Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Michael the Spikester]

Seeing all this talk about the Nickelodeon game makes me wish we had a place to talk about other non video game characters. There are so many characters that could bring really fun and interesting movesets to Smash such as Predator, Venom, Edward Elric, and others that could be fun to discuss but I’m not sure if there’s a place here that we’re allowed to do so.

Go to the gaming section of the forum. That should be a place to do such a thing. There's a thread on Nick All-Stars Brawl and even the concept idea of a SEGA Smash game.

 

[SKX31]

It's impossible to bring back in its current form but it would've been very easy to bring back if you just altered its functionality slightly, which you'd think might be worthwhile for a location as iconic as Pac-Maze, especially when the alternative is a bunch of butt, but I guess not.

I have no idea why Ultimate decided to keep Pac Land instead of Pac Maze. Pac Maze is much more iconic and Pac Land is probably the ugliest stage I’ve ever seen. It looks like someone made it in 5 minutes in MS Paint.

Yeah, the probable and simple reason why is good ol' corner cutting. Sure, Sakurai and co. could alter Pac-Maze's functionality to fit the Switch's environment... but why do that when your plate consists off:

• Further changing the game to try and entice long-time players by pointing out the new stuff one can do.
• Ca. 10 new and returning characters that have been missing from Smash 4, the latter of which are the centrepieces behind "EVERYONE IS HERE!". Oh and the former were meant to further drum up interest.
• A pretty long Adventure Mode that neccessitated several World Maps, as well as an entire Sticker Spirit system.
• Five new stages that are of higher priority (Read: Gotta include Odyssey and BotW to further drum up interest.).
• Redesigning the online system (which wound up backfiring granted, but they made that decision).

All of that in a decently short timing window. Also, the Golden Plains example was much simpler to do, so yeah. They went for the much simpler route of just porting Pac-Land, even if it's infamously bad.

Also:

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[DarthEnderX]

The salt. The limitless salt...

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Smash Concepts (that I might expand upon later): A hypothetical Xenoblade Chronicles X stage has weather conditions that add buffs and debuffs to all players:

• Clear: The default state. No effect.
• Cloudy: No effect.
• Rain: Beam attacks, such as Robo Beam, Blaster, and even Final Smashes like Zero Laser, are slightly less powerful.
• Heavy Rain: Beam attacks are a lot less powerful.
• Thunderstorm: Beam attacks are slightly less powerful while electric attacks are a lot more powerful. Electric beams like Thoron get a slight boost overall.
• Rainbow: Attacks with random elements, such as Vegetable, Hero's Smash Attacks, and Green Missile have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect.
• Aurora: Attacks with random elements have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect, and magical attacks are slightly more powerful.
• Crimson Aurora: Attacks with random elements have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect, magical attacks are a lot more powerful, and Meteor Smashes launch a bit farther.
• Meteor Showers: Attacks with random elements have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect, and Meteor Smashes launch a lot farther.
• Brimstone Rain: All players take minor damage at a constant rate, and fire attacks are a lot more powerful.
• Heat Wave: Fire attacks are a lot more powerful.
• Sandstorm: It's slightly harder to see.
• Electromagnetic Storm: Everyone takes minor damage at a constant rate, and electric attacks are a lot more powerful.
• Dense Fog: Attacks with random elements have a lower chance of triggering the more favorable effect.
• Energy Mist: Magical attacks do a lot more damage, Rob's Robo Burner recharges a lot faster, and Rocket Belts will quickly recharge while not in use.
• Spores: Melee attacks do slightly less damage (so most attacks that aren't projectiles), and nobody can see anything.
• Rising Energy Mist: Magical attacks do slightly more damage, and R.O.B.'s Robo Burner recharges slightly faster and Rocket Belts will slowly recharge while not in use.

It should probably be altered to affect the cast less disproportionately, but I think it could be a neat feature.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

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Atta boy Doug

And No, Patrick, this doesn’t necessarily mean Master Chief isn’t coming to Smash

 

[Mushroomguy12]

The salt. The limitless salt...

