Falcon vs Jman is impossible?

[Shaeman111]

Critique... i need falcon help!
(and i need to know counterpicks too)

Footage from Herb 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9WE63W0iOY

 

[Skip2MaLoo]

not bad, i liked when you falcon punched him lol

 

[DrewB008]

jman cant handle my falcon

 

[P.C. Jona]

you should have counter picked yoshi story

best stage ever

you did really good tho

jman has beast di

he should have died from the falcon punch, and the tech chase knee after

but he didnt

 

[Hax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSD5vYD1s3I

it can be done

 

[DrewB008]

about halfway through that video i was expecting to think "wow that was really pathetic on jmans part to squander that lead"

but it turns out you earned that **** with that hot combo, even if jman did choke bigtime on some edgeguards haha

 

[(*Jman*)]

lol at this thread


come to think of it i dont remember the last time i lost to cf in tourney lol

 

[Roneblaster]

hi im j-man

im really good at this game.

 

[JFox]

lol at this thread


come to think of it i dont remember the last time i lost to cf in tourney lol

i do

his name is sensei, i hear he's pretty good

 

[Strong Badam]

if we're talking single matches then darkrain
but a set that's just unfair, fox is too good.

 

[JPOBS]

you need to read him better. granted its jman so he has teh mindgames but you miss read him on tech chases a lot.

 

[unknown522]

high level falcon vs high level fox isn't that bad. If you are mid - low level with falcon, you will get *****.

You have to kill fox out of a single hit, seriously.

 

[ChRed2AKrisp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSD5vYD1s3I

it can be done

you forgot the match that came right after that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOx8Qnmfxz4&feature=related

:D

also, shaeman, I don't mute city was a very good CP. Fox is one of the few characters who has no problem recovery wise on mute, he has no landing lag from his up-B and he can shine stall for the stage to come back. I think DK64 is a better CP, you still get that huge stage but it's harder for him to sweetspot, the barrel can help falcon get back from those shine spikes, and you can knee him out of the barrel.

 

[Scar]

high level falcon vs high level fox isn't that bad.

false

the only reason people say this is... well i dont even know. fox is a beast and unless fox players make punishable tech mistakes or bad decisions the matchup is like 80/20

fortunately there are few fast AND smart foxes out there

 

[choknater]

fox is sooooo broken

 

[BunBun]

No, JMan is.

 

[cF=)]

Nair to shine with good spacing is, actually.

Don't forget the robotic Bair edgeguard too.

 

[BigD!!!]

there really is a separate tier for top fox than just high fox though

high level fox vs high level falcon really isnt too bad, its just that if both players are near the top of the game, such as if its jmans fox, the chances of falcon winning drops to very, very slim

i guess im just saying theres a difference between what most people consider high level and the actual peak of the game. everybody would consider foxes like colbol, tink, chillin, and raynex as high level foxes, but falcons keep up with those players pretty often

at the top level, falcon will actually have to be killing foxes out of a single hit like unknown says, which realistically involves at least 2 or 3 guesses. chances drop down pretty low of that happening enough to win the match, let alone the set

oh and i watched the video and i'd say it would help if you stopped just throwing out b moves, but i suspect you really posted this just so we'd see that falcon punch

 

[Shaeman111]

You read me like a book

 

[null55]

lol it def was cool though.

 

[~Hu~]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z80kR5tcGY

Possible, but it's darkrain.

 

[victra♥]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z80kR5tcGY

Possible, but it's darkrain.

lmao at that commentary. I swear to god.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z80kR5tcGY

Possible, but it's darkrain.

If Darkrain landed that final knee for the 4-stock....

I don't even know.

 

[Shaeman111]

Falcon would be banned in tourney.

 

[Proverbs]

fox is sooooo broken

Yeah, I know. I went to Gamestop to see if I could get a refund.

 

[practice_mAn]

hey proverbs I love your sig man

 

[tubes]

there really is a separate tier for top fox than just high fox though

high level fox vs high level falcon really isnt too bad, its just that if both players are near the top of the game, such as if its jmans fox, the chances of falcon winning drops to very, very slim

i guess im just saying theres a difference between what most people consider high level and the actual peak of the game. everybody would consider foxes like colbol, tink, chillin, and raynex as high level foxes, but falcons keep up with those players pretty often

at the top level, falcon will actually have to be killing foxes out of a single hit like unknown says, which realistically involves at least 2 or 3 guesses. chances drop down pretty low of that happening enough to win the match, let alone the set

oh and i watched the video and i'd say it would help if you stopped just throwing out b moves, but i suspect you really posted this just so we'd see that falcon punch

I think Colbol is better than you think.

Also I love how in Jman vs Darkrain, Jman is so perplexed by his encounter with a Falcon who can sweetspot the ledge that he assumes his downsmash ghost hit or some **** and attempts it a second and third time.

 

[BigD!!!]

i think colbol is really really good

he also loses to darkrain every time, and barely even beat me last time i played him

hes a very high level fox that falcons can keep up with, exactly like i said

 

[Stratford]

but i suspect you really posted this just so we'd see that falcon punch

I called this too.