"Failure to Launch"

[ook]

Your problem may be with your mains. Try switching it up and finding a new character. Even though marth and falco are high tier, you may just not "fit" with their playstyles, and would use a different character better.


That's what happened with me. I used to main DDD, but I felt the same kinda "failure to launch" feeling. Then I switched to DK, and I'm wayyyy better than I ever was with DDD. DDD was just too slow for me




That may be the problem if you're putting all your practice and energy into a character you're just naturally not good with.
Instead of this whole debate about wifi....

 

[Nysyarc]

I love how the only stabs people take at my posts are questioning my own ability to play offline without even knowing me or ever having seen me play. That or waxing eloquent about how they can't stand lag.

Oh, and if you read it properly, you would have noticed that I typed "best Ike in my city, and possibly in my province".

Also, refusing to reply to Janitor's post because you deemed his last sentence "immature" is very, very dumb.

Why? Do I owe him something?

 

[SuSa]

Ally and dabuz.

Ally played offline with his brother Holy, and went to tournaments often and placed. WiFi helped him become better, he was not great because of it however.

Please give me some results for Dabuz. Last I heard he had a very twisted view about Olimar due to online and has recently changed many opinions due to playing some offline.

EG:
"We **** snake hands down"
to
"matchups evenish"

EDIT:
I'm surprised nobody has realized that it is literally impossible to be great soley because of Wifi, so they keep trying to answer it. It wasn't meant to be answered because you cannot determine if someone is great on WiFi, they need offline results. 1 offline result could be a fluke, they'd need several. After several they have enough offline experience to not be great because of WiFi, but arguably attending tournaments. (Unless they just owned only major (70+ people or something) tournaments since their offline debut or something....which I think nobody has done)

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

Well, that was kind of what I was saying. How many serious Ike mains are in your city or even your province. Is your region of Canada some kind of Ike hub?

Also, it's not like his post was flaming or anything. He obviously put some effort into post. Throwing away all of his points because of his last sentence seems counter-productive to your cause.

 

[SuSa]

The sad part is his cause is the same as mine.

But people just keep ignoring me to make fun of his (rather poor here and there, but overall pretty solid) argument.

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

I'm not trying to disproves his argument though. I just wanted to know why that particular point was used. Though I suppose 1 shaky point in a debate is nothing if the rest is solid.

Anyway, most of this doesn't seem to be helping the blog maker at all haha

Though, I think you had it spot on when you said the game can be learned on wifi but only to a point.

 

[Nysyarc]

Well, that was kind of what I was saying. How many serious Ike mains are in your city or even your province. Is your region of Canada some kind of Ike hub?

Also, it's not like his post was flaming or anything. He obviously put some effort into post. Throwing away all of his points because of his last sentence seems counter-productive to your cause.

How many Ikes show up at any tournament? There were three Ike mains (not including myself) and several people who used him as a secondary or during friendlies at the most recent tournament. Anyways I'm not even sure where you're trying to go with this. The fact that I was able to do well in a tournament against various different characters (most of which were bad match-ups for Ike) and players who had been playing offline much longer than myself, couldn't have been luck.

I'm not saying WiFi made me a pro overnight. I'm saying that my time playing WiFi for all those months was not wasted. I improved, and it showed at the tournament... where my brother who mains Falco did not do as well as I did. My brother basically just played me in offline matches from time to time but refused to play WiFi at all. Guess who ended up getting better? (And Falco vs. Ike is a 70-30 in Falco's favor... he used to beat me a lot when we were both scrubs).

But people just keep ignoring me to make fun of his (rather poor here and there, but overall pretty solid) argument.

Could be because you're a mod who's been here awhile and I'm (to quote choknater) "mr. April 2009 join date"

 

[SuSa]

It shouldn't matter if we basically have the same argument.


