Social Falcon CHAT! The Captain Falcon Social Thread

[teluoborg]

Bair is safe especially if you autocancel it. And it autocancels stupidly early. Also Bair always sends people behind you, even if you hit from the front, and it's awesome for stagespiking.

And since we're dumping knowledge you can ledge drop, jump airdodge and A cancel your airdodge for a smooth landing.

Also @ Dekar173 I used to watch your lol stream, abusing Rengar bugs and stuff. It was pretty fun and it's cool to know you're going Falcon for smash 4.

 

[Lionman]

I won Gamergy

 

[BigLord]

I won Gamergy

And you just announce it like THAT?! Holy crap man, congrats! You've got the €€€ now, buy yourself something nice!
we need to play each other again

This is also huge news for Falcon tournament placing! And on a related note, Falcon's a really popular character now, since he's got the style AND the skills to be very viable.

Expecting a lot of newcomers to this board!

 

[Dekar173]

I won Gamergy

Show us some vids when they're uploaded!



Also, after borrowing a set up I've found some stuff out about the new 'rage' effect.

First, it's a flat amount of knockback that is added to certain moves. It never, ever scales beyond that. This means that moves have 2 different knockbacks. Normal knockback, and raged knockback.

Second, it's dependent upon both your own percent, AND your opponent's percent. It SEEMS to be in intervals of 25%, but I really don't know as I haven't been able to look at enough cases to determine that as 100% fact.

A few examples to illustrate this:

0 charge Fsmash when Falcon is at 0%, and enemy at 250% = rage knockback begins

Fully charged fsmash when Falcon is at 0%, and enemy at 50% = rage knockback

SideB at 100%CF and 150%enemy = rage knockback

1 Special case scenario is any character at 0%, they will NEVER take rage knockback (meaning rage has something to do with the SCALING of a move's knockback, and nothing to do with its base knockback).



I haven't gotten to test it along with staling and see if THAT effects it at all, BUT for now just know that uair takes forever to receive rage, which is great news for our combo game, and a lot of what victra has been experimenting with DOES NOT reach the threshold for rage knockbacks until Falcon's roughly 125%, meaning memorizing combo %s against certain characters is extremely viable (as long as you're taking into account different forms of DI).



I'm not entirely sure of what the pattern is regarding whether rage will work or not, but it's basically a yes or no switch. It takes CF's %, says if enemy% = X+ then rage, if not then no rage.

 

[BigLord]

I've always thought that the rage effect activates when the player is "fuming". heh. But I had no idea that it had a fixed knockback. That's cool to know, maybe new combos/possibilities could come from this.

 

[Dekar173]

No the particle effect really has nothing to do with it. It's just a cute effect they added to show you're high %

 

[teluoborg]

Yeah I remember Sakurai saying that the smoke appears when you reach 100%. Great find Dekar, I'll try to do some more research on my side because that's definitely interesting.

 

[JingleJangleJamil]

Hello! I am new to the Falcon boards, or at least sort of new. I never really do much here until recently. I never really used Falcon in Brawl, because he just didn't feel fun to use for me. I was a little kid and unaware of competitive Melee back in the day, and for 64 I have never played N64 in my life. If you want an explanation why, I am only 15 years old. I don't use Falcon in Sm4sh because he is good, I use him because Falcon is a man of honor, and he is super fun to use. I have been using Falcon since about when Smash 3DS came out,but I didn't consider him my secondary until like last week. Well, seeing some of your posts you guys have you seem like nice people.

 

[Lionman]

Im back and tired

Finals were streamed but Nintendo took all the WiiUs with the Replays, maybe they will upload the finals soon, it was vs Greward a really good Megaman-Villager mainer (I shared housing with him), Marcbri was able to get to the finals but he decided to use Pit (He uses Diddy too) and lost against El_Pitikla, a DDD mainer

Spanish Thread http://www.smashbrosspain.com/index.php/foros/viewtopic.php/p,162489/#p162489

 

[teluoborg]

Holy dayum you won 800€ that's some crazy cash prize. Tell me next time there's this kind of tournament, I think some of the french smashers would be interested (me included ofc).

 

[BigLord]

He DID tell us, right here in this thread! A whole month (or something) in advance

Just read the spanish thread, so many people still can't believe a Falcon actually won a major tournament, it's a dream come true

I'm so jealous, too. I wish I could attend a gigantic Smash Tournament like that one... we don't have that here in Portugal.

 

[Fangblade]

Howdy, we're discussing the TL vs. Captain Falcon match-up over at Toon Link boards this week! If you feel like adding your 2 cents and contributing to the discussion please do. You can include w/e in your post but don't forget to add a MU ratio on who has the advantage.

