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Epic... Rap... BATTLES OF HISTORY!!! OVER GUESS WHICH SIDE WON
- Thread starter #HBC | Gorf
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Inferno sheeped Gheb is not really that big of a thing, especially considering that you are being unfair to other players like JTB/Roxy who have both been sheeps this game as well to the greater public. His "twist" on you in RVS didn't really seem as big as you are making it out to be nor do I see him twisting your words.
Also I thought the "Placing words in your mouth". was just a misunderstanding. ._."
Inferno is town due to his intent, the only post I have had a problem with him so far is the reaction to Ran's pressure of trying to just try and call it dumb and move on from it. I don't see the scumminess of his slot, especially when reading my slots arguments with Inferno. JTB as town, Soup? Do not see how at the current time. I remember this being a problem I had with your slot for early game with the way you were throwing out reads without much justification/reasoning. SH suspicion I can see and I would probably place him 3rd when talking about my suspicions like so:
1.) Kata
2.) Circus/Ditzy
3.) Sherlock
Am I town to you purely because I match your reads or is it because of Kary's beginning play?
I never got your DHtown read, can you explain this for me? I find him hard to read because I always find his play scummy, yet this game I just got the impression that his intent was more malicious then actually trying to find out who exactly is scum. I agree that I would like to see Ditzy do some things on his own because I feel that will be most helpful in determining his alignment.
We're watching you Ditzy. O_O (<--- Look into the eyes)
Not really. Kary is just jumpy but for justified reasons after I talked to him as to why he was replacing out and the like.Oh great. Well that might explain Kary's play. Wouldn't you say J
As Marshy said, Cop for Serial Killers.
Zen, you are not obvtown this game and, for me, I am really curious to see your push on Kata in more detail. Can you give me some bullet reasoning as to why I should stay on Kata in your opinion and how you plan on convincing others to join in?
Zen... YOU didn't even know for sure what it was. Talk about the pot calling out the kettle for that one.
Not reckless...its just your train of thought is hidden to me where I know exactly what is what. This time, I only know one real scum-read with limited reasonings.
2.) You knooooow better than to answer a question like that, like that with me.
3.) *repost of Helen Bonham Carter Sweeny Todd gif*
Not really considering you need people to complete the wagon.
Yes, but no one had stated what it did before I asked.
If I ask what your real name is, that's completely fine because I don't know what it is. But if J asks the same question right after you answered me wouldn't you be like wtf?
However, the answer was not publicly known when he asked. When you asked, the answer was already in game/answered.
FoS: Ditzy
Waaaay to aggressive this call-out on Zen for a bad reason that just looks like you are trying to make Zen look worse.
Zen, screw you and your ninjas of me this game so far.
;_; Makes me look like a copy cat.
Mew? Oooh Kat. I would kind of be alright with that. But I like Kata so giving him a fair chance to explain his actions would be nice since I haven't played with him in soooo long and he's like a mentor for me. (Terrible reasoning I know but I just meeeh)
;_; Makes me look like a copy cat.
Mew? Oooh Kat. I would kind of be alright with that. But I like Kata so giving him a fair chance to explain his actions would be nice since I haven't played with him in soooo long and he's like a mentor for me. (Terrible reasoning I know but I just meeeh)
Eh, eh? mm
I like this response I think, but I'm not sure what else you want me to add if the reasons you layed out are completly justifiable. You can reread for my reasoning if that doesn't answer it enough.
But how would I even answer a question like that? How would you answer that question? I don't see how it would give you any info.
Also mew is my name for Jdietz.
Well, if you plan on convincing people to join your wagon, you'd need a case and justifiable reasoning which I thought you would have much more of yet you seem to just be rehashing what I said. Don't know how to take that you are just comfortable with going along with my reasoning as your reasoning.
Reason I asked what your reasoning was is that I couldn't really find it in your argument with Kat. You were just softly pushing him but not really and it was confusing which is where the question came from.
Mew for Jdietz? Interesting but I like Ditzy so much more. It's fun to say when talking to like Sang. ;P
Wanna deal with Kata toMorrowish and lynch Ditzy/Garg? Circus vote with appeal to "why are you NOT on this wagon?" seems cop-outish/easy.
Reason I asked what your reasoning was is that I couldn't really find it in your argument with Kat. You were just softly pushing him but not really and it was confusing which is where the question came from.
