Ducktales Mafia - Game over

[Asid Wash]

@Soup: He has no case. Just trying to further derail the lynch.

Except he's not getting lynched. We're not voting him. DH isn't voting him. Soup's not voting him. He's not self-hammering. You need to get one of us to vote him and we're not going to do it. You can forget about a Ryker lynch--it's just not happening.

 

[Asid Wash]

@Everyone but DH: Agree or disagree that Ryker needs to go today for connection purposes as well as heavy scum vibes.

You've conveniently ignored things I've said based on connection and told me I have to fight you on Ryker's lynch. I also hate vibe-based cases. Therefore, no.

Problem?

 

[Classy Raptor]

I really don't feel like having to wall text an entire post to show you what you should already see. I'll come back to this soon with a better frame of mind hopefully, cause these reads are blaringly obvious.

V/LA due to 3 doubles at work.

 

[Asid Wash]

Nah.

How about I'll be Kamina and you can be Simon.

AW can be Nia and Ryker can be Yoko.

Asidoh has already called in on this but there's no way we're Soup's *****.

 

[Asid Wash]

Asidoh: "Seems like CR has done a lot of power role hunting."
Me: "Good call."

He's right. That subtle attempt for a mass-claim looked very much like a masked attempt to hunt for a PR or two.

 

[Asid Wash]

And finally, this crossvote of TSN/CR/PFP on the Ryker wagon and AW/Ryker/Soup on the PFP wagon kinda has me convinced that both cannot be scum.

 

[Asid Wash]

Hahaha, again just couldn't stop yourself from throwing in the "because as usual" you're wrong.

I also noticed this and disliked it.


the votecount before the 'glg was lynched' votecount:

glg has been prodded.

giraffelasergun [3] - DatHydra, Ryker, Asid Wash
Ryker [2] - PeopleFacePunch, Classy Raptor,
Soupamario [1] - ~The Savage Nynph~
ZacBlock [2] - giraffelasergun, Soupamario
DatHydra [1] - MOD

Not voting: ZacBlock

Takes 5/9 to lynch - Deadline: Wednesday, June 29th

most recent votecount:

DatHydra [2] - MOD, DatHydra
Ryker [2] - ClassyRaptor, PeopleFacePunch
PeopleFacePunch [1] - Ryker

Not voting: Soupamario, AsidWash, TheSavageNymph

Now, if you were on a 2 person scumteam, you would try to avoid consistently being on the same wagon as your buddy, right?

/this is wifom but I thought I'd look at voting a bit anyway

 

[~ Gheb ~]

DatHydra [1] - MOD
Ryker [2] - ClassyRaptor, PeopleFacePunch
PeopleFacePunch [2] - Ryker, AsidWash
Classy Raptor [1] - DatHydra

Not voting: Soupamario, TheSavageNymph

 

[Asid Wash]

Welp... Soup, I was confused by your pointless contradictions. Did you, or did you not, investigate ZB last Night?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I did not.

there, problem solved..i think.

 

[DatHydra]

Uhg @ this game stagnating like this.

We aren't lynching Ryker. I won't vote him, AW won't and neither will Soup. I don't know TSN's current stance on him because I havn't really heard anything out of the slot recently. PFP and CR seem the only two slotted in that direction and we only have two days left until deadline.

The two lynches toDay are PFP or CR.

There seems to be some interest in lynching PFP and I will accept that at deadline if others won't join me on CR, but I strongly suggest we lynch CR toDay.

I've already explained why his D1 play was grody and I've picked apart why his posts in the past few pages have been absolute trash. They're full of blatant contradictions and misconstrued points that he keeps sidestepping whenever I confront him about them.

His pushes have been absolute garbage, as I explained in 598 and his responses just attacked the credibility of the instigator instead of actually responding to the points.

 

[DatHydra]

I also want to bring up something else. Check this out.

Post 550, CR writes:

@Everyone: I apologize for my inactivity but I've had a lot going on. I still, however, based on current reads believe a Ryker/TSN scumteam is possible. I'm not getting too bad of vibes from PFP, but it's stll not something I like a lot. DH is fine with me, for sure. Soup is psuedo cleared. I like Asid Wash.

"DH is fine with me, for sure."

Now several posts later I call him out for playing scummy as **** this entire phase, and look what we immediately see in his next post.

