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Falco... top tier in both Melee and Brawl.

Yuna

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Because the makers of the game are twits, obviously. For Brawl, they have a chaingrab that's near universal and made his lasers better. Read, they made Falco's lasers better.

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saviorslegacy

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Because the makers of the game are twits, obviously. For Brawl, they have a chaingrab that's near universal and made his lasers better. Read, they made Falco's lasers better.

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I don't believe his lasers are better. They are worse because of stale moves. He recieves stale moves after the first laser connects.
 

Gishnak

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DDD's B-air is only good offstage 90% of the time. His F-tilt is good, but not amazing in anything except range. His projectile is OK. And it's extremely obvious when he's going to use it.

G&W doesn't rely on back air as much as he relies on juggling his opponent effectively and punishing as they approach with D-tilt, Up-B, and other attacks.

G&W takes more skill to use because he has a huge emphasis on smart juggling with U-air, Up-B, N-air, and U-throw regrabs. He has to be smart with charged Smashes too, knowing when his opponent will dodge and when he can be near them.
I don't think you understand good DeDeDe players. B-air only good offstage 90% of the time?!? His Bair is one of the best bairs in the game, comes out quick, lasts for a good amount, and can be combined with fastfall and repeated with DeDeDe's numerous jumps.

His projectile is good, if thrown at the right range after an opponent attacks/airdodges/whatever, gordo kills galore...
 

Denzi

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I don't believe his lasers are better. They are worse because of stale moves. He recieves stale moves after the first laser connects.
Wrong!!

It's the exact opposite. One of the reasons the're better is stale moves because each laser hit refreshes his other moves. If you're using lasers for purely damage, you shouldn't be maining Falco.

Other reasons they're better include: SHDL, SHSL, Laserlock, and Silent laser -> move of your choice (pretty much).
 

§witch

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No, he's way more predictable. His entire strategy is shieldcamping into a grab and hoping for a lucky U-tilt or edgeguard.
Predictable? No; not the right word. Is sheild camping punishable? Of course not, is bair spam? Why, yes it is!

The only reason he's better is because he has good shieldcamping (chaingrabs on over half the cast wtf and B-throw does 16%). And his edgeguarding is also one of the best in the game. He's a very simple character. More simple by far than G&W. It's just the little he is able to do is extremely ********.
You can't really compare GnW and DDD except for the fact that DDD is better. But really; every character who isn't the IC's is simple.
G&W is predictable because most of his strategy is brickwalls, juggling, edgeguarding, and reading dodges.
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saviorslegacy

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Wrong!!

It's the exact opposite. One of the reasons the're better is stale moves because each laser hit refreshes his other moves. If you're using lasers for purely damage, you shouldn't be maining Falco.

Other reasons they're better include: SHDL, SHSL, Laserlock, and Silent laser -> move of your choice (pretty much).
Hmmmmm.... well I didn't think of it like that. I was comparing lag, speed and damage. I didn't think of the fact that it grew more uses.... and I'm the one to forget that! xD *looks at own sig*
 
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