Well having Josh is better than the other guy.....

 

[pupNapoleon]

Anywho...

so I really do think the most likely next character is Dragaux. (I do have a few other thoughts, but this is the biggest).
What would be your thoughts?

For the record, some others:

• Paper Mario (end on a Mario)
• Balloon Fighter (tribute to Iwata)
• Dixie (a character who was previously going to be in)
• Waluigi (for the outcry, and because it is one of the big Nintendo characters, it's even MARIO)
• if third party, I think Anthropomorphic, and I think that Frogger, Spyro, or Rayman are most likely.

I'm also starting to think that a Deluxe version of this game is going to come out on Switch year 6, when we get an actual pro version, complete with Rollback Netcode, and about 12 new fighters (of which 5 will be echo).
....but that is an entirely separate conversation.

 

[Eldrake]

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Atta boy Doug

And No, Patrick, this doesn’t necessarily mean Master Chief isn’t coming to Smash

Smash Fans: Creates thousands of conspiracy theories for why there's a Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf
Phil Spencer: Actually I just like it.

 

[SNEKeater]

Smash Fans: Creates thousands of conspiracy theories for why there's a Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf
Phil Spencer: Actually I just like it.

That's pretty much the answer lol

Fanboys on the internet killing each other because of console wars, meanwhile the executives and devs of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are just friendly and playing games from other platforms.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

meanwhile the executives and devs of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are just friendly and playing games from other platforms.

Exactly. It's awesome, really... We can all get along; it only takes a bit of effort.



So you're saying there's a chance?

Sony Needs a Foothold in Smash Ultimate Like Microsoft Has

Microsoft has teamed up with Nintendo on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate twice now, so Sony needs to get in on the action or it'll miss out.

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[FreeFox]

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Atta boy Doug

And No, Patrick, this doesn’t necessarily mean Master Chief isn’t coming to Smash

So, does that put this switch on XBOX presentation theory on the same level as chair theory?

Anywho...

so I really do think the most likely next character is Dragaux. (I do have a few other thoughts, but this is the biggest).
What would be your thoughts?

For the record, some others:

• Paper Mario (end on a Mario)
• Balloon Fighter (tribute to Iwata)
• Dixie (a character who was previously going to be in)
• Waluigi (for the outcry, and because it is one of the big Nintendo characters, it's even MARIO)
• if third party, I think Anthropomorphic, and I think that Frogger, Spyro, or Rayman are most likely.

I'm also starting to think that a Deluxe version of this game is going to come out on Switch year 6, when we get an actual pro version, complete with Rollback Netcode, and about 12 new fighters (of which 5 will be echo).
....but that is an entirely separate conversation.

-Dragaux: I dont know who Dragaux is or what he or she would add.
-Paper Mario: Nice. He is one of my two remaining most wanted.
-Balloon Fighter: Why? We already have villager.
-Dixie: If original, I would be fine. Semi clone, fine but less interested. Echo? What a waste.
-Waluigi: I am kinda indifferent. I suppose I should congratulate his fans.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Smash Concepts (that I might expand upon later): A hypothetical Xenoblade Chronicles X stage has weather conditions that add buffs and debuffs to all players:

