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You know I've been meaning to ask you, what is your view on my region, like do you have a tier list for all the regions(like from best to worst) cause I wanna know what you think and what players(if any) from MD/VA do you feel would or have the potential to place top 5 at a big National Brawl tourny.

Sorry if that's asking a lot, I wanted to have a somewhat intelligent convo on this stuff with someone lol.
 

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You know I've been meaning to ask you, what is your view on my region, like do you have a tier list for all the regions(like from best to worst) cause I wanna know what you think and what players(if any) from MD/VA do you feel would or have the potential to place top 5 at a big National Brawl tourny.

Sorry if that's asking a lot, I wanted to have a somewhat intelligent convo on this stuff with someone lol.
In order based on overall skill imo:

NY/NJ (counting Ally since he attends like 2-3 tournies here per month)
SoCal
Texas
MD/VA
Midwest (Michigan/Ohio/etc.)
Florida
NorCal
Pacific Northwest
Northeast Atlantic North
Midwest (rest of it)
South (not counting FL)

MD/VA seems to get ***** at nationals for some reason. Make Azen play again. You guys don't seem to take Brawl seriously.
 

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In order based on overall skill imo:

NY/NJ (counting Ally since he attends like 2-3 tournies here per month)
SoCal
Texas
MD/VA
Midwest (Michigan/Ohio/etc.)
Florida
NorCal
Pacific Northwest
Northeast Atlantic North
Midwest (rest of it)
South (not counting FL)

MD/VA seems to get ***** at nationals for some reason. Make Azen play again. You guys don't seem to take Brawl seriously.
So you really put Texas above MD/VA, but Forte would beat Dojo and Candy would beat Razer! :]

Also, who does SoCal have but Haze(who Neo would ****), SK92, DEHF, DSF and Tyrant? Some lucky Ness player? lol

Azen won't play if Chu doesn't team with him.
 

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So you really put Texas above MD/VA, but Forte would beat Dojo and Candy would beat Razer! :]

Also, who does SoCal have but Haze(who Neo would ****), SK92, DEHF, DSF and Tyrant? Some lucky Ness player? lol

Azen won't play if Chu doesn't team with him.
Dojo is double Forte's skill. Candy is not as on Razer's level anymore. Texas also has Gnes, UTD Zac, Broly, Roy_R, and other h4x players.

SoCal has lots of good players. RichBrown, HugS, Havok, etc. You never played there and don't pay much attention to things.

FOW and SK92 are Vegas, not SoCal.
They're always playing in SoCal, so w/e.
 

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Dojo is double Forte's skill. Candy is not as on Razer's level anymore. Texas also has Gnes, UTD Zac, Broly, Roy_R, and other h4x players.

SoCal has lots of good players. RichBrown, HugS, Havok, etc. You never played there and don't pay much attention to things.



They're always playing in SoCal, so w/e.
Pound 4 is going to see some amazing matches then, pride is on the line! :]

I believe you cause you travel more but I still try to keep up, I forgot about Rich and Havok, Hugs is okay for ROB but my boy Nacker would take him(obviously joking on that one).

So you think you can lead your region to victory against all other regions?
 

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You're strat was dumb lucas you sent out me and m2k right away.
ROFL

I called everything they were going to do and built up a gigantic lead that would allow me to COUNTERPICK with the lesser players into match-ups they could do well in.

Pierce ruined everything.

My strategy was the only one that could have possibly given us victory.
 

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If it was a GIGANTIC lead, pierce choking wouldn't have ruined everything. Your strat gave us a SLIGHT lead.
 

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If it was a GIGANTIC lead, pierce choking wouldn't have ruined everything. Your strat gave us a SLIGHT lead.
The lead was pretty big, dude. It was definitely around 5 stocks, which is over a whole player. Pierce killed our momentum and ruined our advantage and it was downhill from there.

My strategy was amazing and the only thing we could have done. What is wrong with you?
 

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The lead was pretty big, dude. It was definitely around 5 stocks, which is over a whole player. Pierce killed our momentum and ruined our advantage and it was downhill from there.
Who went in after Pierce? because they ruined our advantage.

My strategy was amazing and the only thing we could have done.
I never said that wasn't true.
 

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Dojo is double Forte's skill. Candy is not as on Razer's level anymore. Texas also has Gnes, UTD Zac, Broly, Roy_R, and other h4x players.

