Elma for Smash Ultimate: Strength comes from experience. That’s true on any planet.

[Homelessvagrant]

Sadly, we don't have any complete sales data for Xenoblade Chronicles and Xenoblade Chronicles X. In terms of digital sales, the only known data we have is Famitsu's estimate of ~20k digital copies for the first month in Japan.

Between the original and eShop release as well as the New 3DS port, XC may very well be a million by now. The combined sales of Xenoblade Chronicles X and the eventual port will almost certainly cross over a million.

Wait is VGChartz not a reliable source?

http://www.vgchartz.com/db/game.php?id=71409

They have it labeled as .84m Globally

 

[Bebe Mignon]

Wait is VGChartz not a reliable source?

http://www.vgchartz.com/db/game.php?id=71409

They have it labeled as .84m Globally

Nope. There is a reason why VGChartz is banned on sites like ResetEra.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

oh okay I wasn't aware. Good to know

 

[PSIGuy]

I actually really enjoy Elma's voice for some reason. Dunno why. Sounds collected and professional to me.

Nothing gets me relaxed like listening to my CO saying SLIDING SLINGER! GET IN CLOSE AND LAND A BLOW!
Hopefully the X port has JP VA so I can listen to some different melee art requests. Both of her voices are pretty good, though.

 

[Luviant X]

We could possibly hear about the next character by Tuesday (Monday, US time) from Famitsu.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2018...timate-news-it-will-likely-leak-next-tuesday/

I hope the Direct beats it. I prefer a character be revealed through a trailer. When Shulk was leaked for Smash 4, while his reveal trailer was still hype, I wasn't half as excited as I would've been if I didn't already know he was in the game.

 

[Wisehunter]

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a topic on Gamefaqs just brought to light how Rex and Pyra's designs were conceived during the time period of the Project plan after all. Here's the link from the topic:
https://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/...2-production-notes-3-character-design-part-1/

Correct me if I am wrong, but this tells us that he started at February 2015. It does not tells us when he finished.

The special edition says characters were finalised on half through 2016.

 

[Luviant X]

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Correct me if I am wrong, but this tells us that he started at February 2015. It does not tells us when he finished.

The special edition says characters were finalised on half through 2016.

I noticed that, too. That link says he only "first heard about plans" for XC2 in February 2015. And as Wisehunter mentioned, the XC2 characters were actually finalized in 2016, after Ultimate's project plan was decided on.

 

[Wisehunter]

This is what is what I could find in the Internet about the special edition :


April 5, 2016: Niall (colored ver.)
April 27, 2016: Addam (outlined ver.)
May 17, 2016: Nia (outlined/colored ver.)
May 24, 2016: Vandham (outlined/colored ver.)
June 5, 2016: Roc (colored ver.)
June 6, 2016: Poppi (outlined ver.), Morag (outlined/colored ver.), Brighid (outlined ver.), Lora (outlined/colored ver.)
June 7, 2016: Fan la Norne (outlined/colored ver.)
June 10, 2016: Roc (colored close up of Roc's face)
June 12, 2016: Amalthus (outlined ver.)
June 13, 2016: Tora (outlined/colored ver.), Pandoria (colored ver.), Addam (outlined ver.)
June 21, 2016: Poppi QT (outlined/colored ver.), Lila (outlined ver.)
June 25, 2016: Mythra (outlined ver.), Niall (outlined ver.)
June 28, 2016: Pandoria (outlined ver.)
July 25, 2016: Zeke (outlined ver.)
August 2, 2016: Dromarch (concept art)
August 30, 2016: Pyra (facial expressions)
September 6, 2016: Nia (facial expressions)
September 12, 2016: Rex & Nia (facial expressions)
September 13, 2016: Brighid (facial expressions)
September 17, 2016: Poppi (facial expressions)
September 19, 2016: Poppi (facial expressions)
October 2, 2016: Morag (facial expressions)
October 4, 2016: Mythra (colored ver.)
November 8, 2016: Mythra (facial expressions)
February 7, 2017: Mythra (sketch)
February 22, 2017: Zeke (colored & detailed design of Zeke's eyepatch LOL)

 

[Alpswat]

BTW. I'm all for that Elma Support Discord

 

[Fierymew]

I just want to confirm if anyone else is making this server or not? Because I'm about to make it, if nobody else is

 

[Cetus]

I just want to confirm if anyone else is making this server or not? Because I'm about to make it, if nobody else is

Well, looks like my suggestion actually did something. Sure, I'd certainly join in the Elma support. Haven't played XCX though, so might have to change that at some point.

