It was said in an interview years back that no clones would return for Brawl.
This is not only a rumor, but an alredy proven WRONG rumor.
That rumor also said Sakurai said in the interview that Ice Climbers were out (which they are not) Doc was out and Bowser JR in and Young Link was replaced by WW Link.
Anyways, if you heard it from some other rumor which is not the one posted above, let me make it clear that Sakurai has never said that he does not want any clones back.
He is probably not returning. Mario's F-Air became a little too similar to Doc's too.
Falco = Clone. Further proof of his deconfirmation: Fox was nerfed.
How is this a deconfirmation? The aspects of Fox that were nerfed, were not (in Melee) and are not (in Brawl) similar to Falco's, they are completely different.
And being a clone does not mean he is out as already proven wrong above.
Game & Watch = He might come back, since he was unique. But was he popular amongst Smash players? Possible proof of his deconfirmation: Wario looks to be the new "silly character that can still kick your ***" in Brawl.
Japanese people said Wario was de-weirded in the sense that he does not look as weird as he did, but now plays more "smoothly". Even if he did not this is in no way a de-confirmation.
Ganondorf = Clone. Personally, I hope he returns with a unique moveset. He's got both the potential and the popularity.
Luigi = See Ganondorf.
Both of these will return. No doubt.
Marth = Broken. I want him to come back (he was unique and popular), but only if he's heavily nerfed. Possible proof of his deconfirmation:
1. Metaknight. Let's face it: he is basically the new, fixed, Marth.
2. Ike. Where's the sense in including a character like him and Marth in the same game? Ike would instantly become the new Roy.
Marth is not broken. He might be slightly nerfed if he came back, but not as much as you imply.
1. Huh? No. Metaknight is in no way a new fixed Marth. Metaknight plays NOTHING like Marth, being a Multi-Jump light weight, plus having no move that is like Marth's. Metaknights specials are making tornadoes and drill whirlwinds out of his fast movements. And a small teleportation, plus some really quick - non-knockback combos. Marth has nothing of those.
2. Again. No. Ike plays NOTHING as Roy, or Marth for that matter. If Ike is as slow as people like Gimpy say then noone will play him anyways. But moveset wise, he would never become a "new Roy". His abilities differ completely (except for his down + b). His charged b is different in the term that he does not "swing" the sword, he cleaves it. His Up + B is way different, going only up and down, his Side + B is a mix between Fox's Side + B and Luigi's Side + B. His combos are nothing like Roy or Marths, being not combos, but just powerful hits which are packed with invulnerability frames, something Melee didn't have to help out its slower but powerful characters.
Mewtwo = See Game & Watch.
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Pichu = Clone. And Pikachu is more popular anyway.
Agreed, not returning
Roy = Clone. Further proof of his deconfirmation: he's unpopular amongst FE and Smash fans and he was mediocre to the point of being unplayable as compared to Marth.
No chance.
Sheik = Zelda is confirmed, so don't count out Sheik just yet. I hope he gets nerfed if he comes back, though.
Sheik is a she. And Sheik = Zelda is confirmed? When was this? Sheik is not confirmed yet, so she can still not make it into the game, but she will probably make it.
CF = There's no reason for him to be removed, unless they wanted to give Ganondorf his moveset, which would be pretty lame IMO. I'm sure he'll be back.
Ganondorf will get his new moveset, CF will be back with his old one.
Jigglypuff = *shrug* Jigglypuff was unique, but then we now have Metaknight. Something tells me Jigglypuff won't return.
Huh? What the hell does Metaknight have to do with Jigglypuff? Just because there is another ball-like character Jiggly won't return? So then maybe we shouldn't get any new characters as there are already too many human-like characters.
Jigglypuff is original, has a very unique style, has been in the last 2 games and just adds to the game. She might not make it, but chances are she will.
Young Link = Clone. And there is absolutely NO reason why he ought to return, as WW Link or any other form.
W/E, thats your opinion.
Alright, I'll give you an example. Falco vs. Krystal, as the second Star Fox character in Brawl, and which one has a more likely chance of being in the game.
Now, since they wanted to represent the SF series since the very first game, including Fox was a must. However, this immediately presented a problem: Star Fox Adventures was released after SSB64, and even after Melee, and until it was released Fox had never done anything outside of fly his Arwing. So, for him, they had to create a moveset from scratch. Logically speaking, somebody who is a trained pilot in a futuristic version of the Air Force, and a mercenary, is likely to be at least somewhat trained in hand-to-hand and gun combat as well. Hence, Fox's moveset.