SoCal has lots of good players. RichBrown, HugS, Havok, etc. You never played there and don't pay much attention to things.



They're always playing in SoCal, so w/e.
is this a joke?

why would i not be at razers skill anymore? ive done nothing but get better since the last time i played texas at apex...and i beat razer in "serious friendlies" and dojo in a MM and in tourny...im only ranked 5th b/c my lack of attendance in the summer so dont assume
i already beat there top2 ....alot of md/va has good diddy practice so gnes isnt much of a threat( no offense to him he seems like a cool dude)...neo is a 3584950380x better version of roy_r....plus we have much more good players then them...meep? chu? ps? boss? forte?(which btw is AMAZING in teams and just hasnt really proven it b/c he doesnt go out of state sadly)...there is NO way texas is better than md/va

socal looks really good...but md/va hasnt really played anymore from WC so its hard to say..but mikehaze seems to being doing really good there and neo is def. better than him..dont underestimate md/va

and i'll say it again....ny and nj is not together! why should they be? b/c yall are next to each other?? what a stupid reason....the only reason md/va is together b/c we BOTH goto EVERY tourny together...tournies every week are specified for both md/va...we train with each other ALL the time...we are never rivals against each other....ny and nj do NOT goto every tourny together...have seperate PRs...and thus not the same region...stop trying to pull random **** just to try to make yourself look better...and now your trying to give yourself ally?? ROFLMAO.....if he doesnt live in nj...hes not part of it...how stupid is that saying you have players that arent even from that region

that is all..
munch munch laxx


edit: that strategy vs WC did seem very smart so i'll give you props for that...if EC had all their people we would of def. beat them no doubt :-)
 

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and i'll say it again....ny and nj is not together! why should they be? b/c yall are next to each other?? what a stupid reason....the only reason md/va is together b/c we BOTH goto EVERY tourny together...tournies every week are specified for both md/va...we train with each other ALL the time...we are never rivals against each other....ny and nj do NOT goto every tourny together...have seperate PRs...and thus not the same region...stop trying to pull random **** just to try to make yourself look better...and now your trying to give yourself ally?? ROFLMAO.....if he doesnt live in nj...hes not part of it...how stupid is that saying you have players that arent even from that region
This ignorance has to stop, dude.

We go to each other's tournies like ALL THE ****ING TIME. The last Long Island event had mad crazy NJ attendance. Each scene is big enough to just have its own PR.

edit: that strategy vs WC did seem very smart so i'll give you props for that...if EC had all their people we would of def. beat them no doubt :-)
Thanks.
 

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This ignorance has to stop, dude.

We go to each other's tournies like ALL THE ****ING TIME. The last Long Island event had mad crazy NJ attendance. Each scene is big enough to just have its own PR.



Thanks.
see look at that?
" the last long island even had mad crazy NJ attendance"
^^^ right there
you were never hear something like that from md/va...why? b/c we are considered the same region...there is never a tourny thats specified to one region....there are always NY tournies and NJ tournies....rightthere...SEPERATE tournies...for seperate regions
you guys going to each others tournies "alot" is wayyy diff. then both regions being at the same tourny EVERY week...even if md/va was big enough to have its own PR we wouldnt b/c we are the same region
there is no way ny/nj are the same region
 

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see look at that?
" the last long island even had mad crazy NJ attendance"
^^^ right there
you were never hear something like that from md/va...why? b/c we are considered the same region...there is never a tourny thats specified to one region....there are always NY tournies and NJ tournies....rightthere...SEPERATE tournies...for seperate regions
you guys going to each others tournies "alot" is wayyy diff. then both regions being at the same tourny EVERY week...even if md/va was big enough to have its own PR we wouldnt b/c we are the same region
there is no way ny/nj are the same region
You're just being overly elitist here about it.

Just because we don't share a PR or combine our events doesn't mean we're not one region. We don't need to be as close as MD/VA to be one region. You're not the standard.

We compete together all the time. We team with each other. We play with each other constantly. We're the same region. It's just our scene is MUCH larger, so we have seperate PRs and our events are farther from each other, but we STILL compete together all the time. NY and NJ events having half their attendance from the other state isn't rare.
 

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You're just being overly elitist here about it.

Just because we don't share a PR or combine our events doesn't mean we're not one region. We don't need to be as close as MD/VA to be one region. You're not the standard.