 

[Fierymew]

Alright. I've made the skeleton of the Discord, but it's about 4:40 here, so I'm going to bed soon. It should be done sometime tomorrow!

 

[Cetus]

meme chat or bust

 

[Fierymew]

meme chat or bust

Don't worry. We got a meme chat

 

[Rie Sonomura]

what about CoroCoro? If the Famitsu issue doesn’t give any new info, CoroCoro is another option

 

[Fierymew]

Ok, everyone. I think the Discord is ready!

There are some things that are subject to change, but otherwise I think I've got everything good, you guys can help me make sure I've got everything in order.

https://discord.gg/t7MUEV

 

[Midnight Torch]

I lean more toward Rex, but Elma would still be amazing. Count me in!

 

[PlasmaSnow12]

I think Elma would be cool, I really liked her in X. I could see her either using a weapon swap gimmick, where she goes from swords to guns or a mixed set where she just uses different weapons for different attacks.
I'd personally prefer the former, I like the idea of quick changes to a moveset mid battle.
I'd definitely play her.

 

[Cap’nKazam]

Love sci-fi fighters, which we don't get very much of in Smash, and while I haven't played Xenoblade Chronicles X yet, it's been on my list and I like what I've seen of Elma. Would love to play her in Smash. Please add me to supporters.

 

[Fire Tactician]

You can add me to the supporter list!

While at a base level, I prefer Rex, Pyra, and Mythra, I'd be way more excited to see Elma in the roster (since I think the others have DLC potential). XCX was a wonderful game with fantastic locales and music, so I'd love to see it represented through Elma and a stage (NLA? Primordia? Atop a Skell flying around Mira?). Using Elma in XC2 reminded me about how much I love XCX, so I really would love to see her appear in Smash, especially since XCX was arguably the most ambitious Wii U game and came out right around the time of the supposed Smash Ultimate project plan.

As a fighter, I'm sure I'd love using her- we don't have another dual wielding swordsman (unless you count Pit's bow), so sword and gunplay mixed together has a lot of potential for fun. Getting back to an earlier point, while I might like the XC2 crew more as characters, I think I'd enjoy playing as Elma more. Fingers crossed!

I do think that this upcoming Direct is do or die for XC2 with Torna coming out next week. If we don't get anything Xenoblade related, I think Elma's chances shoot way up, since it would be a prime time to spotlight XC2 with Rex and co.

 

[Midnight Torch]

Found this. Must make my own.

 

[Fire Tactician]

Found this. Must make my own.

I jokingly did that with my very little Fire Emblem merch that I had before the July Smash 4 Direct (I think it was Awakening, its box, my 3DS, and something else), only for Robin, my most wanted character, to be revealed alongside Lucina, my second favorite FE character (C H O S E N B O I S) the next day. You never know.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

I jokingly did that with my very little Fire Emblem merch that I had before the July Smash 4 Direct (I think it was Awakening, its box, my 3DS, and something else), only for Robin, my most wanted character, to be revealed alongside Lucina, my second favorite FE character (C H O S E N B O I S) the next day. You never know.

DO!
IT!

You have to do it the day before the Direct airs.

 

[Fire Tactician]

DO!
IT!

You have to do it the day before the Direct airs.

That's the problem... if I do it for this Direct, I think I might summon an XC2 character (my personal preference is Rex with Pyra/Mythra supporting him like Pokemon Trainer does, but also wouldn't mind Pyra with a Mythra Echo Fighter)!

If I wait till the next Direct, I think I'll have a better shot at summoning Elma, but my brother would never forgive me for not summoning an XC2 rep! AHHH!

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Someone in the main thread is saying if Isaac was the character that would have originally been revealed in the original Direct, his reveal would now be saved for another time, because of...unfortunate implications. They’d undoubtedly have to reshoot certain things for the direct now since some of the announcements were on Twitter instead.

Think Elma could take Isaac’s place for a reveal if that’s the case?

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

Someone in the main thread is saying if Isaac was the character that would have originally been revealed in the original Direct, his reveal would now be saved for another time, because of...unfortunate implications. They’d undoubtedly have to reshoot certain things for the direct now since some of the announcements were on Twitter instead.

Think Elma could take Isaac’s place for a reveal if that’s the case?

To be honest, I think Elma being the one announced in the first place in this direct would be the best bet for her, especially if it was to further promote the Torna DLC or a X port.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this upcoming direct doesn't seem right for Issac to appear just yet. That's just how I feel however.