• Clear: The default state. No effect.
• Cloudy: No effect.
• Rain: Beam attacks, such as Robo Beam, Blaster, and even Final Smashes like Zero Laser, are slightly less powerful.
• Heavy Rain: Beam attacks are a lot less powerful.
• Thunderstorm: Beam attacks are slightly less powerful while electric attacks are a lot more powerful. Electric beams like Thoron get a slight boost overall.
• Rainbow: Attacks with random elements, such as Vegetable, Hero's Smash Attacks, and Green Missile have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect.
• Aurora: Attacks with random elements have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect, and magical attacks are slightly more powerful.
• Crimson Aurora: Attacks with random elements have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect, magical attacks are a lot more powerful, and Meteor Smashes launch a bit farther.
• Meteor Showers: Attacks with random elements have a higher chance of triggering the more favorable effect, and Meteor Smashes launch a lot farther.
• Brimstone Rain: All players take minor damage at a constant rate, and fire attacks are a lot more powerful.
• Heat Wave: Fire attacks are a lot more powerful.
• Sandstorm: It's slightly harder to see.
• Electromagnetic Storm: Everyone takes minor damage at a constant rate, and electric attacks are a lot more powerful.
• Dense Fog: Attacks with random elements have a lower chance of triggering the more favorable effect.
• Energy Mist: Magical attacks do a lot more damage, Rob's Robo Burner recharges a lot faster, and Rocket Belts will quickly recharge while not in use.
• Spores: Melee attacks do slightly less damage (so most attacks that aren't projectiles), and nobody can see anything.
• Rising Energy Mist: Magical attacks do slightly more damage, and R.O.B.'s Robo Burner recharges slightly faster and Rocket Belts will slowly recharge while not in use.

It should probably be altered to affect the cast less disproportionately, but I think it could be a neat feature.

This.

I love this.

 

[ZelDan]

Yeah, I mean OBVIOUSLY Phil Spencer has the Switch because he's a huge fan of the system guys, come on now...

...........And also because Halo Master Chief Collection is coming to the Switch. please I need this.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

The salt. The limitless salt...

No Crimson Chin or Butt Ugly Martians? I'm outta here!

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Anywho...

so I really do think the most likely next character is Dragaux. (I do have a few other thoughts, but this is the biggest).
What would be your thoughts?

For the record, some others:

• Paper Mario (end on a Mario)
• Balloon Fighter (tribute to Iwata)
• Dixie (a character who was previously going to be in)
• Waluigi (for the outcry, and because it is one of the big Nintendo characters, it's even MARIO)
• if third party, I think Anthropomorphic, and I think that Frogger, Spyro, or Rayman are most likely.

I'm also starting to think that a Deluxe version of this game is going to come out on Switch year 6, when we get an actual pro version, complete with Rollback Netcode, and about 12 new fighters (of which 5 will be echo).
....but that is an entirely separate conversation.

Oh Dragaux makes a good amount of sense. I think Paper Mario is pretty likely as well, it’s still an underrepped series that’s part beloved, part new and future-proof which does have content already but half-heartedly so it fits the general narrative of second chances. Dixie falls in the same boat but without the new series and Waluigi just has the outcry and the resume to make it happen. For third parties, I leaned towards Shantae or Ubisoft since their licenses are easier to acquire thanks to the willingness they’ve shown to cooperate in the past and Shantae turned out to be an “Everybody Loves A Winner So Nobody Loved Mii”, so I have hope for a cartoonier third party in the Rabbids or Ray Man.

My list goes something like Rabbid, Paper Mario, Off The Hook with Shantae sadly falling first chance she got after I made this sort of list for myself.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Oh Dragaux makes a good amount of sense. I think Paper Mario is pretty likely as well, it’s still an underrepped series that’s part beloved, part new and future-proof which does have content already but half-heartedly so it fits the general narrative of second chances. Dixie falls in the same boat but without the new series and Waluigi just has the outcry and the resume to make it happen. For third parties, I leaned towards Shantae or Ubisoft since their licenses are easier to acquire thanks to the willingness they’ve shown to cooperate in the past and Shantae turned out to be an “Everybody Loves A Winner So Nobody Loved Mii”, so I have hope for a cartoonier third party in the Rabbids or Ray Man.

My list goes something like Rabbid, Paper Mario, Off The Hook with Shantae sadly falling first chance she got after I made this sort of list for myself.

I could also see Waluigi being revealed alongside a premier spot in the new co-op Warioware.

So, does that put this switch on XBOX presentation theory on the same level as chair theory?


-Dragaux: I dont know who Dragaux is or what he or she would add.
-Paper Mario: Nice. He is one of my two remaining most wanted.
-Balloon Fighter: Why? We already have villager.
-Dixie: If original, I would be fine. Semi clone, fine but less interested. Echo? What a waste.
-Waluigi: I am kinda indifferent. I suppose I should congratulate his fans.