You just want me to come off as a bad guy, and the way you've been attacking me is strange, btw. It's taking this to finally get a read on you.

Notice the bolded. Look at that read shift. Despite him previously saying he was fine with me, for sure, now he's saying its only then he was getting a good read on us.

I continue to pressure and he posts this soon after.

You've tried to derail the lynch on Ryker for two days now. I can't decide anymore if it's you or TSN with him, but I'm fairly certain Ryker is scum

Complete read swap.

CR was fine with our slot until we stopped backing him as a town read. As soon as he realized he wasn't getting support from my slot, he immediately began changing his position on me so he could flat out flip his read whenever it served him as convenient in his counter-push. It's **** like that that often goes unnoticed but its glaring as **** when brought up.

 

[DatHydra]

Now you could make the argument that his read changed on me due to my push on him, but you can immediately discard that from the way he phrases it. He says I've been derailing lynches since D1, and thus can't figure out whether I'm Ryker's scum mate or if its TSN. If he thought I was de-railing lynches since D1 and thus was suspicious for it, why would he come into D2 with a town read on my slot?

It was only after I started attacking him that he began to voice his suspicions that apparently started on D1.

Bull****.

 

[Classy Raptor]

I really need to stop being an ******* and actually play this game. Apologies Gheb for acting like a ****.

DH, give me one post with all your hate on me to respond to and I'll do it. Other than that I dont have the time to pick through and argue all these points.

It's my fault I'm playing this ****ty now, but, I intend to change that becaue I refuse to do that to Gheb and throw town off a win because I refuse to be a team player and throw out why I see and catch what I do.

So, anyone who wants to make one post at me to respond to, I'd be glad too.

And I still have another shift today, but I'll try to reread and point out my narrowed lynch pool and why Ryker should be the lynch today.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Also, Asid, you're going to have to get over not liking gut play. It's the type of player I am. Probably 80% gut, 20% other methods.

Check any game I've won as town with a leading voice. Wonderland or ToS generally would show you the gutting. Definitely ToS.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Gut Based Reads with Slight Reasoning:

PFP: I have PFP as town mainly because I don't see them going so hard on Ryker, and would've easily been on the GLG wagon.

DH: I'm not sure of Seikend or Kuz's skill in mafia, however, I get a STRONG manipulative vibe from them now. It took me awhile to see it set in, but watch the expert transition from Ryker to GLG. Before even presenting their case, the question the pose to me is why I am on Ryker and not GLG. It's not a strong feeling to me, but I certainly feel Ryker and DH could be the scum team now.

TSN: I cannot get a gut read on you still at all. The way you post never throws me to a certain feel, but with that I don't see you as a manipulative player in this case. I feel J would provide a much more complex and active role as scum.

Asid: I really don't think you have any idea what is going on. All game you've been struggling to figure out who's scum. Your town list has been like 2 people and the rest have been scum at some point. You have no faith in your reads, and now I think you're taking that to a blinded level with Ryker because of a belief you hold that in all honesty doesnt make a bunch of sense and doesnt account a lot of factors. You're connections with Ryker are all dismissed based on attacks but DH is prime for Ryker's scumbuddy.

Ryker: I really just don't like your play. I got mad scummy vibes D1, and now you're coasting along. You have no fear so you're trying not to come back into the spotlight, Good strategy, it's just easy to notice though.

Soup: Man, I'm sorry for calling you dumb. But, I get frustrated mad easy at town when they don't see things I see. I believe your JoaT tell and see how you wanted to play the role. However, avoid gambits such as that until you have the ability to pull it off, because it can end quite badly for town.

 

[th3kuzinator]

How about you take a little extra out of your day abd rewpond to the stuff I already brought up instead of asking me to constantly summarize it for you. Theres plenty to respond to and frankely I dont see your slot having a valid excuse for your lack of effort.

Show me you want to live and prove me wrong instead of just waiting to be spoonfed info.

 

[Classy Raptor]

I don't have the time to currently, and we can't afford a mislynch. You look mighty bad refusing to help when asked. Do you want town to win or is your manip already sat?

Your refusal to aid town is noted.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Also, stop posting off your hydra.

