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Doubles **** combo

~CPU~

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I was playing around and figured out that zss and ganon are **** on teams. When its both of you and 1 opponent left ganon does his side-b and you dsmash right after. Repeat. When you get to close to the edge d-smash while ganon is charging warlock punch then grab and ganon kills them it would be cool if someone could record them self doing this in a real match
 

noradseven

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My favorite part of this combo is when the person your comboing techs out of the over B, and it drops, ehh ehhh.

ZSS is good on teams and general, and the only thing that ZSS and ganon do well together is ZSS combo's the person into getting hit by ganon's f-smash.

Best team is still G&W, ZSS.
 

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My favorite part of this combo is when the person your comboing techs out of the over B, and it drops, ehh ehhh.

ZSS is good on teams and general, and the only thing that ZSS and ganon do well together is ZSS combo's the person into getting hit by ganon's f-smash.

Best team is still G&W, ZSS.
Lol didnt know it could be teched.
 

VanillaWaffle

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the big flaw here is the entire situation. if it gets to 2 on 1 in teams 90% of the cast can just do exactly what you described only with normal grabbing. and please dont think something is special because it can happen in a 2 on 1 situation, whats special is how you beat them into a 2 on 1 situation.
 

ph00tbag

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My favorite part of this combo is when the person your comboing techs out of the over B, and it drops, ehh ehhh.
My favorite part of this is when they ***** and moan because no matter how hard they try, they can't actually tech Flame Choke.
 

Ishiey

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I pulled off some sick **** with ZSS teaming with a Falcon. Bthrow opponent offstage straight into a recovering falcon's upB, then downB spike just as they're released. Sickeningly good. You could probably do something similar with Ganon, even though the hitstun is weird.

:059:
 

noradseven

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My favorite part of this is when they ***** and moan because no matter how hard they try, they can't actually tech Flame Choke.
Really I thought you could, and I even play Ganon alot though I avoid that move because it sucks, worse than most of his other moves.

*Thinks back, ohh yeah you can't tech it ,hur I'm dumb I guess it does work but regardless everyone can just chain grab 0 to death anyways in a 2v1 situation.

The problem with ganon is if the opponent is aggressive it doesn't matter who they are you can counter, but as far as approaching safely, you have back air, and d-tilt, anything else really doesn't work for pressure and is all counters, or predictions. In other words if they can play defensively your kinda screwed.
 

ph00tbag

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Really I thought you could, and I even play Ganon alot though I avoid that move because it sucks, worse than most of his other moves.

*Thinks back, ohh yeah you can't tech it ,hur I'm dumb I guess it does work but regardless everyone can just chain grab 0 to death anyways in a 2v1 situation.

The problem with ganon is if the opponent is aggressive it doesn't matter who they are you can counter, but as far as approaching safely, you have back air, and d-tilt, anything else really doesn't work for pressure and is all counters, or predictions. In other words if they can play defensively your kinda screwed.
I agree. Ganon has to be played defensively, and that's a massive weakness against pretty much all of the cast. I disagree on Flame Choke, though. It's good if you can predict your opponent. If you just start out shielding the first two or three to get an idea, not only will it induce them to roll away more often, it'll give you an idea where they'll roll, and you can predict.
 

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Ganon's not too bad in teams if he can stay on the stage enough (or you help him out off of it. And yeah combos like that are possible with quite a few characters, but Ganon's is easier to pull off than most. He's still not really an ideal teammate though, there are so many that are much better than him.
D-smash to Warlock punch wouldn't work right? XD I really doubt it but it'd still be awesome
 

PhantomX

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Ganon's not too bad in teams if he can stay on the stage enough (or you help him out off of it. And yeah combos like that are possible with quite a few characters, but Ganon's is easier to pull off than most. He's still not really an ideal teammate though, there are so many that are much better than him.
D-smash to Warlock punch wouldn't work right? XD I really doubt it but it'd still be awesome
If he starts it before you land the first Dsmash you could probably keep them in place long enough.

It would be easier to just do Dsmash to grab/pivot grab and then force a ground break if you want him to pawnch.
 

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@sasook
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You two obviously haven't seen much of the better Ganon mains...
 

noradseven

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Please stop playing Ganondorf.

Please.
Dude I'm sorry I'm ruining the Ganondorf name, but some people play games for fun, geez. I don't play him competitively or anything like that.

Murder Grip is like a staple of Ganondorf mains.
I guess this makes sense, but it seems like one of those things that once people get used to it, they can punish it, quite easily. I tend to do his standing grab more than his over B sorry person "Flying Dutchmen" , that I didn't know that you can't tech out of it, I always thought it was just failure to tech, because I used the move so rarely.

*Yes I know about using block stun, and baiting rolls, and tech chasing 1/3 chance 2/3 chance in corner.
 
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