Dragaux is one of three characters in Ring Fit Adventure, Nintendo's most current top selling series without a character in Smash. He is featured as prominently as the Adventurer themselves, and by my own opinion, has a lot more personality, and a more unique design.

Balloon Fighter because he is Iwata's creation- Iwata was the mentor to Sakurai, is the reason Sakurai made Ultimate, and is of course- former President of Nintendo.
Also, they were considered in the past, which is along the lines of what we have gotten as many characters in Ultimate.

 

[chocolatejr9]

No Crimson Chin or Butt Ugly Martians? I'm outta here!

Nick owns Butt Ugly Martians? That... would explain a few things...

 

[N3ON]

So, does that put this switch on XBOX presentation theory on the same level as chair theory?

nope

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Nick owns Butt Ugly Martians? That... would explain a few things...

I... actually don't know if they do, I just know it aired on Nickelodeon and they advertised the ungodly hell out of it, so I associate it with Nickelodeon.

I remember they had a video game, stupid amounts of toys with VHS tapes of the show thrown in sometimes, commercials nearly constantly including one that played all the time concerning what "BKM" stood for and them hypothesising that it stood for "Bathroom Krazy Monkeys" before realizing that Crazy doesn't have a K in it, a Burger King promo (BURGER KING!), and I remember those toys being EVERYWHERE.... and not selling, and returning to the KMart and seeing they were selling the BUM toys for like 70% OFF and I've never seen anything like that ever again. I don't think those toys ever found a home.

I have always wanted to hear backstage stories about Butt Ugly Martians like... Nickelodeon very clearly thought they had something with that show with all the crazy amount of merchandise and promotion and such, but it didn't really take off.

But that BLASTED THEME SONG man... that BLASTED THEME SONG. Can't remember my mom's birthday to save my life but that THEME SONG you KNOW I still remember the words and tune for all these years later. We are the Martians, the BUTT ugly martians.

 

[pupNapoleon]

But that BLASTED THEME SONG man... that BLASTED THEME SONG. Can't remember my mom's birthday to save my life but that THEME SONG you KNOW I still remember the words and tune for all these years later. We are the Martians, the BUTT ugly martians.

I still just want a hoverboard...

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Dragaux is one of three characters in Ring Fit Adventure, Nintendo's most current top selling series without a character in Smash.

I think that's what's killing my perception of anything Ring Fit in terms of likelihood (EDIT: Aside from the Spirit Event that we already have); It released after the pass was decided so they didn't know how big it would be, and it also wasn't a particularly high profile game either so I'm not entirely sure that Nintendo would have wanted to go as far as to add a character to advertise it.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I think that's what's killing my perception of anything Ring Fit in terms of likelihood (EDIT: Aside from the Spirit Event that we already have); It released after the pass was decided so they didn't know how big it would be, and it also wasn't a particularly high profile game either so I'm not entirely sure that Nintendo would have wanted to go as far as to add a character to advertise it.

Maybe. Maybe not. It was one of very few big new IPs from the Switch era, big enough to be given the risk of an additional accessory and upcharge- meaning that it couldn't even be sold digitally. Given the success of Wii Fit, they may have intended strong sales.... granted, Covid clearly helped.

 

[DittoInDisguise]

Anywho...

so I really do think the most likely next character is Dragaux. (I do have a few other thoughts, but this is the biggest).
What would be your thoughts?

For the record, some others:

• Paper Mario (end on a Mario)
• Balloon Fighter (tribute to Iwata)
• Dixie (a character who was previously going to be in)
• Waluigi (for the outcry, and because it is one of the big Nintendo characters, it's even MARIO)
• if third party, I think Anthropomorphic, and I think that Frogger, Spyro, or Rayman are most likely.