Date being here means nothing, I know some rather idiotic posters who have been here since before '05

 

[Nysyarc]

Date being here means nothing, I know some rather idiotic posters who have been here since before '05

It shouldn't, and yet you'd be surprised. Especially when it comes to discussion about serious things involving Brawl gameplay and whatnot. I've found a lot of people tend to make assumptions based on join date/post count. Credentials should be based solely on content and insight... but alas forums are never perfect.

 

[M.K]

It shouldn't, and yet you'd be surprised. Especially when it comes to discussion about serious things involving Brawl gameplay and whatnot. I've found a lot of people tend to make assumptions based on join date/post count. Credentials should be based solely on content and insight... but alas forums are never perfect.

If you are deterred by such posts, you definitely have not developed the competitive mindset.
You know what you do to "MarioIsCool" who says "Olawl, you have less than 9000 posts"?
Do you KNOW what you do?
You beat the **** out of them in Brawl! In a video game. (lol?)

Make your name known, don't let those stupid little stereotypical comments get the better of you. V.V
I quit maining Olimar after some guy told me that I was one of the worst Olimars he ever played about a month after Brawl released; however, after a few months, I went back to Olimar and started replaying him. You just have to denounce people like that.

 

[Nysyarc]

Oh I'm definitely not deterred by it. I usually just ignore it when people do stuff like that. My problem with the whole proving myself thing is that I live in Atlantic Canada and I quite frankly don't want to live in the United States (no offense to people living there). My only way of 'proving' anything is through local stuff and online stuff... and since few people take either of those seriously, you can understand my predicament.

Although as far as I'm concerned, the only person I need to prove anything to is myself. People can talk crap about me and then refuse to play me on WiFi all they want. It doesn't bother me because I know where I stand. They don't have to know.

 

[Dabuz]

Ally played offline with his brother Holy, and went to tournaments often and placed. WiFi helped him become better, he was not great because of it however.

Please give me some results for Dabuz. Last I heard he had a very twisted view about Olimar due to online and has recently changed many opinions due to playing some offline.

EG:
"We **** snake hands down"
to
"matchups evenish"

EDIT:
I'm surprised nobody has realized that it is literally impossible to be great soley because of Wifi, so they keep trying to answer it. It wasn't meant to be answered because you cannot determine if someone is great on WiFi, they need offline results. 1 offline result could be a fluke, they'd need several. After several they have enough offline experience to not be great because of WiFi, but arguably attending tournaments. (Unless they just owned only major (70+ people or something) tournaments since their offline debut or something....which I think nobody has done)

tournament ive placed in solely due to wifi:

http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=6187

http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=5173

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=248009

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=241881

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237587

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236646


for the most part, all my experience before these tournies came from wifi and ive beaten people like ninjalink, atomsk, jash, and some others solely due to it, while i only got first in 1 of these, my placings among NY and NJ's best considering where i got practice is impressive and shows wifi is really good

 

[MidnightAsaph]

I read the original post. If you can't make it to tournies and can't play with other players, you're only bet is playing on Wifi til you're completely used to it.

And it DOES all boil down to lag, especially if the player doesn't get used to it. Wifi changes the metagame. Again, especially if the player hasn't adapted. Point being, you're in a different enviroment playing offline than on. Habits change. This is something that I've talked to extensively with friends as well as smash players here on SWF. On Wifi, everything is slower. Your mentality towards Wifi is also a predominant factor.

It's different for everyone, ergo, it shouldn't be reliable universally. If you have adapted to Wifi and can get something from it, good for you.

And I wasn't talking about lag alone, Nysyarc. Brawl is a complex game, and sometimes inputs are skipped or forgotten. That's one reason I ditched Wifi (competitively). I do play for the hell of it though sometimes. Teams are kinda fun.

I hate to bring it up again, but some people just don't get Wifi. I know a good player that can compete well against the elite smashers, and he is GARBAGE online, and he actually plays a lot.

tl;dr
It's not the same for everyone. If it works for you, good for you. If not, ditch it.