edgeluca
Smash Lord
I think Ganon is better with platforms, so i think I'll go FD from now on.
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EXTENNNDUURRRRRR (samus gen. disc.)
- Thread starter Pi
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TresChikon
Smash Lord
Heck yeah he is, once he gets you above him he can harass you with u-airs and there's little you can do.
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
so...
WHERE YOU AT HUGEHO??
WHERE YOU AT HUGEHO??
edgeluca
Smash Lord
Haha so you saw that HugS interview?
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
what interview?
edgeluca
Smash Lord
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3F3AkDBtAo
Anyone else who likes HugS should watch it too
A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
no samus made it out of pools :[
edgeluca
Smash Lord
Oh dam! Who was there? HugS, Watty, spaceballs?
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
no i had not seen it
haha cocky *** hugo
haha cocky *** hugo
ihavespaceblondes
Smash Master
Nah I think we should stick with Samus x 2 unless we get taken to some bull**** stage.
edgeluca
Smash Lord
Do any of you have this problem: You feel like you get worse when you change styles?
I'm trying to play Samus more aggresively, and while it is way more fun, and I do some amazing stuff, I don't play as well. For me it's about fun mostly, though.
I'm trying to play Samus more aggresively, and while it is way more fun, and I do some amazing stuff, I don't play as well. For me it's about fun mostly, though.
samus doesn't have that many aggressive tools ... thats why it doesn't work out well
Pi
Smash Hero
If you're smart enough about how, when, and with what you approach with you can be aggressive.
But I'm not sure how feasible that is to master compared to her slower playstyle.
I'll let you know when I start winning tournaments.
But I'm not sure how feasible that is to master compared to her slower playstyle.
I'll let you know when I start winning tournaments.
xbombr
Smash Ace
Samus is too slow and floaty to apply enough pressure to have a truly aggressive playstyle that works consistently, imo. Her defensive game is amazing though.
That said, if you see an opportunity to get a grab, DAir them while they're on the ground, or get a mid % FAir you should be all over that like a hobo on a ham sandwich no matter what sort of playstyle you use.
Sometimes switching up between aggressive and the traditional campy-punishment style works pretty well since she does have the tools to run a mediocre aggressive offense if you know what you're doing. It can surprise who you're playing against depending on what kinds of Samus players they've encountered before.
That said, if you see an opportunity to get a grab, DAir them while they're on the ground, or get a mid % FAir you should be all over that like a hobo on a ham sandwich no matter what sort of playstyle you use.
Sometimes switching up between aggressive and the traditional campy-punishment style works pretty well since she does have the tools to run a mediocre aggressive offense if you know what you're doing. It can surprise who you're playing against depending on what kinds of Samus players they've encountered before.
resTy
Smash Champion
Samus' only pressure is jabs XD.
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
i think she can be aggressive on the ground pretty **** well
her defense is just good
i mean yes i know obviously you need some offense and shiz but i mean you can definitely be super offensive, just not the traditional way
if you don't get what i mean then FUGGET IT oh well
edit: jabs are too good
her defense is just good
i mean yes i know obviously you need some offense and shiz but i mean you can definitely be super offensive, just not the traditional way
if you don't get what i mean then FUGGET IT oh well
edit: jabs are too good
she doesn't have anything to make someone stay on defense ... if she did she would be wayyyyy higher ... the only thing is jab ... thats it LOL
fox has shine nair ... marth has range and good grab range ... sheik has needles and grab and tilts
fox has shine nair ... marth has range and good grab range ... sheik has needles and grab and tilts
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
why do you guys think hugo's so good???
JABS
JABS
Pi
Smash Hero
bomb's are pretty good pressure.
i think we'd do well to master bomb wave landing.
i think we'd do well to master bomb wave landing.
yea when they finally put up my vids at pound with djnintendo doing double samus...
i did a two 2 v 1 comeback vs scar and hax and i used bombs to pressure one of them while they were on the platform ... and i did a couple of bomb pressure ... but still not enough to make someone totally play defensive
i did a two 2 v 1 comeback vs scar and hax and i used bombs to pressure one of them while they were on the platform ... and i did a couple of bomb pressure ... but still not enough to make someone totally play defensive
resTy
Smash Champion
How do you fight Sheik?
Help please!