I'm also starting to think that a Deluxe version of this game is going to come out on Switch year 6, when we get an actual pro version, complete with Rollback Netcode, and about 12 new fighters (of which 5 will be echo).
....but that is an entirely separate conversation.

I don't think we will get Dagaux since Fp2 seems to have been decided mid to late 2019 and ring fit received a spirit event in march 2020 (if Dragaux was planned, I think they would've just held onto the spirits like 3 houses, especially with how close the event was to the arms reveal).. They sat on 3 houses spirits from july 2019 to jan 2020 but the ring fit event followed most other promo spirits (with the event a few months after their game released) which indicates, to me anyway, that a ring fit rep wasn't in the running.

I think they'll sit on Ring Fit til smash 6, then add the trainees in base (maybe even replacing Wii Fit Trainer)

As for me, I'm leaning towards:

1. King Boo (no Lm3 spirit event, despite games releasing after it getting events, makes me feel like something is happening or that nintendo saw a event as not worth it due to most of the big stuff already being present)
2. Waluigi (a 1st party that can be both a shill, for two games might I add, and have some demand behind it seems like a pretty good way to end things)
3. Ayumi (considered in the past and a release this year makes her an obvious pick to me. I mean, if Corrin can be revealed in dec 2015 and his game released in june 2015 (and early 2016 in some regions), there is pretty much nothing stopping Ayumi from repeating that).
4. Emmi (if the last character is a december release, Dread would release before it so there wouldn't be any character before the game issues)
5. Andy (Kind of the same as Emmi, but since Advance wars this year is a remake Nintendo could view the character as already out)
6. gen 4 pokemon (Arceus + the remakes give Nintendo a good reason to add a pull a pokemon from that gen)

If I had to pick, I would say Waluigi is the next most likely (with King Boo and Ayumi close behind).

 

[Theguy123]

I don't think we will get Dagaux since Fp2 seems to have been decided mid to late 2019 and ring fit received a spirit event in march 2020 (if Dragaux was planned, I think they would've just held onto the spirits like 3 houses, especially with how close the event was to the arms reveal).. They sat on 3 houses spirits from july 2019 to jan 2020 but the ring fit event followed most other promo spirits (with the event a few months after their game released) which indicates, to me anyway, that a ring fit rep wasn't in the running.

I think they'll sit on Ring Fit til smash 6, then add the trainees in base (maybe even replacing Wii Fit Trainer)

As for me, I'm leaning towards:

1. King Boo (no Lm3 spirit event, despite games releasing after it getting events, makes me feel like something is happening or that nintendo doesn't care about it)
2. Waluigi (a 1st party that can be both a shill, for two games might I add, and have some demand behind it seems like a pretty good way to end things)
3. Ayumi (considered in the past and a release this year makes her an obvious pick to me. I mean, if Corrin can be revealed in dec 2015 and his game released in june 2015 (and early 2016 in some regions), there is pretty much nothing stopping Ayumi from repeating that).
4. Emmi (if the last character is a december release, Dread would release before it so there wouldn't be any character before the game issues)
5. Andy (Kind of the same as Emmi, but since Advance wars this year is a remake Nintendo could view the character as already out)
6. gen 4 pokemon (Arceus + the remakes give Nintendo a good reason to add a pull a pokemon from that gen)

If I had to pick, I would say Waluigi is the next most likely (with King Boo and Ayumi close behind).

Nice choices but can I ask a question???

How come you think waluigi has a better chance than king boo. Not arguing or looking for arguments. Just really interested to hear your reasons

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

I still just want a hoverboard...

We don't want to conquer Earth

I JUST WANT TO FILL MY GIRTH!

Anywho...

so I really do think the most likely next character is Dragaux. (I do have a few other thoughts, but this is the biggest).
What would be your thoughts?

For the record, some others:

• Paper Mario (end on a Mario)
• Balloon Fighter (tribute to Iwata)
• Dixie (a character who was previously going to be in)
• Waluigi (for the outcry, and because it is one of the big Nintendo characters, it's even MARIO)
• if third party, I think Anthropomorphic, and I think that Frogger, Spyro, or Rayman are most likely.

