Earthbound reps

[xianfeng]

But keep in mind not a single Earthbound game has been released worldwide. The one that was released in at least america only had pretty average sales. In Japan they are never the best sellers for their systems but they do well enough... So it really is a small franchise.

 

[Kirby knight]

Poo.

i've never played the games, but i've looked up Poo and hes the coolest. no doubt.

Poo is my favorite character in Earthbound ^_^, Starstorm ftw, although his chances are more suited to become an AT, but if he was a character it would be great and unexpected (I'm aware of how close to impossible it is).

But keep in mind not a single Earthbound game has been released worldwide. The one that was released in at least america only had pretty average sales. In Japan they are never the best sellers for their systems but they do well enough... So it really is a small franchise.

I never said that Earthbound/MOTHER wasn't one of the smaller Nintendo franchises it is small when compared to heavy hitters like, Mario, Pokemon, etc.

It's obvious that it made some mark though, otherwise why on earth would Sakurai add a Mother character in every single SSB game if it didn't make some sort of a impression?

-Knight

 

[Enigma14]

EB

2 elements that make it unique:

Set in natural settings albiet a few things added like dinos still being alive
Nature versus Science

WoW is magic and swords but its just some additictive game that most people I know play, I don't even like it.

 

[xianfeng]

Well I'm pretty sure he only put Ness in the first one because Mother 3 was originally supposed to be on the 64 and it would have been good advertising then he was about to replace him with Lucas in Melee but he didn't. I suppose he didn't want to scrap any characters in Melee as for Brawl Mother 3 has just been released in Japan last year so they are still all a buzz about him and excited about his game.

 

[Big-Cat]

EB

2 elements that make it unique:

Set in natural settings albiet a few things added like dinos still being alive
Nature versus Science

WoW is magic and swords but its just some additictive game that most people I know play, I don't even like it.

Isn't MOTHER 3's theme Nature vs. Technology? Technically, Technology is a Science, if I'm right.

 

[EarthboundMun]

If you want my opinion on who we can look forward to seeing in Brawl, the ones that have the greatest chance of getting in, newcomer-wise, are Lucas and Claus. Because Lucas was confirmed (a great day for me, by the way), that leaves Claus. Whether or not Claus will be playable, or some sort of inclusion to Adventure Mode, is up to question. Playable, he has a bit of potential, and you can expect him to have a good chance.

Frankly, though, I expect to only see Ness, Lucas and Claus to be playable representatives from the Mother series. This doesn't mean that I don't want to see more - Jeff and Flint would be excellent additions, as well, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[OmegaXXII]

we probably should have any other reps besides Ness, if any other do appear they should be AT's instead, (Paula, Poo) as for Lucas it seems he will be indded more powerful then Ness which is a good thing, but I hope his moveset is completly from Ness's

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

we probably should have any other reps besides Ness, if any other do appear they should be AT's instead, (Paula, Poo) as for Lucas it seems he will be indded more powerful then Ness which is a good thing, but I hope his moveset is completly from Ness's

Lucas never fights any enemy more powerful than Ness' to my knowledge so I don't know about that

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Actually, in terms of popularity with Nintendo franchises worldwide, it's more like:

1. Mario
2. Legend of Zelda
3. Donkey Kong
4. Kirby
5. Mother

Yes, worldwide, and Mother is Japan only, it's that popular in Japan.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Lucas never fights any enemy more powerful than Ness' to my knowledge so I don't know about that

um... I'm as bit confused about what you just said but yea I think only Ness and Lucas might be the only playable Earthbound reps

 

[Kirby knight]

Actually, in terms of popularity with Nintendo franchises worldwide, it's more like:

1. Mario
2. Legend of Zelda
3. Donkey Kong
4. Kirby
5. Mother

Yes, worldwide, and Mother is Japan only, it's that popular in Japan.

:/ Odd how did Pokemon not make that list...

-Knight

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

um... I'm as bit confused about what you just said but yea I think only Ness and Lucas might be the only playable Earthbound reps

I was just saying, if Ness and Lucas ever had a battle I think Ness would win because he was able to stand against the almost unstoppable Giygas and was able to travel through Magicant...and Lucas just defeated Pokey...

 

[adumbrodeus]

Ness

Lucas

That's all the game really needs, 5 reps is excessive, really for any game, even Mario.

But Ness' series would be MOTHER, would it not? Being as Earthbound was technically only one game?

