Fate/Mafia 2 - ENDGAME: And just let him ****ing die? - TOWN VICTORY

[praline]

Nah, all I was told was that I was poisoned.

The hosts wouldn't tell me how long it will take before i'm done.

If there’s another night phase I’ll dragon you.

 

[Wolfie557]

I ddidng get anything about the poison I asked them just now.

Maven night 2 had 1 action.
Last night 3 actions.

None of us did, to be fair. It was like three hours early.


I've been nothing if not consistent in my desire to get rid of White. Don't dare try to use that to incriminate me.

I was asked to poison you but I didn't.

 

[praline]

So what you're saying is, they receive the effects of your skill on the same night you use it.

Exactly.

 

[Wolfie557]

Vaan why aren't you going against me lmao. I'll catch up soon

 

[Ura]

Oh nice, you're here White.

Please, the floor is yours...

I'm DYING to hear what you have to say...

 

[vaanrose]

Exactly.

Praline.

 

[praline]

Praline.

...what?

 

[vaanrose]

...what?

Praline!

 

[praline]

Praline!

What!?

 

[vaanrose]

What!?

You said it took a phase to take effect!

 

[praline]

You said it took a phase to take effect!

I meant yeah it kinda does since they wouldn’t be a dragon until the following day phase.

 

[vaanrose]

I meant yeah it kinda does since they wouldn’t be a dragon until the following day phase.

Praline.

Why do you think Maven isn't dead right now?

 

[Wolfie557]

Dude I'm the Doctor. Why would you think I'm Mafia?

Mafia doctors are a thing.

 

[vaanrose]

Maven night 2 had 1 action.
Last night 3 actions.

This is what I needed, thanks.

 

[praline]

Praline.

Why do you think Maven isn't dead right now?

How should I know? The role pm doesn’t mention that only one person can be a dragon at a time or anything

 

[vaanrose]

How should I know? The role pm doesn’t mention that only one person can be a dragon at a time or anything

Because Maven wasn't a dragon last night.

 

[Maven89]

I ddidng get anything about the poison I asked them just now.

Maven night 2 had 1 action.
Last night 3 actions.

correction. i wont know how many by them. or on them. just how many.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motion_Detector

His initial claim, consistent with the role he claims to have. I don't believe he can put a permanent motion detector on a person, because that'd have to be one use and it makes no sense for either town or scum or independent to have a one-shot motion detector that lasts forever.

The one action on night 2 was him targeting me. The 3 actions on night three is him targeting me, me jailing Opossum, and Vaan attempting to vig me.

 

[Maven89]

Because Maven wasn't a dragon last night.

this is some of the most joyful news I've ever had

 

[praline]

Because Maven wasn't a dragon last night.

Well then that’s on Shish for not mentioning it in my role pm.

 

[vaanrose]

3 Actions on Maven's motion detector.

1. Maven's Action - Jailing, ostensibly.
2. Yellow's Action - Tracking. Not blocked by his death, we confirmed that with Pokechu's redirect going through.
3. My Kill

My kill didn't go through.

Couldn't have been a redirector. If it were, I would not have targeted Maven, and we'd have two results on him only.
Couldn't have been a roleblocker. Same thing, I wouldn't have targeted Maven, and we'd have two results.
Couldn't have been a mafia doctor. Then there'd be four action on him, the protecting and his killing.

 

[Wolfie557]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motion_Detector

His initial claim, consistent with the role he claims to have. I don't believe he can put a permanent motion detector on a person, because that'd have to be one use and it makes no sense for either town or scum or independent to have a one-shot motion detector that lasts forever.

The one action on night 2 was him targeting me. The 3 actions on night three is him targeting me, me jailing Opossum, and Vaan attempting to vig me.

I am not included in the count.

Something's not adding up.

 

[vaanrose]

When Praline uses her dragonify, it happens on the same phase.

Maven was vulnerable to my kill on night two, not night three.

And this makes sense. If it took a full phase, and poison kills on the next phase after being poisoned, praline could never cure them. She'd use the skill, but if it didn't take affect immediately, that night, they'd still die.

 

[Wolfie557]

I used to think praline is mafia due to her dragon thing then mafia flip revealed another posioner so I thought praline should be town.

However the mafias only ones to have any dragon stuff revealed.


Also
Voting me better than dying at night cos you would be all paranoid otherwise why you can't see anything. I've told vaan about this recently since pokechu who knew died.

 

[Wolfie557]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motion_Detector

His initial claim, consistent with the role he claims to have. I don't believe he can put a permanent motion detector on a person, because that'd have to be one use and it makes no sense for either town or scum or independent to have a one-shot motion detector that lasts forever.

The one action on night 2 was him targeting me. The 3 actions on night three is him targeting me, me jailing Opossum, and Vaan attempting to vig me.

I'm robin hood so I trapped you. Permanently.

 

[Wolfie557]

(one shot^^^^^^^)

 

[Maven89]

When Praline uses her dragonify, it happens on the same phase.

