Ducktales Mafia - Game over

[Classy Raptor]

I also want to bring up something else. Check this out.

Post 550, CR writes:



"DH is fine with me, for sure."

Now several posts later I call him out for playing scummy as **** this entire phase, and look what we immediately see in his next post.



Notice the bolded. Look at that read shift. Despite him previously saying he was fine with me, for sure, now he's saying its only then he was getting a good read on us.

I continue to pressure and he posts this soon after.



Complete read swap.

CR was fine with our slot until we stopped backing him as a town read. As soon as he realized he wasn't getting support from my slot, he immediately began changing his position on me so he could flat out flip his read whenever it served him as convenient in his counter-push. It's **** like that that often goes unnoticed but its glaring as **** when brought up.

It's bad you have to use this as your only example, bad move as scum cause it'll make you look horrid upon my flip. Take it to mind in later games. Plus I really didn't pay you much mind to be honest. Until I saw the way you do push and derail. It's not manipulative enough, but you're trying so it's visible.

NOW that's all she wrote.

 

[DatHydra]

Raptor is lying to town by GAMBITING and not putting in work into responding to my points and thus is intentionally refusing to AID town.

Noted.

Oh btw, I take it that I can TSN is your scummate from these reads.

TSN is actively lurking like a mother****er.
Soup is cool.
Asid is struggling town.
PFP is town.

You give us town reads and scum reads on players and then leave Soup and TSN ambiguous. Soup's town from his play and his claim which leaves TSN.

Thanks for making my life easier.

 

[DatHydra]

And as far as scum play goes, I'm not that impressed with yours. All you did the entire game was insult me and hide behind your FUD while constantly putting off responding to my points until you just threw your hands up and decided you were the lynch at L-2.

I was expecting more from you tbh.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Nah, if I did a gambit it would've started D1. I'm just setting up town with my reads for my flips.

 

[Classy Raptor]

And as far as scum play goes, I'm not that impressed with yours. All you did the entire game was insult me and hide behind your FUD while constantly putting off responding to my points until you just threw your hands up and decided you were the lynch at L-2.

I was expecting more from you tbh.

Nah, I didn't insult you. If I insulted you, trust me, you would know it. That's standard mafia frustration. I have an acidic tongue, and you would know if I was insulting you.

And you keep trying to push and convince everyone that I'm scum still, or maybe you're trying to convince yourself. Either way I don't care. I don't have the time to deal with this game and the way the playerbase is, nor the want.

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Hey, so I don't know if anyone said anything yet but something happened in the skype chat so now J and Swordancer and WL have to replace out I think. Anyways, it's just going to be me from now on.

I know this is really late but Kuz, one of your questions was who posted something, and that was J.

 

[DatHydra]

I thought so which is weird because if J wrote that post it reeks pretty bad.

I don't know what's apparently going on with the replacements but :|

 

[Asdioh]

I don't know what's apparently going on with the replacements but :|

My thoughts exactly. :|


Anyway, I agree that CR looks worse and worse. I still think DH is town. I agree with my hydra's vote on him earlier and it stays. I don't like all the AtE that's coming out of him.

In the event of a CR scumflip, I'll be looking at TSN and PFP. In the event of a townflip, we're in LyLo or something and I'll be looking into those two plus Ryker.

 

[DatHydra]

Deadline is also in 36 hours FYI

Raptor votes, we need more of them.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Game is currently frozen.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

J leaves the game. Gova replaces The Savage Nymph.
Washed Laundry leaves the Game. Asdioh replaces Asid Wash.

Votecount coming.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

DatHydra [1] - MOD
Ryker [2] - ClassyRaptor, PeopleFacePunch
PeopleFacePunch [1] - Ryker
Classy Raptor [2] - DatHydra, Asdioh

Not voting: Soupamario, Gova

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Vote: CR

****ty gambit.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Peace .

 

[Chaco]

Vote: Classy Raptor

Get your heads out of your *****. Listen to MY reads now.

 

[DatHydra]

I never really saw the point of scum self-hammering and then saying in the same posts to look at their stances after he flips.

I guess its just for ultra WIFOM.

If I'm not around toMorrow, I'd guess that Gova is the likeliest scum-mate of CR.

