Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[CannonStreak]

Has Nintendo said when their E3 Direct event will be, by the way?

 

[Arcanir]

Porky and Sylux are strangely absent

Porky's already been mentioned, but Sylux isn't really that strange. We only got three Hunters as spirits in Smash (Trace, Kanden, and Gandrayda) while we're missing others like Ghor, Weavel, and Rundas, the latter of which was the most popular of the Prime 3 trio. Sylux being missing is just Smash not really covering that base well, they probably just picked some that fit what they wanted as fights and left it at that.

 

[Gengar84]

Sorry, it just sounded like you didn't.

Point remains Bayonetta worked, the same could be done for Morrigan censored like how Corrin, Palutena, Pyra, and Mythra were and Shantae being a spirit.

Mai couldn't happen even as a background cameo is due to no panties which CERO has most issue with.

No problem.

I don’t really know why they couldn’t have just given Mai shorts under her dress to censor her. It doesn’t seem like that would have been that big a deal.

 

[Stratos]

Why’d you post those two characters?

Not only have these two in mind, but simply because some old Nintendo games not to mention the mention me and as for the other two DLC newcomers actually hope for Crash Bandicoot and Earthworm Jim.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

MvC1 even thought they could get away with having "Lilith" just use Morrigan's sprites. She really isn't the best choice to prove there's more to Darkstalkers just for that.

Hey Marvel vs. Capcom 2 had Felicia.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I don’t really know why they couldn’t have just given Mai shorts under her dress to censor her. It doesn’t seem like that would have been that big a deal.

Any character with no panties = No go.

That's how CERO works apparently. Plus Sakurai and the team didn't want to put any effort and work into having her in there just as a background character as well as respecting what her character is about which is her sex appeal without having to censor her.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

No problem.

I don’t really know why they couldn’t have just given Mai shorts under her dress to censor her. It doesn’t seem like that would have been that big a deal.

It probably woulda been too much work for a mere stage cameo

Pyra and Mythra got that censorship job upon becoming playable but for a mere stage cameo?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah Doom Slayer as a Master Chief echo is like making Sonic a Mario echo, Doom Slayer's particularly interesting when a friend of mine managed to describe his playstyle as "Chrom with a gun". Master Chief would be more tactical so he'd be slower, have defensive moves and likely thinner hitboxes for the gunfire

 

[Stratos]

The penultimate DLC character will reveal the day of E3, the last probably in September.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

The penultimate DLC character will reveal the day of E3, the last probably in September.

Banking on a double reveal. CP10 releasing June, CP11 releasing September-October.

 

[Gengar84]

It probably woulda been too much work for a mere stage cameo

Pyra and Mythra got that censorship job upon becoming playable but for a mere stage cameo?

That makes sense. It looks like they did censor Bridget from Xenoblade 2 as a background character but that is probably easier since she was first party.

 

[Gnateb]

Alright, last part of my stretchy speculation for now, I'll keep it short.

Like I've said before, Motoi Sakuraba has had more of his compositions, arranged by him, show up in both Smash 4 and Brawl.

Ultimate is the first time he's had no new compositions, and the first time he has had DLC songs. All of his compositions that got into Smash are owned by Nintendo. In FP2, however, he got his first third party arrangements, of Microsoft and Squeenix owned tracks.

Maybe (and this is a real stretch) his original compositions for Ultimate are in FP2, and are DLC this time because they are third-party owned?

 

[Merengue]

Porky's already been mentioned, but Sylux isn't really that strange. We only got three Hunters as spirits in Smash (Trace, Kanden, and Gandrayda) while we're missing others like Ghor, Weavel, and Rundas, the latter of which was the most popular of the Prime 3 trio. Sylux being missing is just Smash not really covering that base well, they probably just picked some that fit what they wanted as fights and left it at that.

How has Porky already been mentioned?

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

The penultimate DLC character will reveal the day of E3, the last probably in September.

Can you please chime in to the conversation at hand, instead of just posting a message with no context?

