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[Orboknown]

DB does your ran read change if PJB flips either scum or town?

 

[Death Bear]

Most likely not.

Ran is town and I'm damn sure of that, town or scum flip.

 

[Orboknown]

Aight. That clears up that. Someone hammer.

 

[Rockin]

Oh, and one more thing. Nabe claims first thing toMorrow, no more excuses- fair enough?

And if he doesn't?

 

[Orboknown]

not to step into kary's boundaries, but obviously we lynch his ass.

 

[Death Bear]

not to step into kary's boundaries, but obviously we lynch his ***.

Ding ding ding

 

[#HBC | Kary]

there is no if. he will

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Well since everyone seems content to foolishly let Nabe slide on not claiming today, despite everybody being in complete agreement that he needs to claim, I guess I have no choice.

Vote: Orbo

I'll be damned if I let myself go down while obvscum is hanging around. Let's do dis.

 

[Orboknown]

I'm obvscum? Why is that? What apart from me coming after you today makes me scum that isn't the stuff ran brought up? This is the same stuff you did yesterday at deadline, sitting on your "scumpick" and not doing work until you couldn't swing it at deadline, so you start switching it up.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

why is trying to lynch my scumpick scummy? Should I try to lynch my townpicks instead? I've made it clear why I think you're scummy. This is not an unacceptable switch, given that nobody wants to lynch Nabe for no reason whatsoever.

 

[Orboknown]

It's not that. it's that you've, for two consecutive day phases, sat on one person all day until right before deadline and then switched it up right at the end to a possible wagon.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

except that I didn't do that yesterday.

 

[Orboknown]

You sat on kat all day. then went to the largest wagon at the end of the day to avoid a no lynch. pretty damn sure of that

 

[Orboknown]

cuz it's obvious nobody is going for Kat today, and even I'm beginning to question whether or not he's a good lynch. My lynchpicks for today were kat, j and nabe. J was only a pick because he was being completely and utterly useless and impossible to read, but he's gone now. So that leaves Nabe. It's not opportunistic at all, it's becoming obvious that the day is going to either a circus lynch or a nabe lynch, and i don't like the circus lynch idea at all, so naturally it's Nabe. I waited, because he was actually posting, so I wanted to see what he posted before I threw my vote in.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I was on soup for like, a good 1/3 or 1/2 of that day, but ok. I also switched to Hilt because he was the scummiest person the rest of town would allow me to swing that day. I can't help it if people don't agree with my reads this game, and the other options at the time were Circus and Rockin, lynches I did NOT support.

You make it sound like I'm just willing to compromise to any ol wagon I can get my hands on, but I haven't done that at all.

 

[Orboknown]

I'll give you the hilt thing, but it's still kinda ick to me. Whatever, you're the likely lynch anyways. I'm L3 with you being L1.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

How is it "ick"? All you've done is point out that I've wanted certain people to get lynched both days, and I couldn't get the rest of town to agree with me. That doesn't make me scum, it makes me not persuasive enough.

 

[Orboknown]

it makes you to be sitting on a read all day and effectively doing nothing.

 

[Orboknown]

rockin, chime in.
oh snap, rockin ran and pjb means I'm actually in lynch range at L2. Don't be stupid and let private scum get away guys.

 

[Death Bear]

wait, PJB, wasn't Hilt a null to you D1? How does that make him the scummiest thing you could swing ?

Why not just not vote and NL from your POV ?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

You're not looking at anything other than vote logs. You can't just say "All you did was sit on one read all day" based on that. I've pushed and questioned you for a good portion of this day phase, and as a result Ran stopped looking at me and started looking at you. That's not "me not doing anything but vote Nabe all day". That's me wanting Nabe to die way more than you.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

wait, PJB, wasn't Hilt a null to you D1? How does that make him the scummiest thing you could swing ?

Why not just not vote and NL from your POV ?

wtf I've already explained why I voted Hilt like 3 times. You guys are doing an awful lot of pushing against my slot considering you clearly have no idea what I've said or done all game.

 

[Orboknown]

You're the reason ran was looking at me? BRB gonna go laugh out loud.

 

[Death Bear]

I stopped pushing you visibly a while ago.

Now I'm re-reading the thread and thinking maybe I need to talk to Ryu about swinging towards Kat, or just doing it myself.