Maven was vulnerable to my kill on night two, not night three.

And this makes sense. If it took a full phase, and poison kills on the next phase after being poisoned, praline could never cure them. She'd use the skill, but if it didn't take affect immediately, that night, they'd still die.

Why would you assume the dragon modifier drops off?

 

[Maven89]

Vaan, at this point you're coming up with roles that are not what people have claimed to keep to the viewpoint you started with.

We have a mafia lie detector, and White, who is a poisoner, who has repeatedly poisoned people who he shouldn't have. At no point has be poisoned someone who was scummy.

I have a track. We lynch white. Three things happen at night.

1. The mafia NKs me because of my track, and my slot no longer has to be dealt with
2. The mafia doesn't NK me so that I can be mislynched, and I have a guilty or a clear
3. The mafia doesn't NK me and no one believes me so I get mislynched anyways, but the independent is gone and can't kill another person.

Also Praline can attempt to save Ura and we can know more about his role

 

[vaanrose]

Vaan, at this point you're coming up with roles that are not what people have claimed to keep to the viewpoint you started with.

We have a mafia lie detector, and White, who is a poisoner, who has repeatedly poisoned people who he shouldn't have. At no point has be poisoned someone who was scummy.

I have a track. We lynch white. Three things happen at night.

1. The mafia NKs me because of my track, and my slot no longer has to be dealt with
2. The mafia doesn't NK me so that I can be mislynched, and I have a guilty or a clear
3. The mafia doesn't NK me and no one believes me so I get mislynched anyways, but the independent is gone and can't kill another person.

Also Praline can attempt to save Ura and we can know more about his role

What action did you perform on night 2?

 

[Maven89]

What action did you perform on night 2?

I preformed no action

 

[Ura]

So yeah White...

Why did you poison me?

 

[vaanrose]

I am not included in the count.

Something's not adding up.

I could kiss you.

The motion detector saw 2 night actions on Maven on night 2, and the act of putting the motion detector down doesn't count (which makes sense, it's not down yet to be triggered by itself).

So what were the night actions on night 2?

The mafia's actions:

Uni - Claimed to have followed me, was confident enough to bluff if he hadn't.
Golden - He had the ability to give his double vote to someone else. He was too confident in his ability to prove himself not the double voter, so he must have used this skill.

??? - Killed Pokechu.

Ura - Recharged white. Confirmed by white.
White - Trapped Maven. Does not count toward action total.
Pokechu - Redirected Opo. Confirmed Town.
Opo - Was redirected to himself by Pokechu. Confirmed by Yellow.
Yellow - Tracked Opo, confirmed he targeted himself. Confirmed Town.
Cori - No possible day action. Confirmed Town.
Praline - Dragon'd Maven. ACTION 1.
Me - No action.

Maven - No action.

1 of 2 actions on the motion detector.

So I'll ask the class, who killed Pokechu?

 

[vaanrose]

Vote: Maven

 

[Maven89]

Vaan, in what game are mafia not able to do their actions + the kill?

 

[Maven89]

Also, White claimed to see 1 action on me night 2, not 2.

Vaan, what are you doing this game

Dude

Take a step back, take a long breathe, and reapproach this. You're sticking to their pet theory so much that you're misreading everything in order to force it to fit, and even then it makes no sense

 

[Wolfie557]

So yeah White...

Why did you poison me?

Maven was supposed to die as far as I knew. Oppo didn't wanna posion cos risky town doc kill. Praline risk she could be immune to poisons herself and like I said dunno if she is mafia antidote anymore after the last flips. Vaan is hard to believe would be Mafiafor 5th time in a row and is bussing on 2 mafia members and asked him to lynch me today. So it was you or yellow or praline so since yellow was informative role he was more likely to die so your the insurance policy if maven wasn't mafia and we had no idea who is in the day either.

But 90% mainly thought it would be fun if I posion you after you recharge it been waiting to do it for a while! XD

That said I shoulda poisoned vaan. His reaction would have been much better and I tend to trust anyone who fully trusts me like him and that's why I often get used by the mafia which might explain why he wanted me to poison oppo or praline ( I think can't remember the latter option for sure)

 

[Wolfie557]

Yes it was one beep beep.

 

[Wolfie557]

Vote Vaan

Is my current thought but don't want a proper lynchlock lmao

Or maybe praline oppo idk let me watch. I gave all info I knew but if there is anything else ask away lol.

Love you too vaan

 

[vaanrose]

Also, White claimed to see 1 action on me night 2, not 2.

Unvote: Maven

Genuine error.

Vaan, in what game are mafia not able to do their actions + the kill?

I've never been able to use the kill and use an action on the same night. The nightkill has always counted as the action.

 

[Wolfie557]

^ xxxx

Pretend I edited this at the end

 

[Wolfie557]

Unvote: Maven

Genuine error.



I've never been able to use the kill and use an action on the same night. The nightkill has always counted as the action.

What other action do you have?