Elma for Smash Ultimate: Strength comes from experience. That’s true on any planet.

[aarchak]

Actually, yeah, count me in too, Elma is just the best.

 

[NintenZ]

Please tell me The Key We’ve Lost is a track in the game as well.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

I just added 13 new people to the support list. The total count is 153. Let's keep recruiting more BLADEs!

Thought this would be interesting to share with y'all.

From Xenoblade JP's Twitter:
Elma: 5.3k likes, 3.6k retweets, 103 comments
Shulk & Fiora: 4.7k likes, 3.8k retweets, 67 comments
T-ELOS: 5.6k likes, 4.7k retweets, 134 comments
KOS-MOS: 11k likes, 10.1k retweets, 151 comments

It's good to see Elma is very popular. I'm already seeing a ton of love for her all over: Twitter, YouTube, ResetEra, etc. Just based on Twitter alone, I've already seen a ton of demand for a XCX port and sequel from both the Japanese and Western fans. This bodes well for the future of the X series, IMO. Her appearance in Smash would significantly increase interest for the X series as well. Hoping for the best.

 

[ArkhaosZero]

Seriously, Elma as a character would rock. She's cool as hell, has a ton of moveset potential, and would help push Xenoblade forward. Plus, she'd likely come with New LA as a stage alongside that rockin' soundtrack.

I've seen mentioned on Reddit that Cross as an Elma Echo would be a possibility. I think that is such a kickass idea. Elma's the most important character in X's story, but Cross is technically the main character, so repping both makes perfect sense.

 

[Red Dead Redeemed]

Having never played any of the Xenoblade games and not having any real idea who Elma is aside from some quick gameplay footage I've seen but was on board just cause the character was cool, the video introducing Elma to XBC2 really sold me on her. Her character design, stylish flair, wonderful voice acting, badass demeanor and moveset potential is just way too good.

 

[MainJPW]

I want Elma now. Support.

 

[aarchak]

If they add Elma, they NEED to add a lot of XCX music. I want another 34 songs in this game, especially this one:

 

[Homelessvagrant]

well I assure you even if Elma isn't in the game we'll be getting XCX and XC2 music in this version of smash. That is one thing I think we can all agree is a near absolute.

 

[Gameguy1996]

Unfortunately on another forum site I frequent people are already saying Elma's chances are dead since (admittedly) a Smash reveal would've made sense alongside this one.

At the end of the day if Sakurai wants a character playable they will be in and there's no reason to think there is a pattern anymore after no 3rd party newcomer being shown at E3 and Simon not being saved until October to tie into the new season of the Castlevania Netflix series.

 

[NintenRob]

Question, while I know there's a lot of debate on if we have seen every stage or not.

But let's assume we have, how do you think this would affect Elma or any other Xenoblade characters not in the first one chance to be in Smash?

 

[Nonno Umby]

Question, while I know there's a lot of debate on if we have seen every stage or not.

But let's assume we have, how do you think this would affect Elma or any other Xenoblade characters not in the first one chance to be in Smash?

It's really a double edged sword. On one hand you would think that not having an X stage would be a problem for her, on the other that would mean that all the remaining newcomers are from series already featured in Smash, so a chance of a new Xenoblade character would also increase.

 

[Royaru]

Question, while I know there's a lot of debate on if we have seen every stage or not.

But let's assume we have, how do you think this would affect Elma or any other Xenoblade characters not in the first one chance to be in Smash?

As I said pages before, FE has only three stage but they have seven (five without Echo) characters, also in melee there werent stage from FE but we had characters. The number stage mean nothing, Elma could join without stage.

 

[Jibblypuff_]

Question, while I know there's a lot of debate on if we have seen every stage or not.

But let's assume we have, how do you think this would affect Elma or any other Xenoblade characters not in the first one chance to be in Smash?

Theoretically, it could be possible that only newcomers from unrepresented franchises got stages. Nothing really suggests that though.

 

[NintenRob]

As I said pages before, FE has only three stage but they have seven (five without Echo) characters, also in melee there werent stage from FE but we had characters. The number stage mean nothing, Elma could join without stage.

That's an interesting point but one I don't think holds up as well.

Although Fire Emblem has only 3 stages, two of them are very generic and one works for 3/7 of the characters

 

[lizard1929]

If there were no more stages and only characters that can be represented by the current stages. A lot of speculated characters would be disconfirmed.
Even then Guar Plains easily represent all Xenoblade as each game has grassy plains area. (Primordia, Gormott)

 

[Jibblypuff_]

I may be making a Smash Ultimate Elma speculation video soon. Could anyone help me find sources and the things relating to Hiroyuki Sawano's secret project? I'd appreciate it.

 

[Nonno Umby]

That's an interesting point but one I don't think holds up as well.

Although Fire Emblem has only 3 stages, two of them are very generic and one works for 3/7 of the characters

So what about other very speculated characters like Geno or Ken?