Mother is the Japanese name for the entire series, Earthbound is the English name for the entire series, so no, that is incorrect, you are correct in saying either Earthbound or Mother has 3 games.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Mother is the Japanese name for the entire series, Earthbound is the English name for the entire series, so no, that is incorrect, you are correct in saying either Earthbound or Mother has 3 games.

Earthbound is only the translated name of one of the games in the Mother series...

...We don't know if Earthbound would carry onto if another game was releashed or not...

 

[Big-Cat]

Earthbound is only the translated name of one of the games in the Mother series...

...We don't know if Earthbound would carry onto if another game was releashed or not...

The original MOTHER was going to be called Earthbound so it's possible.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Earthbound is only the translated name of one of the games in the Mother series...

...We don't know if Earthbound would carry onto if another game was releashed or not...

Perhaps not, but it's the only title we have to go on since only one game was released stateside. A title is assumed to apply to the series unless proven otherwise.

 

[Genocide37]

*crosses fingers*

Whoa that $hits nice man, good job.

 

[xianfeng]

Actually, in terms of popularity with Nintendo franchises worldwide, it's more like:

1. Mario
2. Legend of Zelda
3. Donkey Kong
4. Kirby
5. Mother

Yes, worldwide, and Mother is Japan only, it's that popular in Japan.

No it wouldn't be anything like that at all. F-Zero would be up there I know that's extremelly popular in Japan with moderate popularity elsewhere, Fire Emblem huge in Japan and big elsewhere now, Animal Crossing is wildley popular and Metroid too allthough that's been declining in Japan as they hate FPS which the Prime series is. Your defintion of Worldwide is probably America and Japan, you're probably ignoring Europe and Australia. Mother is no where near top 5, maybe 7 or 8. Also you're dilusional if you think Mother is more popular than Pokemon.

 

[Little Red Corvette]

Actually, in terms of popularity with Nintendo franchises worldwide, it's more like:

1. Mario
2. Legend of Zelda
3. Donkey Kong
4. Kirby
5. Mother

Yes, worldwide, and Mother is Japan only, it's that popular in Japan.

C'mon, you're usually so smart and good - Pokemon is easily #2, and Fire Emblem and Metroid easily fit somewhere above Mother.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

No it wouldn't be anything like that at all. F-Zero would be up there I know that's extremelly popular in Japan with moderate popularity elsewhere, Fire Emblem huge in Japan and big elsewhere now, Animal Crossing is wildley popular and Metroid too allthough that's been declining in Japan as they hate FPS which the Prime series is. Your defintion of Worldwide is probably America and Japan, you're probably ignoring Europe and Australia. Mother is no where near top 5, maybe 7 or 8. Also you're dilusional if you think Mother is more popular than Pokemon.

Forgot Pokemon, but yeah, pretty much, the Mother series is extremely popular, even in one country, it's above series like Fire Emblem, F-Zero, Star Fox, and Metroid. Perhaps saying on a worldwide scale is a stretch, really (even though it's extremely popular even then). But saying it's a minor series is uninformed and ignorant.

Yes, there's three games, but as I've literally told you in the past, the only reason there's three games is because the creator is quite lax on it and Nintendo gives him full power to make one when he wants to. He has a lot of respect with Nintendo, even the past Nintendo president honestly thought of him as a genius.

And mind you, Sakurai really doesn't give a rat's a-s what's popular or not in other countries. He's working more independently with Brawl now ever since he formed Sora, so he won't be stressed by Nintendo to appeal only to a worldwide audience. We'll most likely see quite a few Japan-only characters in Brawl. Not too much, just a few, that won't clutter up space so the whole game isn't full of unfamiliarity. But just because they're Japan-only hardly lowers their chance in Brawl.

Fire Emblem and Metroid easily fit somewhere above Mother.

I already know about how I missed Pokemon, but...

Hahahahaha, is that a joke?

 

[xianfeng]

He said he didn't want too many Japan-Only character. Lucas will be all we'll see probably.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Japanese only characters are cool! They are definetly needed...

...It will add uniqueness to the game...

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

He said he didn't want too many Japan-Only character.

Since when was only one character too many?

 

[xianfeng]

Well Marth will probably be in too so there's two characters. Maybe Sigurd as well so three.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well Marth will probably be in too so there's two characters. Maybe Sigurd as well so three.

They aren't going to have Marth AND Sigurd probably

And Marth isn't really Japanese only now...His game is but HE isn't...

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Well Marth will probably be in too so there's two characters. Maybe Sigurd as well so three.

Judging by that, since when would three characters be too many?

Seriously, Sakurai WILL change his word. Game developers are always like that. Sakurai also said Snake was going to be unlockable but he's blatantly shown to be there from the start.