Here's the link for your convenience:
http://smashboards.com/threads/toon...eek-3-falcon-charizard-dark-pit-diddy.378737/

 

[HFlash]

So after playing Smash 4 for about two weeks now, I am really set on C.F. Although he has limited safe options, his combo game and sexy appeal makes him the ideal main. However, I am still trying to weed out a secondary. Looking between Fox, Yoshi, and Shiek to cover Falcon's bad Match ups i.e Ness & DHD Who do you guys recommend between those 3 (or possibly others).

 

[HFlash]

Im back and tired

Finals were streamed but Nintendo took all the WiiUs with the Replays, maybe they will upload the finals soon, it was vs Greward a really good Megaman-Villager mainer (I shared housing with him), Marcbri was able to get to the finals but he decided to use Pit (He uses Diddy too) and lost against El_Pitikla, a DDD mainer

Spanish Thread http://www.smashbrosspain.com/index.php/foros/viewtopic.php/p,162489/#p162489

Congrats man! Marcbri is a real man not using easily the strongest character in the game atm.

 

[Lionman]

He DID tell us, right here in this thread! A whole month (or something) in advance

Just read the spanish thread, so many people still can't believe a Falcon actually won a major tournament, it's a dream come true

I'm so jealous, too. I wish I could attend a gigantic Smash Tournament like that one... we don't have that here in Portugal.

I was like: Ok i won. Didnt believe it haha, actually i trained so hard to do my best but i didnt expect to win, i had a good pool and a decent bracket, i only lost a match vs PFO a Sonic main (I ate a full charged F-Smash in the first match and got gimped because i failed a tech) so bad Nintendo took all the WiiUs, ill post the finals in the video thread if they upload them (Were streamed).

BTW Greward won 12 Amiibos in Side-Events "I hadnt an amiibo for the amiibo tourney"

I have 5 Amiibos now because my Playoffs victory (Online tournament) they are fun

 

[HFlash]

And you just announce it like THAT?! Holy crap man, congrats! You've got the €€€ now, buy yourself something nice!
we need to play each other again

This is also huge news for Falcon tournament placing! And on a related note, Falcon's a really popular character now, since he's got the style AND the skills to be very viable.

Expecting a lot of newcomers to this board!

Your expectations are well met! C.F takes about 10% of the total vote in that poll

 

[BigLord]

BTW Greward won 12 Amiibos in Side-Events "I hadnt an amiibo for the amiibo tourney"

I have 5 Amiibos now because my Playoffs victory (Online tournament) they are fun

That's a crapload of amiibos, haha. I wish I could have a pair of them... (to leave the game on overnight and unlock EVERYTHING easily).

 

[JingleJangleJamil]

So after playing Smash 4 for about two weeks now, I am really set on C.F. Although he has limited safe options, his combo game and sexy appeal makes him the ideal main. However, I am still trying to weed out a secondary. Looking between Fox, Yoshi, and Shiek to cover Falcon's bad Match ups i.e Ness & DHD Who do you guys recommend between those 3 (or possibly others).

I don't thin you should go for any of those 3 choices, because they are all rushdown characters just like Falcon. For a secondary you should probably go for something with a very different play style from Falcon.

 

[Grass]

So after playing Smash 4 for about two weeks now, I am really set on C.F. Although he has limited safe options, his combo game and sexy appeal makes him the ideal main. However, I am still trying to weed out a secondary. Looking between Fox, Yoshi, and Shiek to cover Falcon's bad Match ups i.e Ness & DHD Who do you guys recommend between those 3 (or possibly others).

all viable options.

 

[Lionman]

Probably going to France next year for Sm4sh, im talking with sponsors but nothing confirmed

Sm4sh is confirmed for the next Gamergy

 

[BigLord]

The next Gamergy will be in Madrid too, right?

Dammit I've got to start saving up, @ teluoborg you better come, too!

 

[drogoth232]

New to this side of the site, but not new to smash.

That being said, I have a rather tough time closing out kills without Raptor Boost and Falcon Kick. My opponents DI out of the Up Throw->Knee or I just miss the timing by a hair and get punished.

The only reliable kill move I seem to be able to pull off is DSmash or FSmash with a miraculous read.

Any tips?

 

[BigLord]

Up Throw->Knee

There's your problem! D-throw should be your combo throw, not up-throw.

 

[teluoborg]

Probably going to France next year for Sm4sh, im talking with sponsors but nothing confirmed

Sm4sh is confirmed for the next Gamergy

Are you coming to Cannes ? There's also a 1 day tournament on dec 28th if you want.

Also nice for Gamergy, please post a link when there's a thread for it.

@ BigLord you betcha.

