Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

[Browny]

I made the most powerful cake in the universe, if you disagree, 1vs1 me, no items, New Island.

 

[Masonomace]

Yeah, gotta hand it to Sakurai for knowing how to be vague.

SmashBoards didn't even notify me that you quoted my post in Mewtwo's thread.

If SmashBoards isn't 100% bias towards me & Mewtwo's thread 2 minutes ago Idk what is.

 

[SaucyDancer]

I made the most powerful cake in the universe, if you disagree, 1vs1 me, no items, New Island.

That's beautiful. 10/10

 

[Nonno Umby]

Yet...Sakurai was the one who established the "does something that seems evil but is really doing something good" characteristic of Dedede (which is shown in the SSE) and had Meta Knight assist Kirby as well as challenge him in his debut to prepare him for facing Nightmare. While following Dedede's orders on keeping a piece of the Star Rod, which was for a good reason.
Sure, Meta Knight did attempt to take over Dream Land in Super Star, but he was trying to do some good through very extreme measures (end the laziness of the people so they've better equipped to act when danger comes), making him an Anti-Villain in Super Star.

And in Smash, it was because of Dedede's actions that Tabuu was able to be defeated (well, and Sonic's assault). Meta Knight was also a key player against the Subspace Army. Though his warrior nature got him into a couple fights (Marth, Lucario, almost Snake). Whereas you got the real evil characters Bowser and Ganondorf on the Subspace Army's side as well as "I do whatever the Hell I want" Wario doing whatever the Hell he wants which merely happened to be beneficial to the Subspace Army.

To say they are evil to Smash and Sakurai is saying you haven't really played through the Kirby games Sakurai did or the SSE.

My poin is not that they are evil IN GENERAL, but they are considered evil in Smash, because in Smash there isn't difference between Villains and Anti-heroes. They all are in that 2 player event which italian name can be traslated with " beat the bad guy". I'm sure that, if Mewtwo was in Brawl, he would have been in that event.
p.s. Subspace Emissary's story WASN'T wrote by Sakurai.



@ Browny That cake is too awesone for being eaten!

 

[LIQUID12A]

I made the most powerful cake in the universe, if you disagree, 1vs1 me, no items, New Island.

I burst out laughing when I saw the cake.

I approve.

 

[strawhatninja]

So Dedede and Meta Knight are evil?
Dedede takes Mewtwo's place in the (semi) Final Event Match for Brawl with (regular) Bowser and Ganondorf and the three are joined by Meta Knight, Wario, and Wolf (all anti-heroes) in the (semi) Final Co-Op Event Match.

Well in the early Kirby games they were, but later ones not as much. I think for Smash like people have said they are considered evil.

 

[Deleted member]

My poin is not that they are evil IN GENERAL, but they are considered evil in Smash, because in Smash there isn't difference between Villains and Anti-heroes. They all are in that 2 player event which italian name can be traslated with " beat the bad guy". I'm sure that, if Mewtwo was in Brawl, he would have been in that event.
p.s. Subspace Emissary's story WASN'T wrote by Sakurai.

And in English it's "The Final Battle" and "The Final Battle for Two" with no notion that they are evil.
With descriptions listing them as "the bossiest of bosses" and "nasty rivals", not evil.

So really, it's not so much that they're evil, but that they are all enemies/rivals/boss fights in their respective series.

Well in the early Kirby games they were, but later ones not as much. I think for Smash like people have said they are considered evil.

Dedede hasn't been evil since his debut.
And that's only because there's no other reason for stealing all the food in Dream Land other than his gluttony.
Meta Knight, like Dedede, was a good guy in Adventure; they're trying to stop Kirby from releasing the real villain (and in Meta Knight's case, preparing him for the inevitable fight with said villain).
The only time Meta Knight has done anything evil was Super Star, and even then, there was good cause in it.

 

[LIQUID12A]

http://www.hallels.com/articles/328...f-super-smash-bros-4-officially-confirmed.htm

Take this with a grain of salt, but it's our last chance to see if Mewtwo's in.

Start praying.

 

[skylanders fan]

http://www.hallels.com/articles/328...f-super-smash-bros-4-officially-confirmed.htm

Take this with a grain of salt, but it's our first time we see Mewtwo in the game.

Start praying.

fixed it

 

[ORVO5]

http://www.hallels.com/articles/328...f-super-smash-bros-4-officially-confirmed.htm

Take this with a grain of salt, but it's our last chance to see if Mewtwo's in.

Start praying.

I wonder where it's going to air though..? On Corocoro.tv? You'd think it would be a Smash Direct..? Maybe it's a mistranslation because of that whole thing where CoroCoro said they'll reveal all the characters and stages but what they really mean is all the characters and stages revealed so far..? I'm excited either way.