Mew for Jdietz? Interesting but I like Ditzy so much more. It's fun to say when talking to like Sang. ;P
Wanna deal with Kata toMorrowish and lynch Ditzy/Garg? Circus vote with appeal to "why are you NOT on this wagon?" seems cop-outish/easy.
hey guys...
omg this is tricky because I don't think I'll have the super posting activity I'm seeing from some players here, so you'll have to bear with me. I was going to read tonight (it's like half 1 here as I'm on a different timezone to you all) with gheb's flip in mind as to his interactions but then I noticed Zen going all maximum defence and I want to nip it in the bud. will get more into the groove tomorrow
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kk let's break down what Zen highlighted about me in a bid to show this Town what a shaky analysis looks like:
What are you conjuring up here?
Marshy was up for quicklynching here at this point in the game and we didn't have common interests. This is why (@Town) you'll see my unvote and then you'll see an exchange afterward as I attempted to get Marshy's reasoning.
This was all very obvious though. What caused you (Zen) to miss these details and gun straight for me with this? Consider I was the only one to air suspicion on Soup, whom you replaced omg i bet Dark Horse IS scum! Also I absolutely don't accept this part of your push I'm sorry but something so obvious to be ignored is coming across like a misconstruction here and it needs further explanation...
look at these games btw:
- Pikmafia
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277037&page=7#
Great read actually - I've linked to page 7. Day 1 was 7 pages long... As early as page 3 I was having decisive reads on Swiss... (he's scum). I was Town. You were in this game... yet here you claim I'm "not playing by my own values" and "my intention to lynch was strong", yet in what way is this supposed to be painted as something odd and scummy of me when he has experience in a game with me exhibiting this behaviour as Town?
quick quick another example: - Discworld
Read the mason quicktopic in this game where I force mayling to quicklynch cello...(he's scum). He was lynched even before a claim. I was Town. Can't link because it's getting late, will do so tomorrow morning most definitely. another example of me ready to advance a day "prematurely" as they say.
- Resident Evil 4
Well J? You modded this after all... And Red Ruy was here too. I was decisive on Red Ruy after being inactive D1 due to work shenanigans... I was very prepared to lynch Red Ruy (scum) here at the start of D2 taking all other info very barely (my big tell was a word choice slip)... actually i was indy here but i'm highlighting this because my #1 strat was to obliterate the scummies.
...will def look up more in a sec but these are the ones off the top of my head.
Considering this aspect of your push is essentially "this is unlike you", you do a bad job simply backing up your claims. And when asked to do so, you don't... maybe you can't. Look:
this is dumb... it's too late to carry on will get to your other stuffs. If your read has advanced since your last push on me then by all means speak now so I can actually read it at work and respond tomorrow morning where possible. I just wanted to highlight that the "unlike me" aspects of your D1 push are, well, wrong!
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Still looking at Dark Horse [Circus] / Garg as potential scummies. Want Zen to be more explanative... gheb's death has me re-evaluating but looking into his vote placements and his push on me D1 i'm getting inclinations that he wants to incite suspicion and he needs clarity. want to hear more from all 3 plz. i have more stuff to say but it has to wait lol i have to sleep, it's almost 2 so sleeps plz.
Potentially looking into JTB as well. thy shall elaboate tomorrow
Vote: Circus
When you come talk to me about gheb pretty plz. What do you make of his death? How did your read on him progress as a bystander throughout D1?
^Zen: can you switch?
@Marshy: you're not a bro of your word it seems. Come where the grass is greener and vote circus. Curiously... didn't you state somewhere that gheb might have bused dark??? why did you opt to go kreative over dark in the end?
@J: what are your specific reasons on me that warrants top lynch? Reminds me of when you elected Rajam to be your main suspect in Lost... bit of a quirky read. can you explain in depth?
@Inferno: why did you *****foot around the Kreative/Detective wagons at the end of D1?
omg this is tricky because I don't think I'll have the super posting activity I'm seeing from some players here, so you'll have to bear with me. I was going to read tonight (it's like half 1 here as I'm on a different timezone to you all) with gheb's flip in mind as to his interactions but then I noticed Zen going all maximum defence and I want to nip it in the bud. will get more into the groove tomorrow
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kk let's break down what Zen highlighted about me in a bid to show this Town what a shaky analysis looks like:
then of course there's this #166
What are you conjuring up here?
Marshy was up for quicklynching here at this point in the game and we didn't have common interests. This is why (@Town) you'll see my unvote and then you'll see an exchange afterward as I attempted to get Marshy's reasoning.
