Whiz Kids, Inferno3044, Red Ryu

[5] Not voting:
Kary, Tyranitarphantom, -Masquerain-, Orboknown, JTB



Carbuncle

[1] mUrDErBUSh mUrDErBUSh
[0] Kary
[1] JTB TwilightSparkle
[0] TwilightSparkle
[0] Tyranitarphantom
[1] Boss Boss
[0] -Masquerain-
[0] Inferno3044
[0] Red Ryu
[0] Kreative Whiz Kids
[0] Orboknown
[3] Swiss Kreative Whiz Kids, Red Ryu, Swiss
[1] Anomandaris_Rake JTB

[6] Not assigning:
Kary, Tyranitarphantom, -Masquerain-, Orboknown, Anomandaris_Rake, Inferno3044



Notes:
Currently V/LA: Kary

With 13 players, it takes 7 votes to lynch and to assign GFs!

 

[TwilightSparkle]

Zen, I'm looking at your readlist in 145.

Can you tell me how your JTB and Ruy reads have progressed.

If you tell me that was Badwolf, I will find you, and I will slap you silly.

Initial Ruy: Didn't like how he randomly claimed his ability. Felt pretty pointless. Only reason I saw for it was gaining town points.

Current: Like that he has shown a legitimate investigative thought process.

Initial JTB: Didn't like his first post coming into the game with the "we lynchin orbo yet?". It was pretty random.

Current: That has since been explained and he did so on his own without anyone questioning it. I agree with his thought process.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hey Kreative Whiz Kids, is that Kantrip or Sokr there?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

It's Sokr. I'm re-reading.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hey Sosk when you catch up, tell me what you think of Boss and Swiss.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Sokr* sorry.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Will do. I've actually been having some trouble with getting a read on them.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

How come, be honest.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Swiss, I'm reading Rake as Indy more so than Mafia, Serial killer.

I know he put himself in front of everyone playing like he did. He purposefully went against the grain, but his play. Wanting Carbuncle in turn for possibly clearing players, it just screams self protection while making himself appear better for town. I know Rake, I know he can jump ahead at times, but here...it's just so off with what he did.

Why are you so sure he did it in a sense of, "Too dumb to be scum"

Also, reading you with a town lean, should I summon the GF I said earlier or not?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

I've never been good at getting reads on Swiss and I didn't look at Boss' posts too much tbh.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

My (Ryker) internet was out for the past 30 minutes. In that time, Raz went to sleep on me I have in depth notes on the first 5 pages and I'm posting them, but they are raw, uneditted, and lack the conclusions I have yet to reach after finishing the game.

Do NOT lynch until I'm caught up or I am never going to be caught up.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

NOTE: Taking vig claim into account. Sincerely doubt Rake is mafia. Either SK or Vig. Reads reflect that.

1.) Orbo #56-#57 town lean.
2.) Orbo GF discussion. Town read.
3.) Swiss intentionally trying to keep me (Ryker) from reading him. Don't have a problem with staying unreadable to the rest of the cast. Don't like how he's staying aloof to me.
4.) Rake #85. WEAK justification.
5.) Ruy #95. Ew, doesn't do anything. Background Ruy is scum Ruy.
6.) Rake refuses to answer Zenwulf and it's ********. It's a dumb question and a ******** act not to appease him. Hate both parties involved. Zen presses moral highground advantage for no discernible gain. Zen should stop being obtuse.
7.) JTB #101. Worst post in game thus far, possible? Definitely a contender. Floats out a scum read on a slot that he has no business scum reading, but does so with no commitment. Will track Orbo read.
8.) Zen going deep on Rake (not a bad thing of itself). Not really concerning himself with other players. Dislike.
9.) Zenwulf #111. What difference does it make? Going in for the sake of going in on multiple fronts.
10.) Zenwulf #113. You don't have anything to incriminate him with. : /
11.) Don't get Boss's #118 cypher. Don't see a crumb, don't see a reason to post it otherwise.
12.) I love Swiss #121. Swiss thinking like I think. Good day.
13.) Ruy #122 is good. If he continues doing things I don't have a problem with him. Ruy #123 is ehhhhhh. Raz doesn't like. Ryker doesn't care.
14.) Boss #124 doesn't say anything. Question obviously talks about cypher. Answer has nothing to do with it.
15.) Funnily enough, I want to know #128 as well.
16.) Don't like Zenwulf #134. Dodges the question and I like the question.
17.) Ruy's been fine this entire page. Town read.
18.) Zenwulf STILL dodges the question. Do you know to do with a lame horse? Shoot him in the head, please.
19.) Orbo #143 is solid. Last line is dumb move, but doesn't hurt town read. Outing claim slip isn't proscum anyway.
20.) Zenwulf #145 is interesting. There are obviously random reads in it, but the ones that could have basis line up. Rake scum, Orbo town, JTB scum lean, Ruy town lean, Boss squarely null. Red flag on having both Swiss and us as definite town. Swiss is a town lean for us at the moment, so that one is somewhat mitigated. This single post makes me want to not murder him.
21.) Boss #148 is gross because it doesn't look past the surface that we just put it up there as pretty okay, and proceeds to dismiss the whole. Unfortunately, Zen posts these stupid read lists to net reactions that never amount to anything and make Boss's #148 a reasonable way to answer.
22.) 4 pages in and a lot of posts from Boss and no content. Possibly hydra disconnect johns. Keeping tabs on it.
~Later on Boss reminds me it's confirmation phase in #157. Might be why.
23.) #161 contains no reads.
24.) #162 Kevin wants to Daykill Ruy who both me AND TOM liked.
25.) Boss # 165. No reads aside from no brainer Orbo town, still, but I like the questions he's asking.
26.) Zenwulf #167. Absolutely ****ing disgusting. Ruy goes from town lean to scum lean and Rake goes from scum to town lean. REALLY disgusting. His last read list made me want to keep him, but this makes me want him super dead.
27.)

