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Fate/Mafia 2 - ENDGAME: And just let him ****ing die? - TOWN VICTORY

#HBC | Nabe

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Pointlessly revealing my role was the Social Group me.

New me stays quiet until ther's evidence of my role.

You can see it with how I haven't talked about my role in Gorf's game, or how I never said a thing until day 2 in Mario Mafia.
uncharacteristically serious

Doing the latter is a dumb move and even dumber when your hand's not forced, though.

Granted everyone hates fool roles.

Basically he's either dumb or the game mods are getting yelled at by some of the more crotchety players in a hot second. :ultpacman:
uncharacteristically serious



keep it up
 

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maaaaan roles are weaker this time anyways you could honestly pay me to say my role, it won't matter cause it's not a good role lol
 

#HBC | Nabe

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What's the plan for today?
It's important though that we try and detect scum tells during the day though, correct?
Nah. I'm all in on this NZoner lifestyle this game, bruv. My brain is off for the Day phase, and then we pick up the pieces after the party and examine them gravely through hangover-soaked lenses. I think.

smoke walrus
 

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Nah. I'm all in on this NZoner lifestyle this game, bruv. My brain is off for the Day phase, and then we pick up the pieces after the party and examine them gravely through hangover-soaked lenses. I think.

smoke walrus
Maven89 Maven89 what do you think of this post as well as Nabe’s earlier interaction with Pokechu?
 

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Alright, I’ll just be transparent with my thoughts: Nabe knows that, in order for us to have a successful night phase, there is merit in us having discussion during the day. How are we supposed to generate trust for the night phase without actions to look at from the day?

Maybe I’m still just a complete scrub when it comes to the night phase, but Nabe makes it sound like there is nothing to be gleaned from talking during the day phase.

I’m just surprised that he has made such a huge 180 in mafia from the previous game, to be frank.

I also think it’s weird that he is calling things “uncharacteristically serious” when he is being fairly uncharacteristic himself.
 

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Katts voting madness tracker~
so everyone can keep track of **** and stuff
hey guys, katt was more or less keen on keeping the vote records to herself and the graveyard but been told to also share them with ya fools so you guys can keep look at the standings as well, so here you go

votes needed for a lynch (8)​
Ura (1): Nabe
Pokechu (4): Bardul, pokechu, shiny, opossum
Nabe (2): Praline, bardul
Vaanrose (1): Maven
Nabe: Votes ura (8:20 pm)
Bardul: Votes Pokechu (8:36 pm)
Pokechu: Votes himself (8:39 pm)
Praline: Votes nabe (7:06 am)
Shiny: Votes pokechu (8:29 am)
opossum: Votes pokechu (9:58 am)
bardul: Votes Nabe (10:06 am)
Maven: Votes Vaanrose (12:43 pm)
Bardul: Unvotes (1:37 pm)
Bardul: Votes nabe (2:02 pm)
 
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So if we hit the 8 votes needed to lynch does the day end, or is it like how we normally do the games?
 

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ya i can understand that response

i think it'll be handled better with actual scheduling than gorfs game with both of us here, so ya don't need to worry praline

plus we'll have night chats so not stuck doing nothing
 

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besides you

You couldn't pay me

Everyone else could ;)
In that case do you have anything to share? Just so we have something to go off of.
 

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In that case do you have anything to share? Just so we have something to go off of.
Oh wow you're playing?? Neato! You're fun! :laugh:

Both my abilities are one-shot. And they're both typical abilities (abilities we've already seen before).
 

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Am I really one of the frontrunners to get lynched? I mean I know Nabe was joking and all but still lol.
Pokechu: Votes himself (8:39 pm)
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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You guys are so mean man.
 

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ya i can understand that response

i think it'll be handled better with actual scheduling than gorfs game with both of us here, so ya don't need to worry praline

plus we'll have night chats so not stuck doing nothing
So days could be shorter than normal but nights are still 24 hours?
 

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I'm gonna put a tentative vote on Pokechu for now.

Vote: Pokechu

Are any of your single-use abilities provable, without saying what they are?
 

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whaaaaaat

why? :^( :confused:?? ? ?
It adds nothing and if you're town it only helps the scum.

So you're a 2 shot? normally roles that can only be used once are very powerful. You're also likely not the tracker, jailer, cop, doctor, or anythign of that sort.

It doesn't tell us your alignment, that can be either. If you're town, you just gave the scum important information. if you're scum, you're either lying, or trying to bait people into town reading you for what you said. Either way, it doesn't help town
 

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I think Nabe is a good bet. We're homies, but I feel like he's trying to undermine fruitful discussion from happening, and I don't really get why.

