Falcon's Dair can connect through a platform (+vid)

[Zeallyx]

Falcon's Dair can connect through a platform, and with this I mean, hit an opponent whith falcon's Dair while they are under the platform and falcon is on the platform.

The video is found here: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=tOw5Vnk7x5o

The Dair can hit medium hight/tall opponentsthrough a platform.

One has to endure the Dairs landing lag to be able to hit opponents who are under the platform you are on, but as the Dairs ending lag has some IASA frames near the end, you can follow up pretty fast and this may even lead to new combo's

Platforms it works on, on tall (examples of tall opponents: snake, ganondorf) opponents:
Left and right platform on battlefield
moving platform on smashville
platform on halbert
platforms on pokemon stadium 1&2
lower platform on delfino plaza
Platforms on lylat cruise
platform on yoshi's island (when it is diagnally turned)
platforms on norfair
Platform on frigate orpheon

Platforms it works on, on medium hight characters (example of medium hight character: sonic) opponents:

Left and right platform on battlefield
platform on halbert
platform on yoshi's island (when it is diagnally turned)
platforms on norfair

This is great for punishing opponents who try to attack you from under the platform.

This does not work on small(er) characters, like olimar.

 

[Player-3]

O_O
amazing.

does AC Dair work like this? if so...

:D

 

[Zeallyx]

O_O
amazing.

does AC Dair work like this? if so...

:D

Unfortunatly, the Lagless Dair cannot hit opponents under the platform you are on.
One has to do the Dair at a time the ending lag is unavoidable to hit an opponent under a platform you are on.

Regardless, this can still lead to new combo's, due to the IASA frames near the end of the Dair's landing lag and/or the hitstun of the Dair (as the Dair is known to combo, this may put you in a position to combo the Dair into smashes/tilts)

 

[victra♥]

wow, i'm impressed. I would have never thought. O.o

Good find.

 

[Camalange]

Hm.

This is pretty win. Good find.

 

[Jim Morrison]

yay for platforms.

 

[Ayaz18]

nice, actually useful to note.

EDIT: wait......... this was in melee too, G-reg punch anyone?


lol 10stonerreactions

 

[Dxkid]

Nice Find TKONTK

this is pretty damm useful

 

[Ville]

I think this is rather situational, most Utilts/Usmashes have more priority or more range than your Dair.

Nice if enemy doesn't know about it/is dumb.

 

[Zeallyx]

I think this is rather situational, most Utilts/Usmashes have more priority or more range than your Dair.

Nice if enemy doesn't know about it/is dumb.

This is actually more usefull/less situational then you give it credit for. Especially on battlefield.
Most people tend to attack enemies on platforms, as it is mostly safe (we falcon's Utilt/Uair or even Fair enemies on platforms) and this can punish them, not neccisarily during their attack, this can also punish after lag.

 

[RebazTalei]

"This is great for punishing opponents who try to attack you from under the platform.

This does not work on small(er) characters, like olimar. "

having second toughts on Snake's U-tilt, so dunno.

 

[Player-3]

snakes utilt doesnt count, its broken... it cancels a fully charged aura sphere

 

[SpaceFalcon]

This is AMAZING.

Falcon for TOP TIER.

 

[SmashBrother2008]

I thought I saw this happen to me a few times on Mario circuit and battle field. Nice find.

 

[victra♥]

I'm going to talk to the 64 and melee smashers and see if they can incorporate this into their gameplay. It seems like something that could be useful in all 3 smash games.

I'm not sure if Falcon's dair hitbox is that huge in 64 and melee though. Either way, if it does work, this will help out the melee falcon pros dramatically.

 

[Ayaz18]

lol Victra

look at my edit .......nobody knows a G-reg punch.......fail

 

[Marshie]

This move is really useful... but I thought this was old news...

 

[Player-3]

nice, actually useful to note.

EDIT: wait......... this was in melee too, G-reg punch anyone?


lol 10stonerreactions

Inb4nolcancelingandlackofhitstun
I know.....didn't see your edit until you flamed the melee virgins

 

[victra♥]

lol Victra

look at my edit .......nobody knows a G-reg punch.......fail

Wow you're right. It seems as though G-Reg found this thread and somehow traveled years into the past, seemingly incorporating this technique years earlier. I wonder if any of the other falcon pros did this.

ToKneeOrNotToKnee, you might want to name this technique before one of those other players do. Like the "TKONTK Dip" or "Chainchoking."

 

[Alphicans]

Victra is just being an *** guys. He's right though, why do you people make these threads? Especially since this was known in the other two games.

 

[Kinzer]

Think of it as something new to the new people who weren't around the time this was figured out.

Also some of the veterans could've forgotten about this, so it's good to remind people this exists.

I sure as Hell wouldn't have known about this had I not been given a link from 2K.

Also Victra's sig is mesmorizing.

 

[Psychoace]

I don't think everyone knew if it was possible in brawl since you couldn't l cancel and the hitbox is harder to control in brawl.

 

[GSUB]

is this thread serious??

why was this made?

lol

 

[Ayaz18]

Victra is just being an *** guys. He's right though, why do you people make these threads? Especially since this was known in the other two games.

yeah, I know I forgot about this for a couple minutes cause I was A - high and also in BRALWZ we have to use the Auto tools to make effective strategies.

And knee generally makes pointless threads


I know..........

>_>

 

[LuLLo]

I`ve been doing this for quite some time, but never really got a follow-up from it, I'll toy with it tomorrow, thnx 4 the reminder

 

[Darxmarth23]

We just have to watch out for the priority of the person below.

Im scared of marth and snakes up tilt. Even something awesome like this can be easily countered.

It does ad to my mind games arsenal though.

 

[kong_korps]

im not trying to be an as*shole, but i thought this was common sense?
srry

 

[Wogrim]

I don't think everyone knew if it was possible in brawl since you couldn't l cancel and the hitbox is harder to control in brawl.

This.

I knew it was possible in Melee, but I thought someone had posted (months and months ago) that it's not possible in Brawl.

 

[Tomacawk]

I don't think I've seen a bigger display of stupidity in my entire life--brawl kids take the ****ing cake
I don't even know what to say. I'm speechless.

 

[tsetse]

So you have to double jump????????????
And you can airdodge out of it????????

Fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!