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Legitimately confused by Nabe as a result. Vaan reads as lurkish and not really trying to contribute much either, and is also trying to undermine the value of conversation on D1.
#HBC | Kary
this is definitely a scum tell right? 
because i dont think nabe is really all that scummy (wasn't he the one asking those archaic questions in Mario Mafia? i feel like he's doing the same thing here), my role is worthless, and I don't want to upset him/you and have him never play with you again
Which questions were archaic, and what questions was he asking here that you feel are similar to these aforementioned archaic questions?
I just got lynched on D1 in the last game, and I was scum.
It doesn't count if they volunteer.I just got lynched on D1 in the last game, and I was scum.
You start to interact with me by asking this, in response to me saying I'm going to bed. At the ungodly hour of 1:42 a.m., which is two hours after the start of the Day and an hour after I had last posted, you ask me an obvious question. The obvious answer is: lynch somebody. We call it Random Voting Stage for a reason, and in 24 hours Random Voting is only going to resolve into a Random Lynch, short of an enormously drastic scumslip. You know this. You couldn't possibly be unaware of it. Nevertheless, you ask, because... why? The only reason I can think of is to harp on a known quality of mine, my reluctance to lynch Day 1, which you poke at like a crazed lion in every game we have played in my memory, except for Mario Mafia where you hinted at it and then proceeded to do whatever your indy plan was. I think we can agree that was an unusual situation for you.
This is a joke. Do I have to label that in some way other than referencing Gorf? But more importantly, this is a joke specifically agreeing with your own assertion that Day 1 is worth playing, because I'm poking fun at NZers who don't think that's true.
How many ways can this be deconstructed? Let's see.
Wow, thanks for being so open with all of us.
I don't think it's unfair of me to say that you really missed the boat on this one by being lynched D1. Town won Mario Mafia at Night, not during the Day. The success of an NZone Night phase is dependent firmly on the Night phase, according to them, which would be silly except that they delivered on it.
No, Nabe does not make it sound like that. Interactions are important, flips are important. But, in Mario Mafia, which you keep mentioning, which I played to completion, I saw a really strong game played at Night. Yes, I want them to play Day phases too, and they do a bit, but you can't force them, and you can't play an effective game on your own terms unless you're playing it alone.
Again: I played it.
When I post in lowercase, it suggests a certain tone. As has already been pointed out by others, I don't have more than a single game of context to call someone "uncharacteristically" anything. Uni was indy, and Coricus was mafia, and both played the game in an unappealing way. In the quote from Uni that I called "uncharacteristically serious", he calls himself "the new me", and that's what I played off of by telling the two of them, "this is different, keep it up."
Sup Vaan, still no thoughts?
#HBC | Nabe
your post is filled with a lot of exaggeration and slander, and blows things out of proportion. I really don't think we're butting heads as TvT. I'm going to let others commentate on it.
No, you don't. You could not possibly think that. At the time that you said this, I had made four posts that were absolutely null. Still, you try here to ascribe meaning to them, so let's see how you did.
Are we homies? Maybe we should have hydra'd as Furio Tigre in this game, so I could mainline my thoughts directly to your veins, not to mention prevent you from making posts like these.
Is this really me "trying to undermine fruitful discussion"? For context, let's see how I actually quoted Pokechu:
Hmm. Applying common sense to this situation, was I:
We've already covered this in the previous half of this wall, but I don't have any clue why telling someone to continue their behaviour would cause them to do the opposite. In what world are people so self-conscious of being called 'serious' that they would clam up and be like, "Wait, am I acting more serious than normal?" If someone did stop to think that about themselves, they are probably scum, not the average person being a normal level of self-conscious.
Yeah, it sure is weird how those two posts... had the same tone... and no ambiguity whatsoever... Strange...
I've covered everything that you say here already, so let's take a different approach now. Are you trying to bait out of me that I'm a PR? Because you know, a PR might be very eager to get to the Night phase, not only for the reasons I've already expressed (Night is the important phase of this particular game) but so that they can use their ability on a certain player posting nonsensical garbage.
You "might be" convinced to go the other way, huh? I think I've demonstrated in this breakdown that you shouldn't have been convinced of anything to begin with. Again, this sentiment ("I don't know what Nabe's big plan is") feels like rolebait more than a real push.
But you weren’t mafia...Which questions were archaic, and what questions was he asking here that you feel are similar to these aforementioned archaic questions?
Also, what. If you have a win condition, your role is not worthless. You have a team that needs your support. It's one thing to put yourself in the crossfire to generate discussion, it's another to just throw your slot away to an unconfirmed slot.
I just got lynched on D1 in the last game, and I was scum.
I will comment on the fact that Shiny posted several times and acknowledged he'd already "missed a lot" hours before acting surprised that the game had already started and casting a vote on the then current leading lynchee.
Here's the thing: even if I'm not mafia, that doesn't mean I can't drop scum tells as an independent.
This is a step farther than I'd go. Maven's not wrong, Day 1 always has value.
No. You're not allowed to be sly and cute and pretend that it's alright. It's not alright. Interact with the words that I've said to you, or else you are absolutely the lynch toDay. If you're town, put your eyes to it.
It absolutely was valuable. A lot of people came out of discussion looking significantly pro-town and trustworthy as a result.
I'm allowed to be annoyed with you. You are, unfortunately, going to have to accept that. The terms of our relationship have changed.
For what?
in about 7 hours and 18 minuteswhen does this phase end?
You should go back and reread your posts very carefully, and ask yourself "would I speak to a family member or co-worker like this?"
Shish has expressed his distaste for Fools in the past. I don't think he'd make Pokechu one.
Oh bother and befuddle!
Yes, you are. I wouldn't have bothered if you weren't being awful.
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From the games I've played, it varies.
I just can't tell why the heck else he would fish for attention like this, LOL. A mafioso wouldn't draw attention to themselves, they wouldn't try to draw attention from other mafia super blatantly, and they wouldn't. . .whatever the hell he's doing in general. And it's just functionally useless for a townie to act like this, LOL.
I am not a condescending person, I stated my interpretation of the facts, I did not say they were infallible. I didn't call you names.