 

[LIQUID12A]

I wonder where it's going to air though..? On Corocoro.tv? You'd think it would be a Smash Direct..?

No idea. I'll be looking at the official site, personally, since I'm not fond of staying up until morning to see a broadcast.

 

[skylanders fan]

No idea. I'll be looking at the official site, personally, since I'm not fond of staying up until morning to see a broadcast.

maybe both

 

[LIQUID12A]

I wonder where it's going to air though..? On Corocoro.tv? You'd think it would be a Smash Direct..? Maybe it's a mistranslation because of that whole thing where CoroCoro said they'll reveal all the characters and stages but what they really mean is all the characters and stages revealed so far..? I'm excited either way.

According to its respective thread, CoroCoro says that Nintendo themselves is revealing all the characters, and since every site is reporting the same thing, I doubt it's a mistranslation.

I personally doubt a second Smash Direct. Despite how hype it would be.

 

[skylanders fan]

hype times infinity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Steelia]

According to its respective thread, CoroCoro says that Nintendo themselves is revealing all the characters, and since every site is reporting the same thing, I doubt it's a mistranslation.

I personally doubt a second Smash Direct. Despite how hype it would be.

If they're truly revealing "all" characters, maybe they'll do multiple Newcomer trailers during that TV segment? It'd be the best time to do so. Think E3 2013/2014 where they had 3 newcomer trailers... only these ones will be broadcasted on the air, and show multiple unrevealed veterans as well as newcomers. Just my hunch. Outside of conventions, there's no better time to go all out than on live television.

 

[skylanders fan]

If they're truly revealing "all" characters, maybe they'll do multiple Newcomer trailers during that TV segment? It'd be the best time to do so. Think E3 2013/2014 where they had 3 newcomer trailers... only these ones will be broadcasted on the air, and show multiple unrevealed veterans as well as newcomers. Just my hunch. Outside of conventions, there's no better time to go all out than on live television.

yeah finish it out with mewtwo last confiremed character

 

[LIQUID12A]

If they're truly revealing "all" characters, maybe they'll do multiple Newcomer trailers during that TV segment? It'd be the best time to do so. Think E3 2013/2014 where they had 3 newcomer trailers... only these ones will be broadcasted on the air, and show multiple unrevealed veterans as well as newcomers. Just my hunch. Outside of conventions, there's no better time to go all out than on live television.

Like I said, take this with grain of salt. If several sites say the same thing of Nintendo doing it themselves, and that CC specifically said so, then our chances are better.

 

[skylanders fan]

Like I said, take this with grain of salt. If several sites say the same thing of Nintendo doing it themselves, and that CC specifically said so, then our chances are better.

yeah seems kinda odd though and seems like something sakurai would do

 

[ORVO5]

Like I said, take this with grain of salt. If several sites say the same thing of Nintendo doing it themselves, and that CC specifically said so, then our chances are better.

That's 2 days from now if we're talking Japanese time. We'll see!

 

[Deathlightning21]

This is very unlike Sakurai to spoil the surprises like this before the game's release...

This is fishy guys...

 

[ORVO5]

This is very unlike Sakurai to spoil the surprises like this before the game's release...

This is fishy guys...

Just want to check, is that sarcasm or are you serious?

 

[lltacx]

Do you think, that when Mewtwo is not in the game, that Mr. Sakurai will explain why? Or will he leave us in the dark to keep guessing all of our lives?

 

[Deathlightning21]

Just want to check, is that sarcasm or are you serious?

Super serious

Sakurai loves his surprise and the reaction from people. That's the reason he took out a story mode cause people leaked it and ruined the surprise.

So this is very not like Sakurai

 

[LIQUID12A]

Just want to check, is that sarcasm or are you serious?

I really think he's serious. This is sorta out of character for Sakurai's trollishness, but expected in the face of the upcoming Japanese release.

Do you think, that IF Mewtwo is not in the game, that Mr. Sakurai will explain why? Or will he leave us in the dark to keep guessing all of our lives?

Fixed, and I think he'll leave us guessing.

 

[Steelia]

This is very unlike Sakurai to spoil the surprises like this before the game's release...

This is fishy guys...

It is. But Sakurai isn't stupid - he knows the first thing people are going to do as soon as they get the games, is spoil absolutely everything. That's the main reason he didn't want to do another SSE, due to people showing off the best parts of the 1P mode (the cutscenes). There won't be any surprises left to show... So why not do it himself?

No complaints here at all if he shows off the full roster ahead of time. I don't need to know how to unlock them... I just need to know if Mewtwo and company made it in.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

http://www.hallels.com/articles/328...f-super-smash-bros-4-officially-confirmed.htm

Take this with a grain of salt, but it's our last chance to see if Mewtwo's in.