 

[Nonno Umby]

Someone in the main thread is saying if Isaac was the character that would have originally been revealed in the original Direct, his reveal would now be saved for another time, because of...unfortunate implications. They’d undoubtedly have to reshoot certain things for the direct now since some of the announcements were on Twitter instead.

Think Elma could take Isaac’s place for a reveal if that’s the case?

Why would it have been Isaac time? And what would have lead to him being postponed? I don't really know much about Isaac or Golden Sun, so that's why I'm asking...


But anyway I always felt that Elma was the one to be revealed in this Direct, and now that it will air the same week as Torna's release then she would be a great choice for a switch.

 

[Calamitas]

Someone in the main thread is saying if Isaac was the character that would have originally been revealed in the original Direct, his reveal would now be saved for another time, because of...unfortunate implications. They’d undoubtedly have to reshoot certain things for the direct now since some of the announcements were on Twitter instead.

Think Elma could take Isaac’s place for a reveal if that’s the case?

That would still leave the issue of Famitsu, though. Isn't it a bit late to completely change what character they're talking about?

 

[Fierymew]

Someone in the main thread is saying if Isaac was the character that would have originally been revealed in the original Direct, his reveal would now be saved for another time, because of...unfortunate implications. They’d undoubtedly have to reshoot certain things for the direct now since some of the announcements were on Twitter instead.

Think Elma could take Isaac’s place for a reveal if that’s the case?

I don’t understand why Isaac would be cut from this Direct, assuming that he was originally supposed to be revealed.

But I do think that Issac and Elma would be prime candidates for being shown off at regular Directs, so if he was supposed to be here, but was cut for whatever reason, Elma would be a good replacement.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Having played GS back in the day, Isaac is a Venus Adept, using Earth Psynergy (the GS universe’s Magic). One of his spells is Earthquake and

...yeah, I’m sure you can see the unfortunate implications now

 

[Wisehunter]

Isaac is kinda of a earth bender...

 

[Fierymew]

Having played GS back in the day, Isaac is a Venus Adept, using Earth Psynergy (the GS universe’s Magic). One of his spells is Earthquake and

...yeah, I’m sure you can see the unfortunate implications now

Ooohhh. I see now. Also, I watched someone stream it one time, but my memory is a bit hazy on it.

But wasn’t his home town also destroyed in an earthquake?

Either way, yea. I can see why he couldn’t be revealed now.

But I kind of expected Elma to be the character reveal anyway, because of the Torna thing, and the possibility of an X port.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Something tells me that as they were wrapping things up with Torna, they also started working on the potential X port

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Something tells me that as they were wrapping things up with Torna, they also started working on the potential X port

Nah, the X port has probably been in development for a long time, they probably even outsourced it like they did Xenoblade 3D, possibly even to the same studio. Doesn't make much sense for monolith to work on a port when someone else could do it and they could get to work on a new game.

 

[Nonno Umby]

Having played GS back in the day, Isaac is a Venus Adept, using Earth Psynergy (the GS universe’s Magic). One of his spells is Earthquake and

...yeah, I’m sure you can see the unfortunate implications now

Isaac is kinda of a earth bender...

Damn you are right, I completely forgot about that aspect of Isaac...yeah, revealing him now would be dangerous...


But again, Elma would be a likely substitute considering that Torna is releasing this week and a port of X is all but confirmed.

 

[Izayoi]

How's a port of X confirmed?
..I remember hearing about how the developers said they'd be interested in porting it, though.

If it's true, I can't wait to replay that game all over again.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I haven't played any of the Xenoblade games, but Elma looks like a very cool character that would be fun to play as in Smash. Count me in as a supporter.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

Regarding a XCX port, this is what Takahashi had to say on the matter from a few months ago.

Thank you for that feedback. I think we’re currently completely focused on creating Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and even after I go back to Japan, I have a mountain of tasks that I need to overcome. But I would love to think about it, after the development for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is completed.

Takahashi is probably discussing plans with Nintendo on a port currently, especially since development for Torna ~ The Golden Country is pretty much done.

 

[Izayoi]

Regarding a XCX port, this is what Takahashi had to say on the matter from a few months ago.



Takahashi is probably discussing plans with Nintendo on a port currently, especially since development for Torna ~ The Golden Country is pretty much done.

-rubs hands in anticipation-


Also, guys, ever heard the live version of Don't Worry and Uncontrollable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUytYGl98K0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPhiN7FqWE

 

[aarchak]

Also, guys, ever heard the live version of Don't Worry and Uncontrollable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUytYGl98K0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPhiN7FqWE

That's awesome! I didn't know they did that!