Soup, Ryker, and AW are probably town.
PFP and Gova are the two I could be seeing connected to CR.

 

[#HBC | J]

Sorry guys!

I'm out, have fun. ^^

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Anyway, last night there was a power blink and my router fried. I'm V/LA, probably till tomorrow, until my router gets replaced. This combined with Moth's V/LA means Boatchouli will be V/LA until one of us gets back. No biggie, but a head's up.

Copypasta.

 

[Chaco]

DH I really have no words for that post. Hahaha.

 

[Asdioh]

You never claimed, did you?

 

[DatHydra]

Why would he need to? He self hammered for no reason without claiming. There's no way he's flipping town.

I'm already ISOing him as we speak, should roll in toMorrow with a pretty good idea of his mate.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Sworddancer leaves the game. Joey replaces PeopleFacePunch.

A lynch has occured!

Classy Raptor [Launchpad McQuack, Vanilla Townie] has been lynched!

Night 2 begins! Send in all actions until Sunday, 10th July.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Joey [Webby Vanderqauck, Town attention Whore] has been killed during the night!

Day 3 begins. With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

Not voting: Asdioh, Ryker, DatHydra, Gova, Soupamario

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Alright, i got a confession.

I am not a JoAT.

since we are in mylo, i might as well out my real role.

I am actually a Town Inventor, who can give 3 items once per game.

I have been closely observing and studying everyone, and trying to decide who to give the items.

Item A is the ability to shoot, i can gave the item during the night and they will be able to use it the following night.
Item B is the ability to investigate, i can give the item during the night and they will be able to use it the following night.
Item C is the ability to protect, i can give the item during the night and they will be able to use it the following night.

I felt PFP was a good choice N1, so i gave them an item, a shoot, just to see who would die. i guess that item was negated and they couldn't get their shot off.
I feel DatHydra was a good choice N2, but perhaps i could be wrong, so i never gave them an item N2.

So, i want someone to convince me why i should give them an item and how they will use it, and i also want to know DH's thoughts about the Town Flip of Classy Raptor.

 

[DatHydra]

The amount of derp that I felt upon his flip cannot honestly be explained in words. **** saying I was wrong for pushing him, he was scummy as balls and I'm shocked he flipped town with the way he was playing. What is with players self-hammering as town? Heavily rolefishing? Literally benefits no one but scum and Chaco is kidding himself if he thinks that his reads will just magically be adopted.

This goes without saying but no one vote dare vote until we're dead sure on our lynch candidate.

@Soup: So you're saying you gave PFP a shot and they died before they could use it and you're saying you gave me something last Night? I received nothing that I am aware of. Am I only informed I have the item the following Night?

Oh and I don't really think you understand the numbers here. Even if we lynch correctly toDay, there will only be one more Night phase (toNight) before there is 3 man toMorrow (assuming NK). Any present you give toNight won't get to the target before the game is over regardless of who we lynch.

 

[DatHydra]

As for the town PRs claimed, we've had a regular tracker and a town vt with a posting restriction.

Tbh, I expected to come into toDay either seeing Soup dead or arguing a Soup lynch because of the imbalance his roles causes this setup to have. A 9 man with a tracker a one shot cop/doc/vig combo is unthinkable.

However, I really like the change of his claim. It's delay until the items arrive (one Night as Soup says) mean that only two out of the three items can be used (because we're talking a three Night maximum in terms of game length) and the items can be given to any player meaning that scum can abuse it if Soup makes the wrong choice. That makes his role a lot more balanced in terms of what we've already seem from the flipped town PRs and something that lines up with the flavor of ducktales.

So mechanic wise I'm pretty sure Soup is town. Still curious at to why I didn't receive any item, though, which I want Soup to clear up.

That means 2 scum lie within Asdioh, Ryker and Gova. Asdioh and Ryker were both previously on my town list which bothers me and also means this game deserves a re-read. I'll bang one out soon.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

ugh, ****, why didn't i think of these numbers.

Yes, i gave PFP a shot N2.

No, i didn't give you an item, i thought about it but i did not.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Alright, i went over my role PM again.

to paraphrase: You will recieve an item the following day phase, but will not be able to use it until the following night phase, i hinted that i gave PFP a weapon by saying the shiny cliche, i was suprised PFP did not talk or inform anyone of this information, unless i was roleblocked.