 

[Lionman]

Are you coming to Cannes ? There's also a 1 day tournament on dec 28th if you want.

Also nice for Gamergy, please post a link when there's a thread for it.

@ BigLord you betcha.

Finals will be upload next week maybe, they are uploading League of Legends now (The biggest game there).

As I said, im talking with a sponsor right now
https://twitter.com/PlayToWinClub

Yes, their money comes from YP so its a good sponsor for a C.Falcon

 

[drogoth232]

There's your problem! D-throw should be your combo throw, not up-throw.

Oh, whoops. I meant to type down throw. Heavens knows why I put up throw.

I use Down Throw to get them in a favorable position for Aerials, but I just seem to always get the timing slightly off. Always an inch away from that Knee lol

 

[BigLord]

You probably need to buffer it slightly more. If you don't, it'll be a difficult hit.

@ Lionman you're going to work for the Youporn spanish team!? Haha that's brilliant! And I completely agree, very fitting of a Falcon main!

 

[Lionman]

You probably need to buffer it slightly more. If you don't, it'll be a difficult hit.

@ Lionman you're going to work for the Youporn spanish team!? Haha that's brilliant! And I completely agree, very fitting of a Falcon main!

As i said its not confirmed but they look really interested in Supporting Smash

 

[Grass]

Oh, whoops. I meant to type down throw. Heavens knows why I put up throw.

I use Down Throw to get them in a favorable position for Aerials, but I just seem to always get the timing slightly off. Always an inch away from that Knee lol

don't worry about the knee, focus on Nairs, Dairs and Bairs.

 

[TheGreatBrawler]

don't worry about the knee, focus on Nairs, Dairs and Bairs.

No, I would practice with the knee, it is a very vital move for Captain Falcon that you should use in air most of the time (or his dair). Work on timing for knee and you will do amazing with Captain Falcon, everything takes time and practice. Just like mastering a character.

 

[drogoth232]

don't worry about the knee, focus on Nairs, Dairs and Bairs.

I usually chain Down Throw into UAir Strings, and maybe a Nair. I've been practicing more often with Nair followups after throws.

No, I would practice with the knee, it is a very vital move for Captain Falcon that you should use in air most of the time (or his dair). Work on timing for knee and you will do amazing with Captain Falcon, everything takes time and practice. Just like mastering a character.

I've noticed that I can't dash-short hop-nair-fastfall and get both hits, which I relied on in Melee/Brawl for approaches and combos. Any other alternatives?

I've started dash grabbing (dashing, waiting for the animation to the dashstop, and grabbing) and it's done me better than straight up dash grabbing (I end up missing because 2fast4me). Dash Attack approaches make me cry, but it's the only other alternative that comes to mind.

I remember watching shorthop into fast fall uair, which I've been practicing. But I'm nowhere comfortable doing it in a PvP setting.

 

[TheGreatBrawler]

I usually chain Down Throw into UAir Strings, and maybe a Nair. I've been practicing more often with Nair followups after throws.



I've noticed that I can't dash-short hop-nair-fastfall and get both hits, which I relied on in Melee/Brawl for approaches and combos. Any other alternatives?

I've started dash grabbing (dashing, waiting for the animation to the dashstop, and grabbing) and it's done me better than straight up dash grabbing (I end up missing because 2fast4me). Dash Attack approaches make me cry, but it's the only other alternative that comes to mind.

I remember watching shorthop into fast fall uair, which I've been practicing. But I'm nowhere comfortable doing it in a PvP setting.

You could just do dash then a short hop then do the knee on your opponent, or dash then short hop over your opponent then do bair. If you can't do dash short hop then nair...

 

[Grass]

You could just do dash then a short hop then do the knee on your opponent, or dash then short hop over your opponent then do bair. If you can't do dash short hop then nair...

you want him to try to be like silentwolf? xD

I usually chain Down Throw into UAir Strings, and maybe a Nair. I've been practicing more often with Nair followups after throws.

That's not a bad idea considering where your opponent ends up but Nair is probably a better choice early damage.

 

[Lionman]

Pics from Raw´s Camera (My pal from Logroño)

http://imgur.com/a/GObMW#62

 

[teluoborg]

lmao @ everyone posing like their character and Lion getting (maybe) sponsored by youporn. Can this tournament get anymore fantastic ?

 

[BigLord]

That freaking group picture... I'm so jealous right now, that tournament seemed like a dream come true

 

[Stafy]

I got my Wii U and Smash. Ye ye ye ~

 

[Grass]

Welp, I've tried my best. I can't land the knee worth crap. I think my timing is off for falcon.

 

[Player 7]

You must recover! =d

https://gifyoutube.com/gif/Kdwe0q

 

[teluoborg]

Not bad.