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Initial Ruy: Didn't like how he randomly claimed his ability. Felt pretty pointless. Only reason I saw for it was gaining town points.

Current: Like that he has shown a legitimate investigative thought process.

I don't like you anymore.

Your original Ruy read was not that he was a scum lean, it was that he was a town lean. You only changed that later. Why was he initially town and why did you claim that he was initially scummy?

 

[Dramatic Flair]

For reference,

Your initial readlist in #145

mUrDErBUSh (Raziek / Ryker)
Kary
JTB
TwilightSparkle (BadWolf28738 / Ramen King)
Tyranitarphantom
Boss (KevinM / Tom)
-Masquerain-
Inferno3044
Red Ryu
Kreative Whiz Kids (Potassium / Sokr)
Orboknown
Swiss
Anomandaris_Rake

gg see you guys next Thursday.

Your updated read list in #167

mUrDErBUSh (Raziek / Ryker)
Kary
JTB
TwilightSparkle (BadWolf28738 / Ramen King)
Tyranitarphantom
Boss (KevinM / Tom)
-Masquerain-
Inferno3044
Red Ryu
Kreative Whiz Kids (Potassium / Sokr)
Orboknown
Swiss
Anomandaris_Rake

 

[Dramatic Flair]

We don't want to kill Rake today.

Rake shoots within Inferno, JTB, or KWK unless something comes up in the back ten pages to change that.

At this point, I wouldn't mind him shooting Boss either, but I would much rather not give him license to shoot a strong player.

 

[Ramen King]

You're quite behind my friend. You're basing my response based on early game. A lot has gone on since then.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

I really don't give a ****. I asked how your read progressed and you responded with your initial read being Ruy scum. That contradicts your actual initial read and that deserves an explanation regardless of how old the initial read is. I'll be caught up, but you need to not dodge questions when I ask them. I am not Rake, my friend, and your slot is of more than a little interest to me.

Still waiting on a response to my question from Swiss.

 

[Ramen King]

Oh I see. #167 was the post I was referring to.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Yeah, obviously, and I found 167 gross. However, that wasn't your initial read and I asked that question before I'd even read #167.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Honestly, Ruy was a throwaway question to get an answer about JTB so I could cross reference it with the rest of the game as I was scum reading JTB and didn't want to give you the overt heads up so that you would play to it.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

So, once more, why was Ruy initially town?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I've never been good at getting reads on Swiss and I didn't look at Boss' posts too much tbh.

If it's ok, just try and post what you think they are. I agree Swiss is a hard read to nail but give me an honest answer, what is he to you Sokr. Even Boss can be like that at time, but...just give what you feel and think right now.

Anything will do.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Congratulations. Consider me invested in the game, however, unless my analysis provokes discussion to things that are currently relevant to me, I'm going to dip until tomorrow night.

I would love people to read and comment on the notes that I posted.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

MurderBush, why are you so invested in Twilight's read on me?

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Because it is a contradiction with the reads he posted in the game.

I didn't really give a **** originally. I actually don't give too much of a **** about his read on you still. It's about why his read doesn't match what he originally said.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I feel like that is Ryker posting, this true?

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Yeah, I said so above. Raz went to bed while my internet was out.

The notes I took were written by me while both of us were going through the thread and talking about it.

The current line of inquisition is me in response to the answer we got.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Brewyu here.

So Murderbush, or rather Ryker, Tell me about Swiss, I put him as a town lean off his #543 alone, but, as I saw with you and Swiss in a solo game, one of Zen's lynch the other player or imaginary player things where you correctly called Swiss scum.

What do people need to see in Swiss scum, this is something I'm trying to see here. Your responses, and Swiss', show to me, neither of you know each other's alignment. What is your read on Swiss, and if we wanted to see scum Swiss, what do we need to look for?