 

[DatHydra]

How about you take a little extra out of your day abd rewpond to the stuff I already brought up instead of asking me to constantly summarize it for you. Theres plenty to respond to and frankely I dont see your slot having a valid excuse for your lack of effort.

Show me you want to live and prove me wrong instead of just waiting to be spoonfed info.

First of all ninja and second of all I swear on my life that wasn't my fault. I had the hydra open my phone browser and must have had another page opeb with my normal account on it. Message got sent through the wrong account despite ne posing it on the right one.

Swear to god.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Asidoh: "Seems like CR has done a lot of power role hunting."
Me: "Good call."

He's right. That subtle attempt for a mass-claim looked very much like a masked attempt to hunt for a PR or two.

You honestly don't see that anymore PR's in this game would throw it's balance out the window? JoaT is one of the strongest town roles you can put in a game. It's also a placeholder for doc, cop, vig all in one to make room for another wanted role. In this case that role is probably tracker. You more than likely have a RBer who has deemed Soup useless, and another stronger mafia role as well. Not for certain what it would be, likely a godfather or something of the sort. But I don't see Gheb doing that... I've played in Gheb's setups before, they're balanced. So don't think I don't know my Gheb meta and am fishing,that's just being naive.

Lessening the lynch pool via massclaim makes perfect sense. Especially by voting method its so much easier to call out falseclaims.

 

[DatHydra]

I don't have the time to currently, and we can't afford a mislynch. You look mighty bad refusing to help when asked. Do you want town to win or is your manip already sat?

Your refusal to aid town is noted.

What motive does town gave to say this in thread. "Your refusal to aid town is noted."

Comimg from the player who wouldn't respond to anything I asked him and then continued to make a show of instigating me.

Get that **** out of here.jpg

 

[DatHydra]

Like gogdamn that post is so scummy I dont't even.

 

[Classy Raptor]

No, it's really not. It's quote simple really, all you have to do is multiquote, for all I care, all your points into one post. I'm not asking for you to give me an entire thread synopsis. If you want a timestamped picture with me holding a thumbs up next to my work schedule I'd be more than happy to oblige. My ONE day off is the day of the deadline. And every other shift is almost a double. All I'm asking is for a concise post so that I can show you what's wrong. You immediately try to discredit that as laziness and say I should have to prove to you. That's not how it's going to work, because I legitimately DO not have the time to sit down and do a two hour re-read while taking notes.

 

[DatHydra]

Your arms must be pretty long to able to reach that far.

 

[DatHydra]

You honestly don't see that anymore PR's in this game would throw it's balance out the window? JoaT is one of the strongest town roles you can put in a game. It's also a placeholder for doc, cop, vig all in one to make room for another wanted role. In this case that role is probably tracker. You more than likely have a RBer who has deemed Soup useless, and another stronger mafia role as well. Not for certain what it would be, likely a godfather or something of the sort. But I don't see Gheb doing that... I've played in Gheb's setups before, they're balanced. So don't think I don't know my Gheb meta and am fishing,that's just being naive.

Lessening the lynch pool via massclaim makes perfect sense. Especially by voting method its so much easier to call out falseclaims.

If you realize that there are probably no morr PRs in the remaining players WHAT LYNCH POOL ARE YOU TRYING TO LESSEN?

You're just giving scum clarity as to whether or not more actually exist.

Not that hard of a concept to understand.

 

[Classy Raptor]

You're so thick. It forces scum to falseclaim. If there are too many VTs you have a lynch pool alone in VTs. If you have another PR claim you use the claim list to deduce if it is feasible or not. NOT a hard concept and extremely useful.

Town gets more clarity than scum, tbh.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Your arms must be pretty long to able to reach that far.

Noted once more. ScumHydra is alligning for lynch upon my mislynch. Watch your manip.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Going back on. Have that post ready whenever today or tomorrow.

 

[DatHydra]

Your attempts to rile me up are laughable.

See this post?

DH: I'm not sure of Seikend or Kuz's skill in mafia, however, I get a STRONG manipulative vibe from them now. It took me awhile to see it set in, but watch the expert transition from Ryker to GLG. Before even presenting their case, the question the pose to me is why I am on Ryker and not GLG. It's not a strong feeling to me, but I certainly feel Ryker and DH could be the scum team now.

Noted once more. ScumHydra is alligning for lynch upon my mislynch.

