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DS Spike/ Meteor.

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Mazaloth

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Ok, well, lets first get the whole.
'vids or it didn't happen' out of the way, I know, the credibility is 0% if there isn't a video, but I don't believe that it was a legit kill anyway, probably just a glitch or a freak incident.

Secondly, the story.

Me as Marth, and one of my friends who was Zelda. Battlefield.
The game was going completely in my favor, 2 stocks left, Zelda at 90%.
I Hyphen smashed her and she went on the top left side of the stage. I pursued him because I decided that I have two lives left and that I wouldn't lose anyway.
So I wait for a second because Zelda airdodged. After I Faired her, and decided to be flashy and use a DS. It wound up hitting her just on the very end of the hit. Now normally it would be a weak knockback, or just one of those scraping noise.
However, this time its spiked her completely downward. And it wasn't slow like either. It was like she was at 300%.

I don't know why it happened. But I just thought I would like to share this with everyone.
Perhaps someone can check this out?
 
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Interesting, though I'd really like to see a vid of this...

If I have time I'll fiddle with it and see what happens.
 
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Mazaloth

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BengalsRZ said:
Interesting, though I'd really like to see a vid of this...

If I have time I'll fiddle with it and see what happens.
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That would be nice.
Yeah, I wish I did have a Vid. But I have no Capture Card, or anything like that.
Plus even if I did, I only have Windows XP, and nothing will pass the window logo test.
 
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Did you save the replay? Because if you did you can send the replay to someone who can upload the video.
 
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Mazaloth

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Odigo said:
Did you save the replay? Because if you did you can send the replay to someone who can upload the video.
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No, It was exactly 4:21 minutes.
That is why, this thread can only be counted as theory. There really is no proof besides my word.
 
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Mazaloth

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JtM said:
Interesting, this could be a great Marth discovery!
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Probably not, it may just be a one time glitch that just happened.
I don't think that it is an actual property to DS, mainly because it hasn't be found yet. Which I find to be suprising.
I don't think I have found anything other then a glitch in the game.
I mean think about it, som much effort in unlocking the potential in Marth's moves that it is very unlikely that I have found something that is 'new'.
 
Darxmarth23

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Dead. *****es.
you know if this works....

and someone was edgehogging....

and their invincibility ran out....

it would be a freak and epic ko.

i write in red now.

lulz
 
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I thought the end of the DS simply just knock them backwards, seems intresting, someone must recreate this in a vid
 
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Maybe it was bad DI. Some moves act almost like a spike if they are DIing downwards as they are hit. Like the end of Ike's jab combo. But it sounds unlikely in this case....
 
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Nidtendofreak said:
Maybe it was bad DI. Some moves act almost like a spike if they are DIing downwards as they are hit. Like the end of Ike's jab combo. But it sounds unlikely in this case....
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No, my friend doesn't know how to DI, so that is out of the question.

And secondly, the Spike was very fast downwards, like if you Gannon spiked someone at 300%.
 
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Most people use some rudimentary form of DI even if they don't know what it is. He could've just been holding down on the stick out of instinct to keep himself from flying off the top.
 
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Daedatheus said:
That's exactly why he might have been unknowingly helping himself move down... but like a 300% spike, that makes no sense.
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Exactly, that what really surprised me. There is nothing that would make anything go that fast downward.
 
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I think she was to the left of and above the stage at the time, if I understand correctly.

Sure she wasn't in the initial frame(s) of a special or something?
 
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Cloud Cleaver said:
I think she was to the left of and above the stage at the time, if I understand correctly.

Sure she wasn't in the initial frame(s) of a special or something?
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Nope, the DS totally caught my friend off guard because it comes out very quick.
It just barely hit him, but then *BAM* He was gone and the GAME appeared.
 
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I think it's entirely possible that it was just the DI. At the last tournament I went to, my friend played a good Toon Link (Santi) and DI'd into a down smash. Because of the DI, the second hit of the down smash didn't hit and he flew into the bottom left corner of the stage with no chance of recover. This was at low percent and he was playing Falco.

It could definitely be accidental DI.
 
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kpeezy said:
I think it's entirely possible that it was just the DI. At the last tournament I went to, my friend played a good Toon Link (Santi) and DI'd into a down smash. Because of the DI, the second hit of the down smash didn't hit and he flew into the bottom left corner of the stage with no chance of recover. This was at low percent and he was playing Falco.

It could definitely be accidental DI.
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Yeah, but bad DI doesn't result in being shot downwards like the OP claims. I'm going to call glitch for now unless i see a vid or someone else can recreate this.
 
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What? Bad DI is exactly what shot my friend to the corner of the stage (not the physical stage but the screen). He was DI'ing left and was shot way out to the left. His friend might have been DI'ing down and was shot downwards very fast.

Also, with my friend at low percent, he was thrown to the side at the speed of a good spike. Maybe not a 300% spike, but still just as fast as a 50%-100% damage spike.


Edit: Granted, my friend's predicament was probably due to how Toon Link's down smash sucks you to the other side and hits you twice. Either way, there is probably something similar going on here.
 
Punishment Divine

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kpeezy said:
What? Bad DI is exactly what shot my friend to the corner of the stage (not the physical stage but the screen). He was DI'ing left and was shot way out to the left. His friend might have been DI'ing down and was shot downwards very fast.

Also, with my friend at low percent, he was thrown to the side at the speed of a good spike. Maybe not a 300% spike, but still just as fast as a 100% damage spike.
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Yeah, but we're not talking about a smash attack or something, especially not an attack like TL's dsmash that's known to have said properties. We're talking about Marth's Up B, which is supposed to send the opponent horizontal, not down. As far as I know, no amount of bad DI can do that.
 
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Mazaloth said:
No, my friend doesn't know how to DI, so that is out of the question.

And secondly, the Spike was very fast downwards, like if you Gannon spiked someone at 300%.
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lmao, everybody DI's whether they understand what is happening or not.
Holding any direction on the analog stick while you get hit? congrats, you just DIed
 
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J4pu said:
lmao, everybody DI's whether they understand what is happening or not.
Holding any direction on the analog stick while you get hit? congrats, you just DIed
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No, holding the direction of the analog perpendicular to the said trajectory.
 
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Punishment Divine said:
Yeah, but we're not talking about a smash attack or something, especially not an attack like TL's dsmash that's known to have said properties. We're talking about Marth's Up B, which is supposed to send the opponent horizontal, not down. As far as I know, no amount of bad DI can do that.
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Exactly this.
It probably was a freak thing that lapsed. I just wanted to notify the Marth boards just in case.
But it probably is nothing. I haven't been able to replicate it again.
 
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Yeah, this is a special tech i've perfected bout Feb,

I call it the Hadooken spike




.... but sersly, get that crap on tape
 
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