Epic... Rap... BATTLES OF HISTORY!!! OVER GUESS WHICH SIDE WON

[Inferno3044]

Possibly. That's my #2 choice, but I'd rather see JDietz gone.

 

[ranmaru]

Ok I understand.

 

[Jdietz43]

...Where is JTB at?

 

[Jdietz43]

Inferno: What did you think of JK's last exchange with Ran?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

why are you asking inferno that jdietz?

 

[ranmaru]

Yo marshy talk to me bout circus

 

[#HBC | marshy]

why? cant we just lynch a ***** and focus on other people later? the more you talk about mother****ers who arent your main target nearing endgame the more information you give scum to manipulate you with

 

[ranmaru]

Its public info that it will be between you/circus later on. Why does being near endgame matter in that respect tho?

You stated that cercus was whiteknighting jk and I thought there was more to your thoughts.

 

[Jdietz43]

why are you asking inferno that jdietz?

AFAIK Inferno's second pick is JayKay, and JK's last convo with Ran was very negative. I want to know if he's seen it and what his opinions on it are.

If the lynch is going to come down to me vs JK, I'd rather it was JK. If possible I'd like Inferno to see the merits of a JK lynch over mine.



Why did you ask me why I asked? (and why are you still dancing around issues?)

 

[Jdietz43]

EBWOP: (i.e. what was the gain?)

 

[#HBC | marshy]

cuz i didnt see how your question was helpful

what am i dancing around? im probably just ignoring them and dont feel like playing 20 questions

 

[Jdietz43]

what am i dancing around? im probably just ignoring them and dont feel like playing 20 questions

Everything you didn't personally bring up apparently. It's like you've shut down ToDay:

why? cant we just lynch a ***** and focus on other people later? the more you talk about mother****ers who arent your main target nearing endgame the more information you give scum to manipulate you with

 

[#HBC | marshy]

ive totally shut down

at this point its mostly you/nl fighting. ranmaru is asking 20 questions which im not personally invested in. j has disappeared and kary seems highly depressed. jtb is gone. kataefi comes and goes. same for jerkus. no lynch pushes your lynch mad hardbody and is now saying its jaykay making this about the 20th time hes changed his mind on a wagon this game. inferno continues to be mad obvtownbro to da maximum. dunno what more you want me to do since this has unfortunately become a waiting game

 

[Jdietz43]

Alright on some level I can feel that... so I guess the question comes down to: Why do you think I'm a better choice to lynch to move past this than JK


From my POV JK gives us more information on a flip and has outright stated they're done/frustrated with discussing and won't continue. They're making people choose blind from this point on, while I'm still here to discuss with and am making the effort to do so. If you keep me around I'll be here to answer to things, I don't think JK is going to give us that liberty ToMorrow.

 

[No Lynch]

are you serious zen

Now you understand my thoughts with regards to posts like your #1119,#1317, and #1320. It's like you've been slowly getting paranoid over our slot even though we have been townie all game. It's fair for us to consider the possiblity of you being scum just as it is fair of you to consider the possibilty of us being scum.

no lynch pushes your lynch mad hardbody and is now saying its jaykay making this about the 20th time hes changed his mind on a wagon this game.

I've been advocating both Jdietz scum and J scum since early yesterday. I've said multiple times today that they are both scum and that I will choose either. You have been ignoring a lot of our posts though and it's very fusrtrating that you don't see how obvious scum J is.

I feel like you've completely looked over our #1269, [#1136, #1145, & #1152 together], and the case I made on J yesterday (pg. 18). Look at his jump onto our slot right after we claimed deputy. It was clearly opportunistic. Like kat said we had no reason to claim deputy with there already being a flipped backup. J jumped right on in an attempt to ql. J is not trying to make the best play like the lot of us have been. He's simply looking for a lynch. His scum picks are not coherent at all.

 

[No Lynch]

Both Jdietz and J are at L-2, yes?

No lynch, Marshy, Inferno
Ranmaru, Jdietz, Kataepi

Like I said, Jkar's lynch in a better position for tomorrow, because of Circus' insanity. But this can also be put to rest if Circus just investigates someone who is obv townie such as Ran or Inferno. I gurantee it will be guilty. It should also be unknown which of them you are investigating so that we know it isn't a framer.

 

[Inferno3044]

Where are you getting these crazy ideas from NL? Did Circus claim cop?

 

[JayKay]

From my POV JK gives us more information on a flip and has outright stated they're done/frustrated with discussing and won't continue. They're making people choose blind from this point on, while I'm still here to discuss with and am making the effort to do so. If you keep me around I'll be here to answer to things, I don't think JK is going to give us that liberty ToMorrow.

