Falco Social Thread

[GHNeko]

how 2 multishine. I can never keep the 2nd one grounded.

 

[Vixen]

practice moar

 

[a vehicle]

how 2 multishine. I can never keep the 2nd one grounded.

Change R to special

 

[GHNeko]

No can do. Default controls. I use R for WDing and L for L-Canceling.

 

[DrinkingFood]

Try using Y for special and B for jump
don't question just do it

 

[GHNeko]

...

i dont even ...

what

<_>

 

[DrinkingFood]

see that's why I said don't question
cause droppin' too much knowledge on someone can make their brain hurt if they try to think about it

 

[GHNeko]

default controls only bro

 

[DrinkingFood]

default = De Fault

 

[SpiderMad]

I created a multi-shine video that I only showed to a few friends, I'm going to try and remake it sometime before I make it public. I have no clue how to record my hands AND the screen at the same time, that's my current issue: I have a Camera with a cheap 5 inch tripod to record the TV but only a phone that has no support to record my hands so I have to put a Kleenex box in front of it to make it stand up, so I have no clue how to record my hands with the phone.

Here's this guy's though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCMLHdf-1R0
My method is LIKE the first one he does, but better , because it doesn't take your hand off the controller at all: and it's more derived from how I learned to do the Samus to ZSS taunt trick the best way. His methods (at least the ones shown) are for Fox's harder multi-shine AND for just the hell of spamming it (so he takes his grip off the controller usually to do it even with the first, which IMO can hurt your play).

Until I remake my video though the method is basically just putting your thumb (my thumb is medium size, but one of my friends I showed it to said his thumb is smaller and had trouble doing it) between B and Y and pivoting it between the two buttons without lifting it at all using the twitching from your hand (wrist). Whatever feels best to you I guess, just keep in mind you don't need to take your thumb and move it to the other button back and forth like you would for any other type of button combination press: the B and Y are close enough to just press them through thumb rotation (It's slightly harder on White controllers since they put a little more space between them, one of the many reasons I think they suck).

Eli's method is to JC out of the shine using Control stick

 

[Vashimus]

While P:M kept these features they can now be used in a lot more scenarios (side-b edge cancel or mario's new up-b wall-jump)

I think the only thing falco can edge cancel in melee is up-b
And wall jumps in melee are not nearly as viable as they're in P:M

Mario could wall-jump out of his Up-B in Melee as well.

Admittedly, the Project M website needs to update the character overviews to 2.5

 

[JKJ]

I play Falco in both Melee and P:M, and honestly P:M Falco just feels wrong. I mess up my SHL's, my Reverse SHL's, my combos, everything, even against fox on FD. Idk what it is, he just feels...clunkier.
Just my two cents though. If P:M felt exactly like Melee it's all I would play, just sayin'.

 

[SpiderMad]

I disagree, his laser game feels especially better in P:M. I say this as someone who played Melee Falco dittos extensively with my friend before v1 of P:M was out. How good is your laser game in Melee?

What if you recorded your best laser control/retreating lasers and all that in Melee, then I recorded my best in P:M: and then mine is better than yours? that makes my opinion better than yours right? Wanna do that? =)


The only thing that isn't the same or better is the meatyness of hitboxes/moves in Melee, where they somehow felt like they packed more of a punch

 

[DrinkingFood]

thats just the sound effects playing with your head mad.
His lasers should be exactly the same except with a later timing.

 

[GunBlaze]

How so? I'm trying to learn Falco in Melee and P:M, but how much is the timing difference?

 

[standardtoaster]

the lasers come out on the same frame. the timing for fastfalling it is slightly different

 

[GunBlaze]

About 1, 2 frames?

 

[standardtoaster]

Something like that. It shouldn't take too long to adjust your ff timing.

 

[GunBlaze]

Something like that. It shouldn't take too long to adjust your ff timing.

Yeah, but it would disrupt me in Melee. Plus, I can't SHL without Phantasming. Help?

 

[Strong Badam]

You could always choose another character. There are like 30 of them.

 

[GunBlaze]

You could always choose another character. There are like 30 of them.

33, StrongBad. And I'm a Pokemanz main.

 

[SpiderMad]

Practiced some P:M Falco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJxQVcCN1TI&feature=youtu.be
I did the same kind of thing with CF a while ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxaNbelxI_8
Also Falco benefits from this shine to JC throw thing http://youtu.be/87G-nPP4Njo

 

[Yakal]

lol silly pm falco

 

[JUGGERNAUT043]

Talk about Falco from Project M here!

mew2king is gay

 

[JUGGERNAUT043]

Where are the Falco's at? Falco is the 1st character that was choice for Sonic MU discussion @ sonic forums.

You guys shoud totally participate.

cause falco is blan, is good, always been good, hes just kinda blan now

 

[MarioNPinkie]

Man this thread has been very inactive whats up with that?

 

[tripwire]

Because Falco is Falco. Nothing new comes to mind. Gives this man a laser gun. Seriously what would you like to discuss towards Falco.

 

[wza]

i was wondering if any of you can help me with shdl. i can shl 100% of the time my problem is that i cant short hop high enough to do the first laser. i can only full hop or short hop, im playing on dolphin with a ps3 im thinking this might be the problem...

 

[standardtoaster]

Falco can't SHDL. Fox can.

 

[MarioNPinkie]

Because Falco is Falco. Nothing new comes to mind. Gives this man a laser gun. Seriously what would you like to discuss towards Falco.

At least some combos for starters since im trying to work on my falco

 

[Strong Badam]

dair shine dair shine dair shine utilt dair shine bair edgeguard with your 1/3rd of a second spike

 

[cheese619]

So, I'm a melee falco main and I'm having a lot of trouble Isai-dropping in P:M with Falco. Isai-dropping is something I hit 95% of the time in melee facing either way, but I am not nearly as consistent in P:M and I feel like I have to input the drop way later. Is anyone else having this issue? I don't think it's in my head

 

[GunBlaze]

Does anyone find P:M Falco easier to maneuver than Melee Falco? ._.

 

[cheese619]

Hm, I feel like he flows better/moves more smoothly in melee but I also feel like some things are easier to perform in P:M, for example the timing window in waveshining feels much more leniant. +he has more movement options in P:M because of wavebouncing etc.

 

[GunBlaze]

I have trouble pillaring with Falco in Melee, but in P:M it's like, I don't know, too easy ._.

 

[cheese619]

Alright I just messed around a lot in both games testing things. One thing I am 100% sure is different is that in melee if Falco shines in the air and then turns around in shine before jump cancelling, there are some frames where you cannot jump cancel. This doesn't exist in p:m, I tried about 20 different timings and things with different turn arounds in shine and every time the jc came out where it wouldn't melee. I am certain that this is the case. Furthermore by messing with the cancel window of shine, waveshines feel much more lenient, I am not 100% sure that they are but it felt to me like timings that I performed that didn't result in a successful wave shine in melee, always worked in p:m. Could any devs confirm this and let us know if this was intentional and/or the reasoning behind this. Ty

 

[standardtoaster]

you can jump out of the shine turn around, yeah

 

[cheese619]

you can jump out of the shine turn around, yeah

In p:m right?

 

[standardtoaster]

yes I meant in pm

 

[tripwire]

Shouldn't there be like a Falco MU's and Video thread.