See what positioning you've done within the most recent few posts to call me scum as a counter-push despite having a town read on me earlier.

You're flipping scum.

 

[Asid Wash]

New posts in this game?
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What will stupid points in this game be met with?
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Can I flip a table like a boss?
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[DatHydra]

You're so thick. It forces scum to falseclaim. If there are too many VTs you have a lynch pool alone in VTs. If you have another PR claim you use the claim list to deduce if it is feasible or not. NOT a hard concept and extremely useful.

Town gets more clarity than scum, tbh.

Please continue to insult me despite being completely wrong. That always helps.

There is no way in hell town gains more useful info than scum from mass claiming and your reasoning on that is really weak.

 

[Asid Wash]

You honestly don't see that anymore PR's in this game would throw it's balance out the window? JoaT is one of the strongest town roles you can put in a game. It's also a placeholder for doc, cop, vig all in one to make room for another wanted role. In this case that role is probably tracker. You more than likely have a RBer who has deemed Soup useless, and another stronger mafia role as well. Not for certain what it would be, likely a godfather or something of the sort. But I don't see Gheb doing that... I've played in Gheb's setups before, they're balanced. So don't think I don't know my Gheb meta and am fishing,that's just being naive.

Lessening the lynch pool via massclaim makes perfect sense. Especially by voting method its so much easier to call out falseclaims.

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This is stupid, beyond belief. Considering there's 7 players left, it's d2, it's not even LyLo and scum have at least one night to **** everything up with the information they gain by a mass claim, there is no reason to massclaim. You are PR-fishing, it is obvious you are PR-fishing, you're not even denying that you're PR-fishing, and it's not ProTown at all.

unvote vote: Classy Raptor

That kind of information is exactly what scum want to blend into this game.

 

[Asid Wash]

Like, you ****ing say that there's a ****ing roleblocker out there that can block other protectives and remove players that they want removed, and yet you're completely okay with that?

 

[Asid Wash]

Asid: I really don't think you have any idea what is going on. All game you've been struggling to figure out who's scum. Your town list has been like 2 people and the rest have been scum at some point. You have no faith in your reads, and now I think you're taking that to a blinded level with Ryker because of a belief you hold that in all honesty doesnt make a bunch of sense and doesnt account a lot of factors. You're connections with Ryker are all dismissed based on attacks but DH is prime for Ryker's scumbuddy.

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#652 and #653 suggest people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

To be fair, yes, we've stated things, then went back on them. We questioned our reads. Things change based on flips. If GLG flipped scum, we'd be hard on Ryker's *** right now. But he didn't. I can see DH as Ryker's scumbuddy but I can't see DH as scum. He reads town to me.

I'm sorry this is a hard concept to grasp but we shouldn't be consistent with our reads throughout the entire game.

 

[Asid Wash]

Like, from all that happened, I can't see CR flipping town. Man, that info-fishing really, really, really doesn't sit well with me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

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#652 and #653 suggest people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

To be fair, yes, we've stated things, then went back on them. We questioned our reads. Things change based on flips. If GLG flipped scum, we'd be hard on Ryker's *** right now. But he didn't. I can see DH as Ryker's scumbuddy but I can't see DH as scum. He reads town to me.

I'm sorry this is a hard concept to grasp but we shouldn't be consistent with our reads throughout the entire game.

this basically.

there is also the conflict of PFP too.

i'm good with either dying, however CR is playing some serious sympathy card, i'm not sure what to think of it.

@mod request votecount

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

CR, tell me what you think of PFP, because your flip isn't really that much of a connection towards PFP, however, individually, i would like to know your op-

PFP: I have PFP as town mainly because I don't see them going so hard on Ryker, and would've easily been on the GLG wagon.

:badreasoning:

detail.

 

[Classy Raptor]

Kill: DatHydra

Riled enough now?

 

[Classy Raptor]

Don't believe that above post, I really dont feel like making him piss himself anymore. I'm tired and fully expect to be lynched.

So, once I'm dead, lynch Ryker. Reevaluate DH's push on me. Look at the derailment of Ryker's lynch to the GLG wagon and the way DH set it up. They're quite possibly your scum team.

TSN is actively lurking like a mother****er.
Soup is cool.
Asid is struggling town.
PFP is town.

There ya go and that's all she wrote.