But now we come to Melee, and Falco. Falco faces the same problem that Fox faced before SFA: that within the parameters of his universe he doesn't do anything other than fly a ship. How do we know that Falco is also a martial artist? How do we know that he carries a blaster? We don't. For all we know, outside of his ship Falco could be a total p****. But, since Fox was somewhat changed from his 64 incarnation, they simply decided to make Falco be a "classic Fox". Hence, a clone with some of Fox's original attributes, notably the old blaster.
And now we have Brawl. Fox and Falco are known to Smash players, and since SFA we have had another character, one who is simply bursting with potential as a Smash character: Krystal (I'll tell you why later). Falco is a clone, and it is highly unlikely, given what has been said and what we've seen on the Dojo, that clones will exist in Brawl. Falco, in order to not be a clone, would have to be given a new moveset (also, they wouldn't be able to give him either of Fox's old movesets and accompanying attributes because the Brawl Fox has been nerfed from his past incarnations, and if they included older, better versions of Fox in Falco then nobody would play Fox). This immediately presents a problem for the developers, because they have nothing to work with when it comes to Falco. Not only would they have to, once again, design a moveset from scratch (which is hard enough in itself), it would have to match the parameters of the SF universe and be fundamentally different from Fox's moveset.
So we have Falco, who has nothing, versus Krystal, who has the staff and magic from SFA, and psychic abilities (she displayed telepathy and clairvoyance in SF Command, and I think I read somewhere that she displayed telekinesis in SF Assault).
Now tell me: which character do you think the developers would have an easier time creating? The answer is obvious: Krystal.
Okay, lets try to point out how biased you are at the start.
I love how you say. "Well Fox is a pilot, so even though we have not seen him fight, you can kind of imagine he is skilled at hand to hand combat and pistol gun" then say this "We have never seen him fight, he just pilots around, how do we know he knows martial arts or know how to use a pistol?" Ummm.... Yeah....
Sakurai never said clones were out, that was a rumor which has been proven wrong on multiple levels.
Which character is easier to do? Well all of those which were in Melee, which already have a model done, why add new characters? We already have movesets and models done, lets give them a better look and keep the same proportions and movesets. Truly making Krystal, who has a staff is a lot more difficult in terms of balancing out the character, since she will actually be something new. A Mid-Ranged combatant, but with a weapon differing from a sword, something not seen yet, her model, animations and properties (as in heaviness, speed, power, etc.) would have to be done from scratch and as already stated by me, the balancing of such things as her speed, priority, disjointed hitboxes, lag after the move and such would be much harder than doing a new Falco with similar characteristics.
Even tough, Krystal might still beat Falco to the punch, because as we know (I am not quite sure if you do) they do not go for the easiest thing, or else they would not have changed the laws of physics and redone most character models from scratch to give them a "new feel".
Not only does the above information prove that she is more likely to be in Brawl than Falco, the fact that her moveset would be unique also increases her chances, because that's the trend with Brawl's characters. Like I already said, Brawl has more characters than Melee if you remove the clones. And if you keep the clones, Melee only has 4 more characters than Brawl. This shows that the developers are extremely committed to making sure that every character within Brawl's large roster offers a completely different experience, and such a notion clashes with the idea of clones.
Falco is gone. Deal with it.
What you explained, even if it was correct, which is not, does not in any way say Krystal has more chance.
You cannot say one characters moveset is more unique than anothers. Why? Well, Had Fox been on land before SSB64? Had Captain Falcon? Had Ice Climbers fought before Melee? Had Sheik? Now all of these have very unique movesets which were completely made up based on basically who they are, what they look like and what they do (as in job), thats all! So Falco could be given a completely unique moveset consisting of things you could not imagine.
That is why that point is not valid in any way.
How is having a little bit less or a little bit more characters than Melee UNTIL NOW, prove that they don't want clones, thats just stupid. The characters revealed until now are not in any way the full roster, so that makes no sense. And the fact that you say they want to give a unique feel to every character, yes they do, but they also want to put a lot of characters known to people, and lots of those characters are similar to others and might take time to make a "new" moveset, so they MIGHT include them as clones.
Anyways you act like clones are really that bad.
Trust me clones might look the same, but they play COMPLETELY different from each other.
Grab CF and become good at him, like really good, then try Ganon, then answer me, are clones really that similar?
. Guess I'll just have to pick up a new main.
GTFO!
