brawlpro
Smash Master
wow, must've been fun...
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Does Fox have any inherent weakness? (not a joke topic)
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tarheeljks
Smash Lord
whoever mentioned FD, that's not an inherent weakness. against marth the fact that he fastfalls is a weakness and it is too much of an advantage in general to be considered a bad thing.
debatable
brawlpro
Smash Master
no i think lilight3's got a point.
brawlpro
Smash Master
yezir...he's top tier fo a reason
Rage.
Smash Ace
Go to that list of characters that can 0 to Death him,
thats a weakness
thats a weakness
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lack of range and priority.
tarheeljks
Smash Lord
despite being nullified by other strengths, it's still detrimental.
brawlpro
Smash Master
so can c.falcon...no one mentions his speed that often...do they!?!
lol just keep in mind that you need to be ****ing gay to beat a samus (spam lasers and up smash out of the shield is your best friend)
brawlpro
Smash Master
What about reflectin??? =0
Fox's speed alone isn't going to win you games. I've lost plenty of games by just dash-dancing and trying to pull some waveshine combos here and there. There is a lot more to it than that. Its all about the mindgames, and its not something that comes with any character, but with the player.
yeah and stopping her missiles with jabs and ftilts but don't do it too much or you'll get mind gamed
brawlpro
Smash Master
guess so, samus is a pain, sux my friend's samus sux so i can't record matches against one =P
technomancer
Smash Champion
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Roys down b counters fox's down b when used correctly.
brawlpro
Smash Master
ok, roy doesn't counter fox because he can counter his "shine"(which he can do rarely)...its because of dtilts>fsmash...ooo a good and quick 30 damage...and chaingrabing>fsmash/dsmash...and his b attack is a great edge guard.
tarheeljks
Smash Lord
don't take everything so seriously
Shai Hulud
Smash Lord
3GOD is correct. The characters who give Fox the most trouble, like Marth, can edgeguard him very easily from low damage.
brawlpro
Smash Master
i wasn't, i forgot the lol after i said ooo 30 damage...
thebluedeath1000
Smash Champion
Its called ledgeteching.
Jihnsius
Smash Lord
Peach owns Fox on most stages.
brawlpro
Smash Master
hmm, yeah she does lol, fox can get owned by peaches ugly chaingrabing...and utrow>uair won't even work cause peach can nair you, but fox can drillshine and waveshine peach well, unless the peach sdi's...
Fox biggest weakness is that to play him well you need to both have quick fingers and be able to think just as quick. If you aren't fast enough, some things can't be done (extreme case-wave shining, nit-picky case- double shining to get someone who knows to shield the first shine), and if you can't "control the speed" you run into the problem of doing things that are quick, but pointless.
His recovery isn't that good--it has distance and speed, but really easy to abuse by many people (the list has been said already--I'd just like to add shiek, peach, and ness to it) It isn't bad, but that isn't the reason he's top tier.
His recovery isn't that good--it has distance and speed, but really easy to abuse by many people (the list has been said already--I'd just like to add shiek, peach, and ness to it) It isn't bad, but that isn't the reason he's top tier.
Fixed it. Fox has the advantage over peach. waveshine>usmash kills after 75% on most stages, and the uthrow>uair wrecks her. Not to mention on larger stages, fox can run away lasering for super effectiveness (which is why DL64 is a good fox stage in the matchup). On smaller stages, go for more low-mid % uthrow>uairs. And drillshines>usmash is amazing against peach. Don't bother waveshining her off the stage. When you get to the end, usmash. It's better almost all of the time.