Do you think nintendo will still be making GC controllers for brawl?

[Sculelos]

Nintendo won't have to make GC controllers, when people can just buy CC controllers. If you have GC controllers, then they'll most likely work for BRAWL

QFT, all games that work with the classic also work with the gamecube controller, so why would Brawl be any different...

Besides Nintendo might release a traditional shell controller, or they will probably still continue to produce gamecube controllers if their still selling...

...And besides to all the worriers of the wiimote+nunchuck controls, these controls will work, they might not have C-Stick Smashing, and only 1 button to shield, and no pressure sensitive shielding eather, and might be a bit weird if used to playing with a different controller, but the controller scheme I thought up works perfectly, anyways here is my control scheme.

Analog Stick (Nunchuck), Move
A Button, Regular Attacks
B Button, Special Attacks
+, Pause
-, Taunt
DPad, Jump
Z, Shield
C, Grab
A+B, Grab (same as grabbing on the wiimote menu)

Really, brawl doesn't require that many buttons.

And also I've been thinking on what controller to assign to each player slot and I think having a controller menu where players just hold the start or the + buton to get assigned slots would be the best solution.

 

[Mr.GAW]

Analog Stick (Nunchuck), Move
A Button, Regular Attacks
B Button, Special Attacks
+, Pause
-, Taunt
DPad, Jump
Z, Shield
C, Grab
A+B, Grab (same as grabbing on the wiimote menu)

I don't like the idea of jumping with down on the DPad, everything would feel somewhat awkward, switching from down D pad to A button. Maybe thats just me. Short hopping however, would be very difficult, considering the down button is ment to be pushed down, and must people slide their finger across Y for sh's. and the c-stick is crucial to melee.

 

[Sensai]

^^^

/agreed

Which is all the more reason the CC will probably be pushed on people, along with an optional GC control scheme; C-stick and ease of use.

Sure, the Wii remote can (and probably will) have a control scheme, but in my mind it will pale in comparison to that of the CC and GC controllers.

 

[Mr.GAW]

Yup.

end topic and all future controller topics.

 

[The_Famous_SK]

For some reason, no wireless remote can compare to the long battery life of the wavebird. My Wii controller craps out after 20 hours of gameplay, give or take. With the classic controller attached, you get like 4 hours. I'll stick with the GC controllers, thank you.

 

[Superstar]

Wow, are you sure that Classic Controllers have a short battery life? It should actually be more, since the accelerometer should be off when the classic controller is attached.

Since you are getting 20 hours, what you are doing, pointing [takes the most juice]? Maybe your batteries are weak? You could try rechargeable batteries.

 

[Sensai]

I don't think the CC takes much juice...especially not as much as you stated.

I've played on it for quite a while, and it hasn't done anything noticeably more then the previous less then perfect battery life.

 

[Mr.GAW]

Wow, are you sure that Classic Controllers have a short battery life? It should actually be more, since the accelerometer should be off when the classic controller is attached.

Since you are getting 20 hours, what you are doing, pointing [takes the most juice]? Maybe your batteries are weak? You could try rechargeable batteries.

I don't think the accelerameter turns off when the CC is attatched, I also tdon't think the Wiimote uses any more juice while you are pointing, it really can't tell the difference if it is on the screen or not, the Wii is what interprets that data. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think the CC takes much juice...especially not as much as you stated.

I've played on it for quite a while, and it hasn't done anything noticeably more then the previous less then perfect battery life.

I agree. I don't think it makes a difference weather it is the nunchuck or CC is attatched. I don't even think having a peripheral attatched makes much of a difference.

 

[Superstar]

Actually, Nintendo states that when you are using the Pointing, you get 30 hours. If you use only the accelerometer, you get 60 hours. However, I cannot find the source, I remember reading it on IGN.

The game tells the Wii-mote which section to use.

 

[Sensai]

I agree.

Duh?

And that's interesting, Superstar....very interesting.

Woah, hey, I'm a Smash Lord. Cool.

/end off-topicness

 

[Mr.GAW]

Actually, Nintendo states that when you are using the Pointing, you get 30 hours. If you use only the accelerometer, you get 60 hours. However, I cannot find the source, I remember reading it on IGN.

The game tells the Wii-mote which section to use.

Actually, I sort of remember reading that now. If you can get a link I'll apologize.

 

[Superstar]

I knew you needed a RELIABLE link, but I couldn't search it easily, so what I did was go to Wikipedia, and go to references.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/718/718946p1.html

It says it right there. Of course, you don't have to apologize. You didn't hurt my feelings, and you did ask for a correction in case of error.

 

[Mr.GAW]

hmm.... interesting. You learn something new everyday. I apologize anyway.

 

[h1roshi]

Why would it be only for the GC/CC controller? That'd just be stupid marketing, noone would buy 4 controllers just to play one Wii game. Sakurai said that the battles won't use motion-sensing, and that he didn't want to ALIENATE the old players, so he is probably giving the OPTION to play it with GC controllers, as well as the Wiichukmote. The Wiimote+Nunchuk have enough buttons, so why not?

A = A attack
B = B attack
D-pad = Taunt OR C-stick replacement
1 = Taunt if not used for the above
Z = Shield
C = Alternative jump button?
Stick = Movement

pretty much sums it up...peace

-hiroshi

 

[L5LM_Gtlink]

pretty much sums it up...peace

-hiroshi

yup.

Also, I get about 20 hours on my Wiimote now with rechargable batteries. When i just got the system, the stock batteries that came with the system gave me 40+ hours.