I'm also starting to think that a Deluxe version of this game is going to come out on Switch year 6, when we get an actual pro version, complete with Rollback Netcode, and about 12 new fighters (of which 5 will be echo).
....but that is an entirely separate conversation.

My big Burger King bet here for now is Waluigi. He's technically a shill, the outcry, Red Shell Hat still missing... "I'm really feeling it" with Waluigi

I WOULD say Pokemon... but I've got a little feeling that it's not gonna be Pokemon.

Prior to Fighter 10, I was thinking a Sonic character had a chance but I really strongly feel that if a Sonic fighter was coming it would have been 10 since the June release would line up with the anniversary quite well and since Kazuya saw that that didn't happen... I'm thinking it's curtains for another Sonic character, though I'd love to be wrong.

 

[FreeFox]

I could also see Waluigi being revealed alongside a premier spot in the new co-op Warioware.


Dragaux is one of three characters in Ring Fit Adventure, Nintendo's most current top selling series without a character in Smash. He is featured as prominently as the Adventurer themselves, and by my own opinion, has a lot more personality, and a more unique design.

Balloon Fighter because he is Iwata's creation- Iwata was the mentor to Sakurai, is the reason Sakurai made Ultimate, and is of course- former President of Nintendo.
Also, they were considered in the past, which is along the lines of what we have gotten as many characters in Ultimate.

I see. Well, I suppose it also depends on the options of moveset. I assume you picked that particular character for a reason.

But if they pick Balloon fighter, what would they pick for the spirits? Stage? Music? I know there is already a balloon fighter stage so wouldnt it be hard to add some more uniqueness in general?

Cant argue with that. That is also the reason I think that Decidueye(due to the Arceus game) or a rhythm heaven char might be possible picks.

I don't think we will get Dagaux since Fp2 seems to have been decided mid to late 2019 and ring fit received a spirit event in march 2020 (if Dragaux was planned, I think they would've just held onto the spirits like 3 houses, especially with how close the event was to the arms reveal).. They sat on 3 houses spirits from july 2019 to jan 2020 but the ring fit event followed most other promo spirits (with the event a few months after their game released) which indicates, to me anyway, that a ring fit rep wasn't in the running.

I think they'll sit on Ring Fit til smash 6, then add the trainees in base (maybe even replacing Wii Fit Trainer)

As for me, I'm leaning towards:

1. King Boo (no Lm3 spirit event, despite games releasing after it getting events, makes me feel like something is happening or that nintendo doesn't care about it)
2. Waluigi (a 1st party that can be both a shill, for two games might I add, and have some demand behind it seems like a pretty good way to end things)
3. Ayumi (considered in the past and a release this year makes her an obvious pick to me. I mean, if Corrin can be revealed in dec 2015 and his game released in june 2015 (and early 2016 in some regions), there is pretty much nothing stopping Ayumi from repeating that).
4. Emmi (if the last character is a december release, Dread would release before it so there wouldn't be any character before the game issues)
5. Andy (Kind of the same as Emmi, but since Advance wars this year is a remake Nintendo could view the character as already out)
6. gen 4 pokemon (Arceus + the remakes give Nintendo a good reason to add a pull a pokemon from that gen)

If I had to pick, I would say Waluigi is the next most likely (with King Boo and Ayumi close behind).

King Boo could be potentially fun. Any ideas on moveset?

Being honest, I would prefer Phoenix Wright as the first pick if they wanted to add a visual novel character but I suppose it would be way easier to get and use a first party character.

Another metorid representative would be nice. Metroid deserves the love.

Andy, I like the idea in concept but I dont know how easy or hard it would be to translate it to a smash character.

As for the pokemon pick, I believe its either Decidueye or a new trainer with all the starters from Arceus.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Maybe. Maybe not. It was one of very few big new IPs from the Switch era, big enough to be given the risk of an additional accessory and upcharge- meaning that it couldn't even be sold digitally. Given the success of Wii Fit, they may have intended strong sales.... granted, Covid clearly helped.