This hinges on me not passing out from back pain of course.

 

[Orboknown]

PJb if we don't ;ynch you, would you help lynch kat then we can vig you or xonar or maybe rockin

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Hilt just seemed like more a lurking scummer to me. He had so little activity, and when he came into the game, all he did was make weak pushes against other inactive slots.

look at his #569
His top lynch pick at that point in the game was J, a slot who had basically never even posted. Only showing up often enough to look like you're doing something, and "pushing" inactives once in awhile is such safe scum play. Just screamed of lurker scum there.

Circus could maybe be argued the same, but I just didn't see it the same way. He seemed like he was inactive cuz he wasn't around, not cuz of playing it safe. He wasn't popping in to maintain appearances.

Rockin just seems like one of the few people in this game (you being one of the others) with his head screwed on straight. I don't want that dude gone at all, cuz I think he'll make the right call in a lylo situation.

See?

 

[Orboknown]

That's something I missed, and I can see the hilt drive. 1465please

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'm not of the opinion that Kat is as good a lynch as Nabe or Orbo. He might be scum, but I wouldn't be the slightest bit confident in that lynch.

 

[Orboknown]

nabe's not gonna be lynched i don't think without claiming and tbqh i don't think that's gonna happen before i leave in 40 mins and go v/la for easter weekend. I need my vote set tonight.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I stopped pushing you visibly a while ago.

Now I'm re-reading the thread and thinking maybe I need to talk to Ryu about swinging towards Kat, or just doing it myself.

This hinges on me not passing out from back pain of course.

So you're not pushing me, but you're still voting me. One might even say you've been sitting on me, not doing anything. Must be scum, right?

It's funny cuz everyone thinks I'm scummy for doing that, but it's not a scummy thing to do at all.

 

[Orboknown]

rake/ryu halfs on different spectrums obv. that was rake, ryu's full aggro on you.
wait. how is that NOT scummy?

 

[Death Bear]

Doubting Nabe will be a thing toDay PJB, enough people are fighting it to make it very doubtful.

Also doubt he'll claim tomorrow.

Not to play the wifom game, but I'd also be disturbed if Nabe were alive toMorrow.

 

[Death Bear]

Ryu and me agree on you by the PJB btw, Ryu's still visibly pushing you hard and I'm trying to figure out what happens upon either you flipping town or scum. And figure out the other slots in this game too.

I feel justified enough in my push on you to sit on you, that's the difference by the way.

Because Ryu is still pushing you for both of us,

You have to remember, that this isn't just Rake or just Ryu , it's both of us , so just because my half isn't pushing you off a cliff, doesn't mean we're not still working for your lynch, and the aftermath.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Nabe not being a lynch option this late in the day is nobody's fault except yours though. I've wanted to lynch him literally all day, and now all of a sudden you have no objections to it other than "well it's so close to deadline, we'll never get a wagon moving in time".

 

[#HBC | Joker]

you think feeling justified in sitting on me is a difference? You don't think I think Nabe is freaking scum?! I feel perfectly justified in sitting on him all day. That's why I freaking did it.

 

[Orboknown]

I want his claim. he won't get lynched without a claim. which i wasn't gonna get because i wanted you dead. Nabe's claimed a pr anyways, he'll likely die overnight

 

[#HBC | Kary]

PJb if we don't ;ynch you, would you help lynch kat then we can vig you or xonar or maybe rockin

Orbo, what the hell is this? Don't tell me you're giving up on PJBscum at the last minute?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

gheb replaces xonar. votecount when im not at work/busy

 

[Orboknown]

No, I still wanna lynch PJb. it's a matter of votes, which if you and ran won't vote him, and rockin won't vote him, leaves gheb and.... one other person to do the job.

 

[Death Bear]

No, I think you fully believe your Nabe read , and I know you feel justified in sitting on much the same I do, but you haven't brought Nabe to lynch point yet. Now i believe you can do it, but you have an uphill battle on your hands because I believe that Ryu is right about Nabe.

Now, I'm trying to compromise a Kata here, that seems like it isn't going to fly, so tell me , can we compromise someone else from our mutual list ? I believe we had common reads that we could push here. We can help each other out, and maybe me and Ryu can talk out your read more than we have been already.

Fair ?