UH, sorry? You're more town because you're here? Go duck yourself

______________________________________

All Day I have been trying to figure out who is bussing who, because the way people came into the game today with these big cases was kind of strange. Since then there's not been a lot of scumhunting, at all. I think I'm beginning to get my head round it.

I find it strange that the people who would settle for our lynch today don't seem to be trying to be trying to read us... Ran seems to ask us idly for our reads, JDietz is apparently playing the noob card with his inability to read J's exchange with him, No Lynch has just given weaksauce reasons for us not being genuine, making things up. In addition, Kata is pushing us over little things, and making mountains from them.

I also find it strange how we seem to be both JDietz's and No Lynch's second choice today. How on earth can they disagree with another so vocally, and be at one another's throats, but happen to agree on this?

I'd quite like to see a case against us, but then again I expect it's going to be filled with bull****- the sort of selective reading no lynch and jdietz seem to do so well. So scratch that, I want to talk about No Lynch vs. JDietz.

Think about their drawn-out argument. It starts Day 2, with each clearly disliking the other, yet in the end No Lynch decides to waggon someone else, and JDietz joins them on the waggon. Almost as soon as a lynch is reached, their argument flares up again, over the stupidest thing:

If I die tonight: No Lynch and J are scum.

You're trying to tell me that you genuinely think scum are going to shoot you tonight?
So why are you telling me this now?
Then look what happens:

Vig this slot, holy ****.

Why are you suddenly pairing us with J, when you willilngly voted J just beacuse we asked you to? Are you kidding me? You're scum. You're scum. You need to die. You are scum.

How is pairing you and us
a) the first thing you got from this?
b) provoking such a strong reaction?

This is so dumb, you have to wonder what's going on. Today they're still at one another's throats, but 95% of what is said is bull****. All of the points made are a reach, and they're way too angry at one another. I spent ages trying to figure out if they could be aligned, because their argument is so ******** it seemed genuine to me.

But aside from tunnelling one another over very little, what have JDietz and No Lynch done so far this Day phase? Well apart from reminding us how they have scum reads on me, I don't know. I've not seen a lot of scumhunting... or actually anything that I'd call pro-town. Claiming? I'm yet to see how that helped anyone.

After a while I realised that it was ridiculously difficult to get solid reads on JDietz and No Lynch, because there was so much BS going on. Yeah, they both seem a bit scummy, but nothing definitive.
But then I asked myself why, if you were town, would you make it so hard for someone to get a read on you? Everything that both of them says seems to suggest that they're not on the same team... but that's just WIFOM on a grand scale.

Kata talked about an undercurrent pushing towards a lynch today.
Circus was talking about JDietz and No Lynch being scum distancing.

Seriously, what the **** is going on?

Really, the most plausible explanation for me is that No Lynch and JDietz are both scum, of one variety or another.

So yeah, I'm willing for JDietz to be the play today. He's super defensive, and dumb, and I can't see him hunting scum. If you want to look back to Day 1, Garg wasn't much different.

Like I said, why on earth is lynching me today a good play. Seriously, if you don't like me calling bull**** on you, don't just bull**** some more. Tell me why I'm wrong, act pro-town.

No Lynch can just shut the **** up, if they won't just die already.

 

[JayKay]

P.S. Circus didn't claim anything.
Circus said a few things, including that No Lynch should die today and that I was town.

No Lynch has LEAPT soared across the sky
to the conclusion that Circus is insane or paranoid cop

and is using this suggestion to try and push my lynch

SO TOWN

 

[JayKay]

Kary J

Kary fought with everyone D1 and became very hard to read. It was a bit hard to tell what he was angling for at times, but he replaced out in favor of J. When J got here he seemed willing to follow NL onto wagons, then pushed my slot for reasons I found unacceptable and shallow rather than previous actions they could have looked at. His tunnel on me soon became gross. After Kary came back and they became JK they've mostly been in the background, though they have echoed some of my concerns on NL which I can appreciate but it feels more like they've waiting for an out now. Scum.

You couldn't read me Day 1, everyone else seemed able to. How is this a scum tell?
It's a reach to say J follows NL just because J votes Kata.
J pushed you based on your play, having had your slot as a scumread. Deal with it.
Why on earth would you want J to push you on things Garg had done.
J doesn't tunnel you at all, he even says you're 50/50 after a very short while.
We've been in the background... how? More than Kata? Inferno? How is this scummy?
I really doubt you've anything to suggest we're waiting for an out. This is just a reach.

So yeah, your scumread on us JDietz? Seems weak.
Feels a bit more like you're looking for an out.

Arguably, the same as you did start of Day 2, pushing Circus...
And when J asked you about that, he didn't like your reaction.

Why did your slot find these three posts:
A good enough reason to vote my slot for?

It's absolute BS to suggest it was those 3 posts we voted you for. So yeah go duck yourself.

 

[Inferno3044]

When's the deadline? If it's soon I want a little more time.