Well...It is kind of like Wii Fit, and Wii Fit was successful, but motion controls are also more inclined to get a negative reaction from the audience nowadays, and who knew if Wii Fit's audience was still around (that would likely be partially answered by Wii Fit U's sales, but I don't know what those are and there are some issues with that data as a metric as well).

In my opinion, Ring Fit Adventure is in a pretty terrible spot now, but an amazing spot for later. I would be surprised if we didn't see Ring Fit Trainee & Ring in the next game.

Side note: Since the game is built around Ring and all the abilities he gives you, I don't think they'd add Dragoux as the game's only character unless they deemed the player's abilities as unworkable (which would be a tad ironic since combat is in the original game, but eh).

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Smash Fans: Creates thousands of conspiracy theories for why there's a Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf
Phil Spencer: Actually I just like it.

Phil Spencer:

 

[DittoInDisguise]

Nice choices but can I ask a question???

How come you think waluigi has a better chance than king boo. Not arguing or looking for arguments. Just really interested to hear your reasons

As mentioned, the big thing going for King Boo is that there is no LM3 event. However, King Boo, the poltergust (though it's the 5000 from LM2), polterpup and E gadd are all present as spirits so it is just as likely Nintendo saw no need to make a spirit event. If we disregard the lack of event, the only thing he has is that he is new (as in new release).

On other hand, Waluigi can be a promo for 2 games releasing this year (mario golf + party) and is also a requested character, so I can easily see Nintendo balancing promotion of other software with the demand (that even Reggie mentioned) for him. The big thing is his status as an AT, which nintendo could decide is good enough and give us Ayumi/King Boo instead.

Also, when I say they are close behind, I mean they are really close, almost a neck and neck type situation. Waluigi just has a bit of a lead in my mind.

King Boo could be potentially fun. Any ideas on moveset?

Not particularly, but invisibility/intangibility, painting traps, magical lightning and shields, floating/gliding, summoning clones and boos, body slams, and the bowser suit are all things from the various games they could use to create a very diverse moveset.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Is it still wrong for me to wanting Waluigi staying an assist because he's pretty much the poster boy of assists not to mention him staying as such represents his loser status in the style of **** Dastardly and Robbie Rotten.

Think of all the fun fanart pouring on all of his misfortune that'll be missed. No one represents it better then Waluigi does.

This one is especially my favorite. xD

Spoiler

Otherwise I'm settled on him being in Smash 6, just let the fun remain while it lasts until next game.

 

[Theguy123]

King Boo could be potentially fun. Any ideas on moveset?


Couldn’t possibly tell you what moves would go to specific buttons but I’ll list moves that he has in the Luigi mansion games

Tongue licking
Shooting fire balls out his crown
Shooting lighting out his crown
Chucking spike balls
Cloning himself
Turning invisible
Using paintings to trap people
Inhaling things
Turing gigantic
Summoning bombs
Extreme wind blowing
Extreme speed bashing (isn’t seen by him but can be done by the boos so it’s assumed he can do it as well)

And there’s probably more I’m missing. That’s just the Luigi mansion series. You’ve also got the mario games and the Mario spin-offs if you wanna reach into that series but why the heck would you when the LM series version is the only one that Counts in my eyes. The other design is

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

That's pretty much the answer lol

Fanboys on the internet killing each other because of console wars, meanwhile the executives and devs of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are just friendly and playing games from other platforms.

And then you've got the people at Capcom of Japan and Sega who are literally BUTCHERING their reputation just to try and get the love of nostalgia-nerds (see Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite & Sonic: Lost World).

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Is it still wrong for me to wanting Waluigi staying an assist because he's pretty much the poster boy of assists not to mention him staying as such represents his loser status in the style of **** Dastardly and Robbie Rotten.

Think of all the fun fanart pouring on all of his misfortune that'll be missed.