This was all very obvious though. What caused you (Zen) to miss these details and gun straight for me with this? Consider I was the only one to air suspicion on Soup, whom you replaced
omg i bet Dark Horse IS scum! Also I absolutely don't accept this part of your push I'm sorry but something so obvious to be ignored is coming across like a misconstruction here and it needs further explanation...look at these games btw:
- Pikmafia
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277037&page=7#
Great read actually - I've linked to page 7. Day 1 was 7 pages long... As early as page 3 I was having decisive reads on Swiss... (he's scum). I was Town. You were in this game... yet here you claim I'm "not playing by my own values" and "my intention to lynch was strong", yet in what way is this supposed to be painted as something odd and scummy of me when he has experience in a game with me exhibiting this behaviour as Town?
quick quick another example: - Discworld
Read the mason quicktopic in this game where I force mayling to quicklynch cello...(he's scum). He was lynched even before a claim. I was Town. Can't link because it's getting late, will do so tomorrow morning most definitely. another example of me ready to advance a day "prematurely" as they say.
- Resident Evil 4
Well J? You modded this after all... And Red Ruy was here too. I was decisive on Red Ruy after being inactive D1 due to work shenanigans... I was very prepared to lynch Red Ruy (scum) here at the start of D2 taking all other info very barely
(my big tell was a word choice slip)... actually i was indy here but i'm highlighting this because my #1 strat was to obliterate the scummies....will def look up more in a sec but these are the ones off the top of my head.
Considering this aspect of your push is essentially "this is unlike you", you do a bad job simply backing up your claims. And when asked to do so, you don't... maybe you can't. Look:
...when prompted by Inferno to elaborate. Why wasn't you prepared to go into detail here about my meta if this is something you harped on about? Curious as to what your thoughts are.
this is dumb... it's too late to carry on
will get to your other stuffs. If your read has advanced since your last push on me then by all means speak now so I can actually read it at work and respond tomorrow morning where possible. I just wanted to highlight that the "unlike me" aspects of your D1 push are, well, wrong!__
Still looking at Dark Horse [Circus] / Garg as potential scummies. Want Zen to be more explanative... gheb's death has me re-evaluating but looking into his vote placements and his push on me D1 i'm getting inclinations that he wants to incite suspicion and he needs clarity. want to hear more from all 3 plz. i have more stuff to say but it has to wait lol i have to sleep, it's almost 2 so sleeps plz.
Potentially looking into JTB as well. thy shall elaboate tomorrow
Vote: Circus
When you come talk to me about gheb pretty plz. What do you make of his death? How did your read on him progress as a bystander throughout D1?
^Zen: can you switch?
@Marshy: you're not a bro of your word it seems. Come where the grass is greener and vote circus. Curiously... didn't you state somewhere that gheb might have bused dark??? why did you opt to go kreative over dark in the end?
@J: what are your specific reasons on me that warrants top lynch? Reminds me of when you elected Rajam to be your main suspect in Lost... bit of a quirky read. can you explain in depth?
@Inferno: why did you *****foot around the Kreative/Detective wagons at the end of D1?
Zen that's a terrible reason. That's like saying anyone who asks for a replacement due to inactivity is town, which is total garbage.
Ooooh, good point @ your Inferno question. I remember seeing that but somewhat just *shrugging* it off.
Specific reasonings were what I stated where I don't really get you this game. I also don't like how you are just mainly pointing to your meta as reasoning for why you are not scum and not trying to justify your actions as for why you did your things as town. ;P Seems odd and makes me want your head more but at the same time, I see some gems in your post that make me hesitate on you Kata.
I do dislike your @me thing though.
You are trying to infer that I am scum in that question you poised and doesn't really ask a straight up question for me to answer when I have explained what I dislike on you. I also don't get why you are wording my suspicion on you as quirky. My RajamScum read was complete bologna because I did not have anyone else that seemed easy. Plus Rajam had pre-existing suspicion on him in the game and I decided to try and push that one opening hard, almost worked but eeeh what do haha.I also don't see why people have Inferno as auto-town either. I didn't like his attempt to hard role-fish JTB so early in the game asking if he was Dr. Seuss. I don't see why he would try and out that kind of information as town so early:
Are you gonna keep rhyming like ****ing Dr. Seuss?