 

[DatHydra]

That's fine, honestly. Even if you had given me a shot I probably would not have used it anyway with the situation we're in. A misfire would be critical.

Are you able to send more than one item a Night?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

There is nothing regarding that, it only says that i can only send each item once.

 

[Asdioh]

ugh. My lynch pool was PFP/TSN/Ryker, and now PFP was killed. CR flipped town, somehow.

DH, you BETTER be town or I'll be mad. That modvote crap was such a mean move to pull as scum.

Soup... I don't see why you fakeclaimed in the first place. Your claim makes sense though >_>



I'm assuming it's claim time, and I have no reason to wait to claim. I am Scrooge McDuck, VT. I crumbed my character by linking that one video "moneymoneymoney" and saying "bah" at the beginning of D2, like bah humbug :3
I kinda thought our character would be a miller at first, because yknow, Scrooge, until I realized that he was the main character of the show.


I suppose a reread is in order, but I'm tempted to vote TSN (Gova) right now.

 

[DatHydra]

Oh they are informed about it during the Day?

If you're telling the truth then I agree its weird that PFP didn't acknowledge they had a shot. Plus, all kills happen at the same time so if they used the shot last Night then it should still have gone through even if they were killed (and there is no way they killed themselves).

Unless you were roleblocked isn't a reality unless the mod told you you were roleblocked. I'm assuming you haven't received such a message or you would have told us already.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup... I don't see why you fakeclaimed in the first place. Your claim makes sense though >_>

I could've made a better fakeclaim, but it made more sense, and yeah, it was un-needed, but as i hinted i have a very powerful role and i didn't want to risk anything unless i was 100% sure on someone, i wanted to use this game to observe rather then play.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Oh they are informed about it during the Day?

If you're telling the truth then I agree its weird that PFP didn't acknowledge they had a shot. Plus, all kills happen at the same time so if they used the shot last Night then it should still have gone through even if they were killed (and there is no way they killed themselves).

Unless you were roleblocked isn't a reality unless the mod told you you were roleblocked. I'm assuming you haven't received such a message or you would have told us already.

To go further into this, i wanted to see who PFP would shoot, i had him as scum already and i sorta took a gamble and wanted to see how they would use it, i was even more worried when they didn't out that they had the shot, but perhaps they wanted to be ominous about it.

 

[DatHydra]

DH, you BETTER be town or I'll be mad. That modvote crap was such a mean move to pull as scum.

Don't worry, I'm town. Just need to make sure you ar-

Scrooge McDuck, VT.

Gheb I'll hate you forever if you made Scrooge a fake claim. Uninformed Miller is a possibility but not something we need to dwell on atm since Soup's investigation can't even be used anymore.

Well Ryker/Gova. Let's see it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'd like to apologize for that, investigation would have been great to give in this situation, i don't know if i still can, but i might ask Gheb, i never did send him an action, because i was busy trying to figure out who to give an item to.

 

[DatHydra]

There is nothing regarding that, it only says that i can only send each item once.

I think if Soup was fakeclaiming this he would have said yes to this question because I implied it would make his claim more believable. Plus, its a pretty complex claim and much harder to come up solidly with that a JoaT so I'll buy that you actually do have that PR. If not, well gg Soup.

The only thing that bothers me about it is that if you claim you havn't been roleblocked, then why're you still alive?

/wifom

Possibility of scum inventor? Unlikely unless someone else ends up claiming a PR because a town with just with a flavor vt and a tracker is underpowered. With his play in mind, however, I'm willing to clear Soup as town.

As for my claim

I'm Huey, Vanilla Townie

 

[DatHydra]

I'd like to apologize for that, investigation would have been great to give in this situation, i don't know if i still can, but i might ask Gheb, i never did send him an action, because i was busy trying to figure out who to give an item to.

Man. Is it bad that I wholeheartedly believe this is something Soup would do?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

The only thing that bothers me about it is that if you claim you havn't been roleblocked, then why're you still alive?

I honestly do not know.

gova and ryker need to claim.

 

[Gova]

I'm Mrs. Beakley, the Vanilla Townie.