We compete together all the time. We team with each other. We play with each other constantly. We're the same region. It's just our scene is MUCH larger, so we have seperate PRs and our events are farther from each other, but we STILL compete together all the time. NY and NJ events having half their attendance from the other state isn't rare.
the point of calling something ONE region is implying you do everything together....which includes a tourny for the whole region...not 2 seperate tournies.....ive talked to people in texas and they tell me how they each live hours and hours apart...yet they all goto ONE tourny...hmmm i wonder why?? b/c they are all apart of ONE region...ny/nj does not do that....everything you do is completely seperate...and the only reason the stuff shared is being shared is b/c of the fact yall happen to be close to each other....but not the same region
 

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ny/nj does not do that....everything you do is completely seperate...and the only reason the stuff shared is being shared is b/c of the fact yall happen to be close to each other....but not the same region
It's really not seperate...we DO attend the same events. Everyone goes to Inui's events and Alex's which are the 2 most popular tournys in this region(tristate). NJ also attends events held in NY like gametable, Gauntlet, etc....I'm not certain what you mean by us being seperate. We are all constantly at the same events.
 

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seems like we both have different meaning of the word "consistant"....by consistant i mean every single tourny.....not ONCE has there been a tourny thats been all VA with no MD...or vice versa.....not a single tourny...ny/nj cant come close to saying that
what both your arguments sound like are "eh wer kinda like close to a same region...so we should be considered one"
your either the exact same region or your arent...the reason like inui's or alex strife tourny are popular is b/c the attendence is huge...and since ny is so close..they;re like "heck theres a big tourny not too far from here...lets goto it"....again...its b/c you guys are very close to each other...not the same region
when ppl are like "who is anti?" how many people say "he 1st or 2nd in ny/nj"....none! they all say "he the best in ny...thats b/c ny is seperate from nj...if ppl said "who is meep"....how many people are gonna say "hes the best in md"...none! they are all gonna say "hes the best in md/va...b/c we are the same region
just b/c you guys are somewhat close to a region....doesnt mean your ARE the same region
 

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the point of calling something ONE region is implying you do everything together....which includes a tourny for the whole region...not 2 seperate tournies.....ive talked to people in texas and they tell me how they each live hours and hours apart...yet they all goto ONE tourny...hmmm i wonder why?? b/c they are all apart of ONE region...ny/nj does not do that....everything you do is completely seperate...and the only reason the stuff shared is being shared is b/c of the fact yall happen to be close to each other....but not the same region
Again, you're not taking everything into account.

Do you know how incredibly densely populated NYC and NJ are? Like, MUCH MUCH MUCH moreso than MD or VA. A bajillion times more densely populated. We also have more people by a very large amount.

MD/VA also is just MARYLAND NORTHERN VIRGINIA, much like NY/NJ is CENTRAL NEW JERSEY TO SOUTHERN NEW YORK.

They are both the same region because they compete together, train together, team together, are in the same crews together, etc.

If we ever have tournaments on the same day, it's because our population total and population density both dwarf yours tremendously, which also explains the need for seperate PRs.
 

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seems like we both have different meaning of the word "consistant"....by consistant i mean every single tourny.....not ONCE has there been a tourny thats been all VA with no MD...or vice versa.....not a single tourny...ny/nj cant come close to saying that
what both your arguments sound like are "eh wer kinda like close to a same region...so we should be considered one"
your either the exact same region or your arent...the reason like inui's or alex strife tourny are popular is b/c the attendence is huge...and since ny is so close..they;re like "heck theres a big tourny not too far from here...lets goto it"....again...its b/c you guys are very close to each other...not the same region
when ppl are like "who is anti?" how many people say "he 1st or 2nd in ny/nj"....none! they all say "he the best in ny...thats b/c ny is seperate from nj...if ppl said "who is meep"....how many people are gonna say "hes the best in md"...none! they are all gonna say "hes the best in md/va...b/c we are the same region
just b/c you guys are somewhat close to a region....doesnt mean your ARE the same region
Before I continue, can you answer a few things for me? I don't follow your region so I'd like to know a few things. On average how many players attend your events? Also, what is considered a lot of people at one event granted it all being MD/VA players?

I'll continue after that, because all I can currently address is your statement of us not being at the same events all the time, EVERY single event maybe not. Maybe, I don't know. I dont follow every player but a vast majority of tournys we are all together.
 