Geno doesn't fit in any of the mainline Mario stages, and surely not on the Mario Kart ones (one could argue that they could use Paper Mario, but it's grasping since they are different game series, so it isn't different from using Elma on Gaur Plain).

Ken has his own home stage, and since he is American why would he fight on Suzaku Castle?

 

[NintenRob]

So what about other very speculated characters like Geno or Ken?

Geno doesn't fit in any of the mainline Mario stages, and surely not on the Mario Kart ones (one could argue that they could use Paper Mario, but it's grasping since they are different game series, so it isn't different from using Elma on Gaur Plain).

Ken has his own home stage, and since he is American why would he fight on Suzaku Castle?

First of all, I don't think Geno is playable, in a way, I'm secretly hoping that the stage list and FF music actually means that he's not playable. But that's just me (but realistically, there are locations in SMRPG I'm pretty sure are stages, see Peach's Castle. And we also have a couple of generic Mushroom Kingdom locations as stages)

But Ken is just silly. Suzaku Castle is still a Street Fighter 2 location and Ken is in Street Fighter 2 (he'd also just be an echo fighter)



I wish Xenoblade had a new stage though.

 

[Deleted member]

I may be making a Smash Ultimate Elma speculation video soon. Could anyone help me find sources and the things relating to Hiroyuki Sawano's secret project? I'd appreciate it.

I'm 99% sure this is his original tweet:

本日はレコーディングになります。最初はマッショイくんのドラムから！！プログラムの詳細はまたどこかでお知らせ出来ればと思います。 pic.twitter.com/2VnnmcwGqW

— 澤野弘之 [nZk] (@sawano_nZk) March 29, 2018

I just hope the fact that we haven't seen any Xenoblade music on the site + Sawano's potential X remixes = Elma in Smash.

Edit: Link in case it doesn't load.

 

[Jibblypuff_]

I'm 99% sure this is his original tweet:

本日はレコーディングになります。最初はマッショイくんのドラムから！！プログラムの詳細はまたどこかでお知らせ出来ればと思います。 pic.twitter.com/2VnnmcwGqW

— 澤野弘之 [nZk] (@sawano_nZk) March 29, 2018

I just hope the fact that we haven't seen any Xenoblade music on the site + Sawano's potential X remixes = Elma in Smash.

Edit: Link in case it doesn't load.

Thanks! There was also one about Yoko Shimomura having a project around the same time. Do you know anything about that?

 

[Nonno Umby]

I just noticed a thing about Caitlin.
She liked the vast majority of replies under her tweet about Elma in Xenoblade 2, except the ones that namely drop Super Smash Bros.
And another interesting thing is that she did like all the more vague response, like mine "I hope this will not be the only Switch game where we will hear you as Elma... (;".

https://twitter.com/Nonno_Umby/status/1033054665137684482?s=09

IDK if it means anything, but...

 

[Jibblypuff_]

I just noticed a thing about Caitlin.
She liked the vast majority of replies under her tweet about Elma in Xenoblade 2, except the ones that namely drop Super Smash Bros.
And another interesting thing is that she did like all the more vague response, like mine "I hope this will not be the only Switch game where we will her you as Elma... (;".

https://twitter.com/Nonno_Umby/status/1033054665137684482?s=09

IDK if it means anything, but...

Not to Jinx anything but I think that's good news. I know people think it may be a bit crazy but I think the fact that she's just ignoring Smash stuff when she mentioned it around 2 weeks ago is very interesting. Perhaps they finally contacted her?

 

[Loz18-Echo]

Amazing seeing more people now pushing for Elma from just seeing her as a blade. Cmon Sakurai you know what to do

 

[Luviant X]

It's really a double edged sword. On one hand you would think that not having an X stage would be a problem for her, on the other that would mean that all the remaining newcomers are from series already featured in Smash, so a chance of a new Xenoblade character would also increase.

I agree with the latter. Elma not getting a stage does not hurt her chances. She'd be like Ridley and KKR--a new character for a series already in Smash that has a stage/s.

 

[Deleted member]

Thanks! There was also one about Yoko Shimomura having a project around the same time. Do you know anything about that?

I ran an advance search on her March 2018 tweets and came up with this, which I think is the one you're talking about? I'm not really sure but Google Translate says it roughly means "And what did you record the other day? ! Mr. Yamasaki Kei (@ KeiYamazaki 0913) drum, Strings Shohei Yoshida Strings (@ violin_uchu), Tp. Hayao Ito, Arranger Yuko Komiyama (@ comiyam)! Recording battle song covered w, recorded cool! I'm happy! I am looking forward to the day I can announce it ~".