I think your skills need better timin'.
but for now give Ran's scum *** the noose
and for town we shall say L'chaim
I'm sorry to say this but each post makes me wanna lynch you more with the needling way you are responding to just any pressure or light questioning with trying to act tough/show that you can throw it back in others faces (I.e. with zen and now me).
Why do you see no reason you should go before Circus? Ditzy, how would you even know what DH's classic scum-tells are because you have only played like 1 game with him as scum and that game he got taken down due to his connection to you.
Him replacing out is null and is terrible logic to use for a reason as why he is scum. You are reaching for a statement to try and make it seem like Circus's slot is scummier than yours. You are not seeming to be trying to lynch scum but just save your own butt from a lynch toDay with the way you say "Circus should go befor me. He's obvious pick."
I really dislike the way you are trying to deal with these past few things. =(
You know this is how I play J, when people don't actually have anything on my slot and try to push it: I'm going to push them back until they either substantiate some actual reasons or back down from having a bad case. I'm not just going to let people push me for it without fighting back.
The way I see it: I replaced a noob who people bullied into voting when he didn't know how to handle the situation, then got grilled for voting after they made him do it. DH on the other hand has no such excuse. He played weak, slipped up and got out of town. SF2 wasn't the only game I've seen him in, he was also in (game still ongoing) as scum and was quickly killed off, and you were scum with me when we were paired with DH (if only briefly). I don't want to bash him: but he's not good as scum. He wasn't devoid of scumslips while here either, for instance:
That seems fine until you realize he's worried about Ryu catching Noobscum with his gambit. Not MLing noobtown, catching noobscum. That's not something a townie would ever have to worry about, it shouldn't have even crossed their minds as an issue.
And even when he came back from being absent from thread for awhile: instead of helping out or proving his worth he gave us posts like this:
I'm willing to look at other suspects, but I don't see how people wouldn't be willing to be rid of his slot toDay, and would like anyone who has him as better than null to substantiate their read.
Katatataa it's not so much that you are for quicklynching, but the fact that you had provided little justifiable reasoning for a lynch. You have still yet to do so in any of your votes. It could be just that you don't have the time, but I don't get the sense of achase from you. The thrill of the hunt. Your vote/accusation patter has pretty much been: Vote player X, give some generic reasoning to justify it. The contrast to the games you linked is that in those games you're actually taking an analytic approach. Working your way through what you want to do. Here you're just flat out saying "I'll do this. he is some reasoning as for why". Also take note of how your picks in those games are narrowed. Here you just threw out like 4 names. Not to mention it's not even like you're trying to actually rally support for where you want to go.
"Zen can you switch?" There's nothing to it. Your votes have been completely noncommital. You didn't even provide any reasoning as to why we should go Circus over anyone else.
As for you questions about Gheb. I think he was pretty much null for the entire day. We had a few suspicions, and I'm not too sad about his death. It got rid of a null for us.
"Zen can you switch?" There's nothing to it. Your votes have been completely noncommital. You didn't even provide any reasoning as to why we should go Circus over anyone else.
As for you questions about Gheb. I think he was pretty much null for the entire day. We had a few suspicions, and I'm not too sad about his death. It got rid of a null for us.
Personal lynch order so far is Circus>Inferno>Zen
Zen, mind elaborating on what your thought process was for the KWK lynch? Iirc you were the one trying to get most people to join the wagon, and were the first to invite me to do so upon joining the game.
@Ninja: every game...
Zen, mind elaborating on what your thought process was for the KWK lynch? Iirc you were the one trying to get most people to join the wagon, and were the first to invite me to do so upon joining the game.
@Ninja: every game...
Eh, my voting is being sloppy but idc.
Unvote
Vote: Kataefi
He really should go toDay. Ditzy's 50/50. Circus could be scum, but I need to see him post his thoughts.
@Ditzy: Scum-read on Zen seems OMGUS, real or not real?
Unvote
Vote: Kataefi
He really should go toDay. Ditzy's 50/50. Circus could be scum, but I need to see him post his thoughts.
@Ditzy: Scum-read on Zen seems OMGUS, real or not real?
Partially real. I had mixed feelings at best about his slot yesterDay, KWK town flip makes me feel worse about his position since he was the one to flat out ask me to join the wagon when I came in. Could go either way but definitely needs looking into.
What do you think of Marshy then?
DH's intent. What is it to you? Quote an example of him having town intent for me.I could just be wrong. Everyone seemes to think DH is scum but Soup and I.
funni
I thought it was cool.