 

[Inferno3044]

@everyone - If you are a cop please claim now. I want the results.

 

[ranmaru]

I think JD might be gone in the night anyways, so it's best to lynch JK ToDay. If JD lied, it'll show tommorow.

 

[ranmaru]

Inferno, why do you want the results of the cop now? How will that help you?

 

[No Lynch]

Ran, what would it take for you to switch to Dietz?

 

[ranmaru]

A JK lynch I guess. Or if you can convince me JD is better somehow.

Also I just don't like how Marshy and others are trying to avoid a JK lynch. Makes me wanna stay on 'em.

Plus if he's a Bodyguard, he'll die tonite regardless, rite?

 

[Jdietz43]

You couldn't read me Day 1, everyone else seemed able to. How is this a scum tell?
It's a reach to say J follows NL just because J votes Kata.
J pushed you based on your play, having had your slot as a scumread. Deal with it.
Why on earth would you want J to push you on things Garg had done.
J doesn't tunnel you at all, he even says you're 50/50 after a very short while.
We've been in the background... how? More than Kata? Inferno? How is this scummy?
I really doubt you've anything to suggest we're waiting for an out. This is just a reach.

It's absolute BS to suggest it was those 3 posts we voted you for. So yeah go duck yourself.

• Breaking down and attacking a majority of players isn't a scum-tell, but it's also not a town tell in my book either. If others got a definite read from your play D1 then that's good, but I couldn't. Taking so many different directions left me a negative opinion however since it made it hard to tell what you were looking for.
• Iirc, it's the very first time J even mentions Kata or suspicion of the slot. It's not at all a reach to say he followed NL there.
• J pushed me for entirely arbitrary reasons that don't make sense to push someone for. It was very forced and gross. Trying to defend it is worse. It's one thing to make a vote and go "my bad" later, but the fact you're trying to back this up as having been genuine is no good.
• I would have preferred had J pushed me for things Garg did because that would have actually made SENSE over what he was in fact pushing me on.
• Yeah, after J realizes it's not working out he backs out. Not a town tell, just giving himself an out.
• Your activity died down substantially after you became JayKay. It's out of character, and scummy to lurk too far in the background after pressure is applied. Your last bout of chatter made me doubtful you'd speak at all again.
• You've been literally calling everyone's arguments "bull****", we haven't even heard from J in days. Since you haven't taken a new direction or talked about anything meaningful/new I'd say that saying you're waiting is a fair assessment.
• You definitely didn't give out any information to suggest you didn't vote me entirely on those posts. I saw those posts, then I saw your slot's vote with no other backing. Your previous response to me asking what about those posts were vote worthy to you was the equivilant of "reasons", then you dropped it.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i smell bussing

 

[Inferno3044]

Inferno, why do you want the results of the cop now? How will that help you?

Circus, JK, and Jdietz have been seen as scummy slots by the majority of people. I refuse to believe that none of them have been investigated. Having that information is helpful to us in this situation.

 

[ranmaru]

Makes sense. But do you think they should claim today, or have one more nite to investigate?

 

[ranmaru]

Also can you tell me your opinion on JD's claim?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

guys

what if scum was actually me/no lynch/inferno and nl and i are subtly setting each other up for a bus while inferno is our endgame trump card?

wouldnt that **** be hilarious?

 

[ranmaru]

I wouldn't listen to anything like that since it'd be wifom. (Specially how you claimed scum/ was antitown to get votes off of your buddy J in Hearts) I would expect you to do say something like that because of something you have planned.

Still confident in a JK lynch. Still confident in NL town. Inferno town too.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i was joking ran

on a more serious note this day needs to end but i really wanna know where jerkus/kat are at with recent events

 

[Inferno3044]

I'd like the info now. At least one of them were investigated, possibly two of them. I would love to have clears/condemns on those people.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah I know but since it may be possible the cop may be paranoid, might let them stay hidden for one more night to validate their sanity or insanity.

If they come out then the Bodyguard should be on that person.

 

[No Lynch]

Or if you can convince me JD is better somehow.

Or case. Along with everything he says. Wouldn't mind just ending the day now on Dietz tbh. You and Jkar should vote him.

 

[No Lynch]

Our *

 

[ranmaru]

Also Inferno, what are your thoughts on JD's claim?

 

[ranmaru]

Or case. Along with everything he says. Wouldn't mind just ending the day now on Dietz tbh. You and Jkar should vote him.

Well I'm still reading it but I still feel JK is also a good lynch. Don't see why you don't see that. (Look at their vote on you) Plus I didn't like how J tried to push on JD earlier and just poof left off because 'he didn't care'.

And if JD is bodyguard he might just die tonite. If not we can look at him tommorow.

So I don't mind ending the day on JK. You should vote with me. Cmon bro.