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Again, you're not taking everything into account.

Do you know how incredibly densely populated NYC and NJ are? Like, MUCH MUCH MUCH moreso than MD or VA. A bajillion times more densely populated. We also have more people by a very large amount.

MD/VA also is just MARYLAND NORTHERN VIRGINIA, much like NY/NJ is CENTRAL NEW JERSEY TO SOUTHERN NEW YORK.

They are both the same region because they compete together, train together, team together, are in the same crews together, etc.

If we ever have tournaments on the same day, it's because our population total and population density both dwarf yours tremendously, which also explains the need for seperate PRs.
a size of states should have nothing to do with it...there is no rules or regulation on how big or small a region or a state can be so you talking about how big ny/nj or how small md/va is, is complete nonsense fool! <---see what i did there heh

the fact that EVERYONE looks at you guys as different region also proves my point...again with my example of anti...noone's gonna say hes 1st or 2nd in ny/nj....people are gnna say hes 1st in ny...alot of tht comes from diff. PR....doesnt matter how big a region is...if its truley a region then its gonna have 1 PR for THE WHOLE REASON...no matter what...theres no way around it...i dont care how big it is .....thats like saying if md/va was GIGANTIC (which it isnt even close ) that we should have seperate rankings....i'll be ranked 1st in my neighborhood lmao...it doesnt work like that.....regions have one PR for their region nd thats it....you should seperate regions to have ppl be ranked in part of their region...thats just...stupid

Before I continue, can you answer a few things for me? I don't follow your region so I'd like to know a few things. On average how many players attend your events? Also, what is considered a lot of people at one event granted it all being MD/VA players?

I'll continue after that, because all I can currently address is your statement of us not being at the same events all the time, EVERY single event maybe not. Maybe, I don't know. I dont follow every player but a vast majority of tournys we are all together.
sure....its good to be addressed professionally instead of the ignorant stuborn FOOL! <--see what i did thre again haha
our events are small.....we have on average 20-30 ppl per tourny...we have bigger tournies probably once a month or something like that...but our average tournies do consist of that few people.
for md/va...alot of people would be 50-60...for us thats considered huge
although i do not like where these questions are going b/c i dont think size has anything to do with a region...there has to be big nd small regions...not all regions are gonna be around the same size

my 2 biggest points you guys have seperate PRs and not have a tourny EVERY week thats specified for both states which all of both states will atend....doesntmatter what else you guys do....with those 2 points theres no way it can be a region
 

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Your view is just different.

We compete together, train together, are in the same crews, attend the same events consistently, compete together, are friends, and all that stuff just like MD and VA are.

We need seperate PRs and have events on the same days because our population total and population density are the most extreme in the entire nation, and you can't just disregard that because you feel like it.
 

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Your view is just different.

We compete together, train together, are in the same crews, attend the same events consistently, compete together, are friends, and all that stuff just like MD and VA are.

We need seperate PRs and have events on the same days because our population total and population density are the most extreme in the entire nation, and you can't just disregard that because you feel like it.
if your too big that you need to have diff. PR...then your too big to be the same regions

what if ny/nj started going to midwest all the time....what if yall trained together, put some of them in your crews, attended alot of the tournies like ally is doing, like considering competing with each other...and even happen to be friends with each other

would that make you guys all of the sudden the same region too?!?!?!?!!? i think not
 

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if your too big that you need to have diff. PR...then your too big to be the same regions
No, it just means we're huge. Our tournaments have 50+ every time with attendance from both states. Yours have ~30 or even less.

what if ny/nj started going to midwest all the time....what if yall trained together, put some of them in your crews, attended alot of the tournies like ally is doing, like considering competing with each other...and even happen to be friends with each other

would that make you guys all of the sudden the same region too?!?!?!?!!? i think not
That is a ridiculously extremely situation. Just look at a map, broski. NY and NJ border each other. Most NJ events are up north, and most NYC events are in the city. Hmm, would you look at that, they are right next to each other just like MD and northern VA.
 

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No, it just means we're huge. Our tournaments have 50+ every time with attendance from both states. Yours have ~30 or even less.