 

[BrTarolg]

personally, i like the GC controller much more than the classic because of the shell design.

but there are lots of mentuions of a shell controller for the wii, so im not too worried.

 

[Sensai]

Those 'mentuions' are from a while ago, before the CC was announced. I'm pretty sure the CC is what that evolved into.

 

[bluebomber22]

as other people have stated, im pretty sure you'll be able to play with all 3, the gc, cc, and wiimot/nunchuck. why wouldn't you be? they all have plenty of buttons and it will please everybody

 

[Sensai]

The reason they wouldn't include any of the three control schemes is actually very simple. And there are a bunch of reasons, actually.

1) To force people to spend money on a classic controller.
2) It takes time to make said control schemes.
3) They want to discontinue GC controllers.

 

[Classic-Black]

The reason they wouldn't include any of the three control schemes is actually very simple. And there are a bunch of reasons, actually.

1) To force people to spend money on a classic controller.
2) It takes time to make said control schemes.
3) They want to discontinue GC controllers.

Agreed. It'll play out similarly to when, i believe it was Super Mario World, was released on the Virtual Console. Alot of people had the expectation you could use your cube controller, but anyone who downloaded SMW had to buy the CC or not play the game. Brawl will likely push the CC, while leaving the option to those who already have GC controllers to use those. Sakurai said not to throw away the GC contollers on some IGN article, so it's likely if you have one you can use one, If you don't buy the CC

 

[Creo]

The possibility of using the GC controller for Brawl is a likely 40%.
The other sixty is a virtual console controller because it's more modern and it's perfectly
compatible. But IMO, it can go either way. Nintendo's choice.

 

[GreenMamba]

I love it when people put arbitrary percentages on chances that we have no control over and know very little about.

No, wait, I don't. I hate it.

 

[Creo]

actually, I know a lot about it!
Miyamoto said it at GDC...

 

[Y34HDUD3!!!]

Bah, i think they'll go for both CC and GC. The only thing I'm sure is that they will not use only the GC one.... Y'know for the people that never had a GC and stuff. I hope I still had mine.

 

[Sensai]

^^^

Agreed. One way or another, GC will not be the only one.

And Creo, I'd love to see that. I'm not being rude or anything, and I mean no disrespect, but I'm almost sure he didn't say anything about that. In fact, the only time the word 'Smash' was said at GDC was when all of us Nintendo fanboys said 'Where the hell is Smash?'

 

[Mr.GAW]

Maybe he's talking about GDC '06 or something. I dunno if smash was mentioned then either, but that could be what he's talking about. Otherwise, I agree, I would love to see that.

 

[Creo]

It probably wasn't GDC then (My mistake) but I have heard that somewhere on TV before:/

 

[Sensai]

^^^

Doubtful. More so then GDC.

Where you heard it from was probably someone around these boards, claiming to have heard it from someone who had heard it from someone who had read it on IGN.com. If this is the case (it is) then it's inaccurate, as IGN was merely speculating on a quote that Sakurai said, which was something to the effect of he 'wasn't so sure you should throw your controllers out' or something like that.

And that was from E3 of last year...meaning, about a year ago.

 

[Creo]

I will take note to that next time, thanks!

 

[Johnknight1]

Bah, i think they'll go for both CC and GC. The only thing I'm sure is that they will not use only the GC one.... Y'know for the people that never had a GC and stuff. I hope I still had mine.

^^^^ Agreed. As long as I can own ppl with the awsome Wavebird or normal GC controllers, I'm good. Also, why not add the CC to the mix as a option (with customizable controls!!).

Now, I really wonder if Nintendo will come out with a new Wii controller that is more traditional. I've heard two or so games on the Wii use the GC controller (multiple times, from reliable sources). Sooner or later Nintendo will have to come out with a more traditional controller.

Sooner or later Nintendo will need to make a new controller for non-virtuality games if they want the traditional game style still on the plate without relying soly for that on the GC controller. If Nintendo does make a more traditional controller, it will probably be wireless and still have rumble. (just because rumble owns!) Even if Nintendo does this (I doubt it), the CC and GC controller will still most likely work with SSBB!

 

[GreenMamba]

...? The Classic Controller is about as traditional as controllers get, I don't see why Nintendo would need to make another.

 

[Johnknight1]

...? The Classic Controller is about as traditional as controllers get, I don't see why Nintendo would need to make another.

I like it and all, but it wouldn't feel like it would work for me in SSBB. I doubt Nintendo will, but hey you never know.

 

[Creo]

^^^^

Agree... the Classic Controller doesn't have a shape or feel to play Brawl.(IMO)

 

[slartibartfast42]

maybe nintendo will make a gcn controller shell that you put the wiimote in

they'll still be making money by forcing you to buy something new

 

[Metaknights_Biggest_Fan]

where'd you get that picture? And why are people still talking about this when It's already been proven that Nintendo will STILL USE GCN CONTROLLER FOR BRAWL "so it's easier on the player" As Takando said.

 

[Sensai]

MBF (that's you, above me), I'll give you 50 bucks if you can show me a link to that information that's worth 2 cents.

And that picture is an OLD mark-up of what the classic controller might be like.

 

[BrTarolg]

oh well - maybe its just me, but the CC controller is just ugly to hold compared to the GC one.

i honestly beleive that GC controller is the best out there because its nice to hold and it fits really nicely in the hand.

 

[Creo]

I agree with Sensai, I have never heard that for a fact yet as well...

 

[Sensai]

BrTarolg, did you play Smash 64? Did you say the exact same thing about that and the GC controller?