Spoiler: Tweet 1

そして先日レコーディングしたお知らせ？を！ドラムは山崎慶さん（@KeiYamazaki0913）、弦は吉田翔平さんストリングス（@violin_uchu）、Tp.は伊藤駿さん、アレンジャーは小見山優子さん（@comiyam）！バトル曲まみれwのレコーディング、カッコ良いの録れました〜！嬉しー！発表できる日が楽しみです〜 pic.twitter.com/1hIMnzuzHo

— Yoko Shimomura｜下村陽子 (@midiplex) March 18, 2018

I think it's about the Vega Stage remix since it appears to tie into this tweet about Ultimate:

Spoiler: Tweet 2

今回も『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ SPECIAL』にアレンジにて参加させて頂きました！『ストリートファイターII』よりバルログの曲をセルフアレンジです。公式サイトにて視聴できますので是非チェックしてみて下さいね。イントロのピアノは僭越ながら私自身が弾きました〜！https://t.co/kLuDYHtCTT

— Yoko Shimomura｜下村陽子 (@midiplex) June 13, 2018

Here's what Google Translate says about that one: "Again this time I was allowed to participate in "Super Smash Bros. Smash Bros. SPECIAL"! From "Street Fighter II" it is a self-arrangement of songs of Valog. You can watch it on official website so please check it by all means. I played the piano of the intro while 僭 越 ~!"

Idk Japanese so I could be wrong but I think these are the two you're looking for.

 

[Jibblypuff_]

Thank you! I appreciate it.

 

[SebasSancy]

Looooove this (image could be spoiler if you didnt play XC2)

Spoiler

 

[FrostShock]

I just noticed a thing about Caitlin.
She liked the vast majority of replies under her tweet about Elma in Xenoblade 2, except the ones that namely drop Super Smash Bros.
And another interesting thing is that she did like all the more vague response, like mine "I hope this will not be the only Switch game where we will her you as Elma... (;".

https://twitter.com/Nonno_Umby/status/1033054665137684482?s=09

IDK if it means anything, but...

She also pinned her Tweet confirming that she was playing Elma again.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

Well, after over a year of not being on this site, I have returned and after seeing her appear in XB2, all I can say is this:

Elma for Smash.

Please Sakurai?

 

[KatKit]

Let's pray that this is foreshadowing:

 

[NintenZ]

Let's pray that this is foreshadowing:

This is literally just Monolith playing with my emotions at this point.

If it doesn’t lead up to Smash I’m gonna cry internally.

 

[Swaggy-G]

People are looking too much into the Twitter stuff. Her liking posts doesn't mean anything, and plenty of voice actors/creators/whatever have done so in the past even when they didn't end up in smash.
On a more hopeful note, keep in mind that NDA's are a thing. She would be allowed to lie if someone asks her about Smash.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Let's pray that this is foreshadowing:

If she isn't in now I'm gonna fight every single employee at monolithsoft, there's literally no reason to not mention others like Rex and KOSMOS here, and when nia asks who "everyone" is, it goes unanswered, and my mind just went straight to "everyone is here"

They need to quit playin

 

[Louisacommie]

Elma is a good 2nd to last reveal ( the last one being true "wtf cant believe this so hype")

 

[PlasmWraith]

Even if Elma isn't in Smash, I'm very happy to have her in XC2, and if any of y'all missed out on XCX but are getting interested now I hope you do go back and give it a play, even if it means undusting a Wii U. It's not all that much like XC1 or XC2, but it's a very very good game and extremely underrated. Just don't expect mechs straight from the start-line.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

I love how they actually gave us additional details about Elma and the hero. It's pretty clear that the hero is originally from Japan (remember New Tokyo from the artbook?). It is sorta implied between her conversation with Zeke and Pandoria that she was in a romantic relationship with the hero. She also shared a small but neat background history about her universe.

Also, I totally checked out the Argentum notice board after seeing what the Nopon Archsage said about him writing so many stories about Shulk, Elma, and Rex being together... He's a big fat liar... It's just stupid Falala on the board...

 

[Homelessvagrant]

Just don't expect mechs straight from the start-line.

That's not a bad thing though. I felt like they introduced Mechs at the perfect time.

 

[PlasmWraith]

That's not a bad thing though. I felt like they introduced Mechs at the perfect time.

Absolutely, I agree. I avoided all information on XCX before it came out, the most I knew is that it had mechs but I wasn't sure if it was cinematic, just a regular vehicle, or whatever. I think a lot of people see Skells and expect them from the start, but if you go in not expecting that then you can appreciate the feel of progression.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

I have to be honest with you guys. The first time or two I played through XCX I wasn't sold on much of what that game had to offer, but as I got to know the characters, journey through the plot, and do awesome things such as getting a bad ass mech, I realized it was a real gem. Elma in particular was one of my favorite characters for multiple reasons and it'd be wonderful to see her game get representation in Smash as well.

I'm probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said, but I can't help it. I'm hyped and am very tempted to start up X again while we wait for her possible announcement. At the very least, Ultimate needs to have X music or else it will be a badly missed opportunity.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

That's not a bad thing though. I felt like they introduced Mechs at the perfect time.

The way mechs are introduced is done really well imo, if you had mechs right at the start it would lessen the impact of basically being dropped in this unknown and hostile world, and unlocking the mechs and eventually the flight module has a nice sense of progression as it allows you to traverse the land faster and get access to areas you previously weren't able to.