That is a ridiculously extremely situation. Just look at a map, broski. NY and NJ border each other. Most NJ events are up north, and most NYC events are in the city. Hmm, would you look at that, they are right next to each other just like MD and northern VA.

again....PRs are to see whose the best in their REGION....not "whose better in this section in the region" just b/c you have alot of ppl doesnt mean you get to end the rules...you guys dont bend the rules b/c your not the same region

i was giving you that example b/c there were the reasons that YOU gave ME for being the same reason...so i gave you an example with the same stipulations to prove you wrong...just b/c you close doesnt mean anything....just b/c md/va is close doesnt mean anything...wer one region b/c we attend every tourny with eachother...never seperate...if there are EVER two tournies happening in our ONE region....the TOs ALWAYS talk to each other and make an agreement tohave their tournies on seperate days...thats why we're one region
 

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I don't consider us the same region either, but not for the same reason you don't. I personally think region size IS a big deal. I mean, our tournies consist of central NJ and the border of NY with it(southern NY like Inui said). These are the active parts of the state and they are close and attend the same events all the time. Upstate NY is never at anything we have(I cant even think of any upstate ny players off hand). If you consider your own region(MD/VA) as a whole even though it involves 2 different states like ours, simply bc you all attend the same events then I think that'd make ours the same by that logic.

The only reason I consider you guys the same region is precisely bc of your shortage of players. It's easier to combine them since individually the states would look foolish with their own PR. Our region doesnt have this problem. We have more than enough people to seperate our states. Population is a big deal to me.
 

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again....PRs are to see whose the best in their REGION....not "whose better in this section in the region" just b/c you have alot of ppl doesnt mean you get to end the rules...you guys dont bend the rules b/c your not the same region
The only "rules" here are rules you're making up.

It doesn't matter if YOU don't acknowledge us as one region. A lot of us consider ourselves one region regardless of what you think.

It just benefits you to not consider us one region.

-You'd be massacred in an NY/NJ vs MD/VA crew battle.
-Us being combined makes us the strongest region in the world, dwarfing yours easily.
-MD/VA has lots and lots of pride in themselves and how close the two states are, so for some reason you're feeling like "oh how dare NY/NJ think they are LIKE US AND AS CLOSE AS US ARGH WE'RE SPECIAL" which is just dumb.

So, yeah, you're making up rules that don't matter.

We have seperate PRs and more tournies...because we crush you (and everywhere else) in terms of population. It's needed.
 

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Wow at this argument.

Maybe not in the past, but definitely now, NJ/NY are as close if not almost as close as MD/VA. Just like with 2 NJ tournies on the same date, a NY tourney host will get angry with a NJ tourney host for hosting the same day cause they'll be stealing a good portion of each tourney's attendance.

Inui, Candy has clearly proven himself at Apex so he's @ Razor's level imo. It's like saying Spam sucks cause he hasn't entered tournies recently. Its obvious he still ***** us all and people currently think he can take on/beat ADHD. lol @ their strong confidence though.

Either way, NJ/NY sucks for not getting Spam to play in tourney and MD/VA wins if they truly get back Azen if we have no Spam :p
 

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I don't consider us the same region either, but not for the same reason you don't. I personally think region size IS a big deal. I mean, our tournies consist of central NJ and the border of NY with it(southern NY like Inui said). These are the active parts of the state and they are close and attend the same events all the time. Upstate NY is never at anything we have(I cant even think of any upstate ny players off hand). If you consider your own region(MD/VA) as a whole even though it involves 2 different states like ours, simply bc you all attend the same events then I think that'd make ours the same by that logic.

The only reason I consider you guys the same region is precisely bc of your shortage of players. It's easier to combine them since individually the states would look foolish with their own PR. Our region doesnt have this problem. We have more than enough people to seperate or states. Population is a big deal to me.
why would md/va look foolish seperate??? NJ by itself has adhd atomsk and ksizzle...those are the 3 ppl that nj are known for that can compete nationally.....if VA was by itself it would have chu azen me and boss....plus other REALLY good players like korn and forte that just havent really gone out of state....md still has meep neo and ps...3 big noticable names just like nj....so no i dont think md and va would look foolish if they were seperate

im not sure which part of NY is which....but from what i see...the top PRs from NY (anti dabuz shadow snakee NL jash) are NOT at every tourny with any part of nj (adhd atomsk ksizzle inui)

if you do want to use size as a stipulation...thats fine...only if your consistant with it....if its too big that it NEEDS two seperate PRs....then it should also be too big to be considered one region...thats what inui is not realizing
 
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