Help please!
Pi
Smash Hero
predict her approaches and CC them
camp her
edge guard her flawlessly
grab her when she shields
then proceed to lose the match
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
play m2k
lose
lose
resTy
Smash Champion
Thanks for the helpful advice.
zDuck
Smash Journeyman
any pikachu advice?
A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
crouch cancel wrecks pikachu
Avoid AXE.
Also, just keep the basics in mind:
-if it's not working, do something else.
-if it is working, keep doing it.
-up B out of shield out of pressure
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
I still think there should be a compendium of stuff everyone knows.
I know there was that one compendium thread, but I haven't seen that guy edit it or whatever, so that's dead.
I've been wanting to do it, since I'm perfectly capable of maintaining and updating a thread constantly.
The only problem with that being I'm a huge noob so I don't really have anything to add
That said, I think it would be great if we created a thread where each of the big names (other people could add to it too as long as it's innovative or just effective) added their own stuff/general stratagems for each match-up. I mean, it's great that we have that corey thread with all the basic stuff and junk (no offense lol), but I think it would help to see different perspectives.
There's also a lot of characters that there really aren't match-up stratagems against, or that are really vague.
I dunno just some suggestions.
I know there was that one compendium thread, but I haven't seen that guy edit it or whatever, so that's dead.
I've been wanting to do it, since I'm perfectly capable of maintaining and updating a thread constantly.
The only problem with that being I'm a huge noob so I don't really have anything to add
That said, I think it would be great if we created a thread where each of the big names (other people could add to it too as long as it's innovative or just effective) added their own stuff/general stratagems for each match-up. I mean, it's great that we have that corey thread with all the basic stuff and junk (no offense lol), but I think it would help to see different perspectives.
There's also a lot of characters that there really aren't match-up stratagems against, or that are really vague.
I dunno just some suggestions.
What do you think anyone who says they are going to make one of those threads is thinking? When AIDS made that thread in July of 08 (was it?), he too probably thought he would be here to constantly update it, incite wonderful arguments and propositions to add or change the existing information, etc. etc. Going on 2 years later, he's not around to do anything about it.
Where will you be in 2012? Are you still going to be here updating your thread? Not to be pessimistic, but I would hope not. This is why I said that if you feel new info needs to be added to the Intro To Samus thread, to PM me about it so I can change it or at least discuss it. Having a new compendium every year doesn't help much...
Not trying to be mean... just saying...
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
I understand what you're saying, but honestly speaking, I'd have to still be here in 2012 if I really want to be good... I mean I only started in late '08........ so I COULD lol
Well I hope people add to it then, or something happens
I could live with it if it doesn't...it just makes it easier for those wanting to learn
oh well
Well I hope people add to it then, or something happens
I could live with it if it doesn't...it just makes it easier for those wanting to learn
oh well
I have been a major advocate for speaking freely in that thread and have constantly made reminders like the ones I have been putting up recently.
Look, if you want to make a new thread with the intention you have, I don't think anyone can, or should, stop you from making it. If some new ideas really do come from it, you know I will update my thread as soon as I can or someone points it out to me.
And that goes for anyone. If you know something and feel it should be on the Intro thread, please please please tell me so I can add it. That's how a community works.
Look, if you want to make a new thread with the intention you have, I don't think anyone can, or should, stop you from making it. If some new ideas really do come from it, you know I will update my thread as soon as I can or someone points it out to me.
And that goes for anyone. If you know something and feel it should be on the Intro thread, please please please tell me so I can add it. That's how a community works.
resTy
Smash Champion
I've been active on Smashboards since July 2006 up until now if that helps.
I plan on staying here and playing Smash until I get married and have children.
I might even continue playing after that, no lie.
I plan on staying here and playing Smash until I get married and have children.
I might even continue playing after that, no lie.
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
you can never quit the smash community
Pi
Smash Hero
I could write a good samus marth matchup guide
i've played a 2 different marths pretty much every since i've gotten competitive
i've played a 2 different marths pretty much every since i've gotten competitive
True. I don't think I could ever totally give up smash, especially Melee, but I think it is necessary to have breaks from it or you just get burnt out on it.
Or maybe I'm just too human...
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
i have a question, corey
how long has that metroid been your avatar?
how long has that metroid been your avatar?