I'll elaborate a bit on this:

to bed
it's late
stop y'all it's bedtime
This post seems odd. It's a strange reaction to a post that, at the time, had the potential to garner a lot of discussion and input. Instead he kinda says some mumbo jumbo that more or less tries to bring attention away from Pokechu while not really accomplishing much else.

uncharacteristically serious


uncharacteristically serious



keep it up
This is a really vague post. It points out that these slots are "uncharacteristically serious" but insists that they "keep it up". It just seems like an odd thing to do. I feel like the average person wouldn't know how to react to this and might feel more prone to not talk as much because they are wondering if they're actually being more serious than normal. It's fairly ambiguous and kind of disconcerting since he is trying to put out a joking aura in this following post:

Nah. I'm all in on this NZoner lifestyle this game, bruv. My brain is off for the Day phase, and then we pick up the pieces after the party and examine them gravely through hangover-soaked lenses. I think.

smoke walrus
I feel like he's just not really being helpful in promoting fruitful discussion and is instead promoting a bad philosophy of "let's not talk about anything until the night happens". He's not trying to find anyone trustworthy to make plans with, he just wants to skip right into night action claims.

I might be convinced to move in a different direction, but for now I'm not really "getting it" at the moment if there is some big plan in the works on Nabe's end.

Vote: Nabe
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing a Pokechu full-claim honestly. Would make it much easier to read the slot and less of a hassle to worry about.
 

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I'm still concerned about sending night PMs...am I just being anti-social for thinking that night pms do more harm than good for Town? Someone enlighten me about this since I pretty much was not at all involved in last game's night pm process nor did I get to see any of the conversations.

Hypothetically if I misread #HBC | Nabe #HBC | Nabe and tell him I'm the cop, and Nabe is a strongman, he's going to pull me over and end my soul after having his way with me.
The reason why night PMs can be beneficial is that scum have a hard time replicating the genuine relationships that are formed between townies each game. It's possible for them to pass off as sincere, but difficult because they're talking to you one-on-one and they know that they have malicious intents (misguide you, throw blame on others, make you suspicious of others, etc.) Compared to someone who's genuinely innocent, the act and disguise the mafia puts on pales.

I didn't wanna make it sound like I thought you were dumb :laugh: when I said the obvious "well if they ask you to target someone dumb then they scum" when you first asked this question, but it has happened CONSISTENTLY with me. This past game, I knew that vaan was mafia because he was making suggestions and recommendations for my enabling, but they would always go wrong; night 1 I told him I was targeting DJ, he told me to target Stoopid; DJ was blocked. N2 he told me to target DJ again, DJ was killed.
Best to just use it on DJ and hope he actually gets a track off.
Even in our second mafia game in our NZone group, I was talking to a scum, Holder, and I was going to blow someone up (they were a mafia). I told this to a mafioso and they wanted to "jail" (they were just a roleblocker lol) me, saying that all lives mattered at that point of the game.
You're planning on sacrificing yourself? :( A mafia life is worth more than a townie life because there's more of us but at this point every life matters. Should I make it so you'd come out alive in that scenario?
When things like this happen, and you notice the coincidences, the mafia is easily outed. Especially when you make plans with other players to take down the mafia (because obviously a mafia wouldn't co-operate to kill one of their own). Again in the second mafia game, I blew up a mafia with the help of two other townies; that proved each other's townie-ness to all three of us, and we trusted each other for the rest of the game, which made it easy for me to single out the mafia.

Just in general, night PMs really benefit the town; they help to build trust between townies, they allow you to converse information privately that you couldn't otherwise (e.g; "I'm the cop!"), and it helps to widdle down potential suspects as you get to read the slot better with the one-on-one conversation and gain an understanding of their motives and their role, the latter especially as mafia roles usually aren't as grandioso as townie roles. Night PMs are pretty cool as long as you don't act dumb with them. Which, depending on your personality, may be pretty easy,, considering how last game I went to Coricus, the mafia roleblocker, and asked if she would benefit from my enabling. :laugh:
 
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#HBC | Nabe

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If you are serious right now, BarDulL BarDulL , then I am never playing in a game with you again. Do not pretend to glean divine insight from three posts of absolutely nothing. There is sewage spilling out of you.

If you're not serious, and you're doing it to get reads on other players, then you're delusional, because the only people who are going to give you anything interesting on this are the DGamers. At best, you will get a shallow wagon on me to round out the short 24-hour phase, and nothing of merit whatsoever.
 
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