Start praying.

Are we sure this is real?!Don't lie mate smash is serious business.

 

[Masonomace]

http://www.hallels.com/articles/328...f-super-smash-bros-4-officially-confirmed.htm

Take this with a grain of salt, but it's our last chance to see if Mewtwo's in.

Start praying.

"Pick a god & pray!"

But alright a shooting star moment
*Makes that praying wish*

 

[Deathlightning21]

Are we sure this is real?!Don't lie mate smash is serious business.

It seems real to me besides the logic to it...

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Do you think, that when Mewtwo is not in the game, that Mr. Sakurai will explain why? Or will he leave us in the dark to keep guessing all of our lives?

He did the latter with Mewtwo's omission in Brawl didn't he? Am sure people will just say it was because of time constraints again or whatever bull**** to try and make sense of the situation in a less negative light though.

 

[ORVO5]

Super serious

Sakurai loves his surprise and the reaction from people. That's the reason he took out a story mode cause people leaked it and ruined the surprise.

So this is very not like Sakurai

It is. But Sakurai isn't stupid - he knows the first thing people are going to do as soon as they get the games, is spoil absolutely everything. That's the main reason he didn't want to do another SSE, due to people showing off the best parts of the 1P mode (the cutscenes). There won't be any surprises left to show... So why not do it himself?

No complaints here at all if he shows off the full roster ahead of time. I don't need to know how to unlock them... I just need to know if Mewtwo and company made it in.

Yeah, what @ Steelia said. And that's the reason why I asked, it's because we know he doesn't want other people spoiling them. So it would be totally like Sakurai to spoil everything before other people do.

He did the latter with Mewtwo's omission in Brawl didn't he? Am sure people will just say it was because of time constraints again or whatever bull**** to try and make sense of the situation in a less negative light though.

I like how you're post is #6666 by the way.

By the way guys, regarding the CoroCoro website, I used Google translate, as the people at NeoGaf apparently did, but my results were slightly different than theirs. Theirs omitted the part where it says "up to now", not that I speak Japanese, but here's the image: (And I don't see anything about Aug. 12th..)

 

[Steelia]

What am I even reading

 

[Deathlightning21]

are....you sure your translating that right?

I don't even think thats english....

 

[Masonomace]

with separately in the Appendix

For losing an Appendix I find this offensive.
I was being serious, I had Major Appendicitis.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

I just hope this is legit. I'll be totally bummed if that day goes by and we get nothing but a filler pic. :/

 

[Deathlightning21]

I just hope this is legit. I'll be totally bummed if that day goes by and we get nothing but a filler pic. :/

Please no more fillers ;-;

 

[DarkFalcon]

Assume everything is fake unless it comes from master Sakurai himself.

 

[ORVO5]

are....you sure your translating that right?

I don't even think thats english....

No, it's not. But that's what others are going off of from other sites and getting their hopes up. I mean, it's loosely translated, and you can pretty much get the gist. Saying that the Smash Bros. book/guide will have all the info on characters that have been published/revealed up til now. Articles I've seen talking about the Aug. 12 tv spot have linked this NeoGaf post (which links to the CoroCoro/next site) so I don't get where this "Aug. 12 broadcast" is coming from, is what I'm saying. Not trying to ruin the hype here, obviously you guys know I want Mewtwo in, but I don't wanna get my hopes up for no reason! Useful links:

Alleged 50 character leak (Lol, leaks)

Article talking about the Aug. 12 special broadcast (No source)

Another article talking about the Aug. 12 special broadcast (No source)

 

[Skyfox2000]

Everybody Excited About this!

 

[LIQUID12A]

No, it's not. But that's what others are going off of from other sites and getting their hopes up. I mean, it's loosely translated, and you can pretty much get the gist. Saying that the Smash Bros. book/guide will have all the info on characters that have been published/revealed up til now. Articles I've seen talking about the Aug. 12 tv spot have linked this NeoGaf post (which links to the CoroCoro/next site) so I don't get where this "Aug. 12 broadcast" is coming from, is what I'm saying. Not trying to ruin the hype here, obviously you guys know I want Mewtwo in, but I don't wanna get my hopes up for no reason! Useful links:

Alleged 50 character leak (Lol, leaks)

Article talking about the Aug. 12 special broadcast (No source)

Another article talking about the Aug. 12 special broadcast (No source)

And you should too.

 

[ORVO5]

And you should too.

I have a huge salt lick just for this occasion, lol. Well I assume people are talking about the top image of this page from CoroCoro. Which doesn't seem like it has anything to do with Smash? Someone translate please.