We're going to get quite a few Japan-only characters, I bet my life on that. Not full of them, but we will get more of them now that the masses became aware, ever since Marth and Roy in Melee, that there is, yes, Japan-only characters out there.

 

[xianfeng]

He's from a Japan Only game so he counts as a foreign character. There have always been foreign characters in SSB right from the start with Ness and then Melee with Ness, Marth and Roy. I know there will always be these foreign characters but being foreign does make them pretty unlikely because it makes them less known, less popular and why would you choose a foreign character over a worldwide one when they both have the same potential?

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

He's from a Japan Only game so he counts as a foreign character. There have always been foreign characters in SSB right from the start with Ness and then Melee with Ness, Marth and Roy. I know there will always be these foreign characters but being foreign does make them pretty unlikely because it makes them less known, less popular and why would you choose a foreign character over a worldwide one when they both have the same potential?

Ness isn't a foreign character.

And no, there's no foreign character that has the same potential as a "worldwide" one, period.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

He's from a Japan Only game so he counts as a foreign character. There have always been foreign characters in SSB right from the start with Ness and then Melee with Ness, Marth and Roy. I know there will always be these foreign characters but being foreign does make them pretty unlikely because it makes them less known, less popular and why would you choose a foreign character over a worldwide one when they both have the same potential?

Because most of the worldwide characters that are good are already in Brawl...

...The Japanese only ones seem very unique...probably too unique as the reason they haven't been releashed outside Japan as of yet...

 

[xianfeng]

Ness isn't a foreign character.

Yes he is, he wasn't released worldwide, he wasn't released where I live and is therefore foreign at least for me and the rest of Australia and Europe.

And no, there's no foreign character that has the same potential as a "worldwide" one, period.

I spose because the worldwide ones are usually better.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Yes he is, he wasn't released worldwide, he wasn't released where I live and is therefore foreign at least for me and the rest of Australia and Europe.

Too bad, just because he's foreign to you it doesn't mean he's foreign. A lot of American fans know quite well who he is, so he isn't that foreign as you speak of. Yes, maybe to you he is, but this game's rules don't apply to you, now does it?

I spose because the worldwide ones are usually better.

No, not really.

 

[xianfeng]

Too bad, just because he's foreign to you it doesn't mean he's foreign. A lot of American fans know quite well who he is, so he isn't that foreign as you speak of. Yes, maybe to you he is, but this game's rules don't apply to you, now does it?

For the vast majority of the world it was foreign.

No, not really.

Maybe not to you.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

For the vast majority of the world it was foreign.

Too bad.

Maybe not to you.

Obviously, yeah, of course. So why even try to state your opinion like it's some type of complete truth without backing anything up? Seriously, you could state your opinion a lot better than you do. Opinions have reasons to back them up, factual ones, but most of your back-ups are false assumptions or misinformed facts. Seriously, you need to work on that.

 

[Bassoonist]

Lucas
Ness
Claus

I agree with this. We need to keep Ness, but Claus would be interesting as well.

 

[xianfeng]

You state your opinion like fact all the time like saying that Mother is more popular than Pokemon.

 

[NukeA6]

I already know about how I missed Pokemon, but...

Hahahahaha, is that a joke?

The Mother series more popular than the Metroid series and Fire Emblem?

Earthbound was a sleeper hit and has been considered underrated. Metroid was a huge hit in the states and Fire Emblem 7 was well-received.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The Mother series more popular than the Metroid series and Fire Emblem?

Earthbound was a sleeper hit and has been considered underrated. Metroid was a huge hit in the states and Fire Emblem 7 was well-received.

Metroid isn't that popular in Japan...as for Fire Emblem...of course Mother is more popular than Fire Emblem

 

[Enigma14]

Metroid isn't that popular in Japan...as for Fire Emblem...of course Mother is more popular than Fire Emblem

True, cause FE is the same game over and over, only different scenarios, stories and characters, but when you play it, there are the same classes, personalities and missions.

 

[MasterMushroom]

Metroid isn't that popular in Japan...as for Fire Emblem...of course Mother is more popular than Fire Emblem

Fun fact for xian:

If it wasnt for the creation of the MOTHER Series, there would be no pokemon or smash bros whatesoever .

 

[prettymanfairy]

I agree with this. We need to keep Ness, but Claus would be interesting as well.

As blasphemous as it sounds, I'd gladly trade Ness for Kumatora, Poo, or even Jeff. Flint would be pretty cool too.