This one is especially my favorite. xD

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Otherwise I'm settled on him being in Smash 6, just let the fun remain while it lasts until next game.

To be honest, I kinda want Waluigi for that exact reason. Everybody waiting excitedly for the final Ultimate character, only for the guy characterized as THE loser to get in.

I expect many fanart of Waluigi rubbing his victory in the rosters face if he does get in.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

To be honest, I kinda want Waluigi for that exact reason. Everybody waiting excitedly for the final Ultimate character, only for the guy characterized as THE loser to get in.

I expect many fanart of Waluigi rubbing his victory in the rosters face if he does get in.

Then watch how Sakurai proceeds to make Waluigi a very weak fighter who can be instantly KO'd in one hit. Totally fits his character there. xD

Becomes the laughingstock of all the fighters, more misfortune raining on his pride.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

And then you've got the people at Capcom of Japan and Sega who are literally BUTCHERING their reputation just to try and get the love of nostalgia-nerds (see Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite...

Actually, Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite was the one that went "legacy? What's that?" and dropped a bunch of their legacy cast members and instead added all MCU stuff to be hip with the kids, and then a guy had to take the fall so the companies involved wouldn't be mad at him, but did so by downplaying the fan's wants, making everything worse.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So in the possible chance Waluigi is our last fighter. How would his spirit board be represented?

And his stage? Waluigi Pinball perhaps?

 

[Eldrake]

So in the possible chance Waluigi is our last fighter. How would his spirit board be represented?

And his stage? Waluigi Pinball perhaps?

The spirit board is literally just Waluigi. All variant spirits of Waluigi, plus an original character Legend level Galeem-Waluigi

 

[DittoInDisguise]

So in the possible chance Waluigi is our last fighter. How would his spirit board be represented?

And his stage? Waluigi Pinball perhaps?

Spirit board will probably just be spin off stuff (karts/items from MK, golf/tennis/soccer/baseball versions of characters, mario party items/dice, etc.).

As for stage, I would rather have Waluigi Island. We don't have a mario party stage at the moment, so it would be kind of cool if he came with one.

The spirit board is literally just Waluigi. All variant spirits of Waluigi, plus an original character Legend level Galeem-Waluigi

I have to say, I am liking the idea. We have 3 waluigi spirits already, so we just need like 6 or 7 more.

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

Spirit board will probably just be spin off stuff (karts/items from MK, golf/tennis/soccer/baseball versions of characters, mario party items/dice, etc.).

As for stage, I would rather have Waluigi Island. We don't have a mario party stage at the moment, so it would be kind of cool if he came with one.



I have to say, I am liking the idea. We have 3 waluigi spirits already, so we just need like 6 or 7 more.

Would make sense given how selfish Waluigi is. The spotlight for the spirit board would just be ALL HIM.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

So in the possible chance Waluigi is our last fighter. How would his spirit board be represented?

And his stage? Waluigi Pinball perhaps?

Spirit Board? There are a few ways you can swing it:

• Waluigi Time: Every Spirit is Waluigi. It's a bit of a meme, but it works so well.
• Spin-off Squad: Each Spirit is a wacky character from the spin-off games.
  • For example, a Spirit Board like this could include Wiggler (Mario Kart 7), Honey Queen (Mario Kart 7), Chain Chomp (Mario Tennis Aces), Donkey Kong Jr. (Super Mario Kart/Mario Kart Tour), Petey Piranha (Mario Strikers: Charged), and Goomba (Super Mario Sluggers).
• Try Hard Baddies: Each Spirit is of an evil character that tries really hard, but is really sucky at their job.
• Better Luck Next Time!: It's just Assist Trophy (including former Assist Trophys that aren't in the game anymore) Spirits.
  • ...Probably don't do this one.

As for the stage, Waluigi Pinball is a really popular track with Waluigi front and center. EDIT: It's probably the most iconic Waluigi themed location, and has tons of potential for fun stage design. The only reason why you wouldn't pick this is because Mario Kart's music is separated from Super Mario's music, which could cause problems with track selection.