 

[Stratos]

Banking on a double reveal. CP10 releasing June, CP11 releasing September-October.

Yes, you are right.

 

[RileyXY1]

Banking on a double reveal. CP10 releasing June, CP11 releasing September-October.

I don't think that a dual reveal is happening unless we are getting post-pass DLC.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Alright, last part of my stretchy speculation for now, I'll keep it short.

Like I've said before, Motoi Sakuraba has had more of his compositions, arranged by him, show up in both Smash 4 and Brawl.

Ultimate is the first time he's had no new compositions, and the first time he has had DLC songs. All of his compositions that got into Smash are owned by Nintendo. In FP2, however, he got his first third party arrangements, of Microsoft and Squeenix owned tracks.

Maybe (and this is a real stretch) his original compositions for Ultimate are in FP2, and are DLC this time because they are third-party owned?

Isn't Sakuraba a freelancer? They probably just thought "Oh, we haven't had Sakuraba in a while and he's available, neat!"

 

[Michael the Spikester]

How has Porky already been mentioned?

He's already represented as a spirit.

He's just inside the Absolutely Safe Capsule. A joke Sakurai and the developers threw in.

 

[Gnateb]

Isn't Sakuraba a freelancer? They probably just thought "Oh, we haven't had Sakuraba in a while and he's available, neat!"

Yeah, he's a freelancer, but every song he writes for a company is completely owned by said company.

 

[Merengue]

He's already represented as a spirit.

He's just inside the Absolutely Safe Capsule. A joke Sakurai and the developers threw in.

He's not inside the Absolutely Safe Capsule. Where have they made a joke about other spirits?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I don't think that a dual reveal is happening unless we are getting post-pass DLC.

Except to my knowledge when it came to Smash being revealed at E3 both Sm4sh and Ultimate. Hasn't there always been a double reveal?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Yes, you are right.

How are you so sure?

 

[Garteam]

Basically, when it comes to Smash; no pants = no service unless you’re a furry like Sonic



uhhhh? Can I have some context?

Sora's not in because Sakurai couldn't work around Donald not wearing pants.

 

[RileyXY1]

Except to my knowledge when it came to Smash being revealed at E3 both Sm4sh and Ultimate. Hasn't there always been a double reveal?

Patterns aren't everything. They can easily break it and reveal only a single character, which is what I expect to happen.

 

[Gnateb]

Isn't Sakuraba a freelancer? They probably just thought "Oh, we haven't had Sakuraba in a while and he's available, neat!"

I'm also pretty sure that licensing a freelancer to arrange paid DLC songs, owned by separate third parties, isn't a spur-of-the-moment thing

 

[Gengar84]

One character I’m surprised I don’t see brought up more often is Ring Fit Adventure girl. That game is hugely successful and we already have Wii Fit Trainer so she’d fit right in. I don’t particularly care about her but she’s my prediction for most likely character at this point.

 

[RileyXY1]

One character I’m surprised I don’t see brought up more often is Ring Fit Adventure girl. That game is hugely successful and we already have Wii Fit Trainer so she’d fit right in. I don’t particularly care about her but she’s my prediction for most likely character at this point.

Ring Fit Adventure got a Spirit Event.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

One character I’m surprised I don’t see brought up more often is Ring Fit Adventure girl. That game is hugely successful and we already have Wii Fit Trainer so she’d fit right in. I don’t particularly care about her but she’s my prediction for most likely character at this point.

That had a Spirit Event so she's out of the running unless Pass 3 miracly happens.

 

[Stratos]

How are you so sure?

I'm not.

 

[Garteam]

One character I’m surprised I don’t see brought up more often is Ring Fit Adventure girl. That game is hugely successful and we already have Wii Fit Trainer so she’d fit right in. I don’t particularly care about her but she’s my prediction for most likely character at this point.

"Spirited Away (Japanese: 千と千尋の神隠し, Hepburn: Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi, 'Sen and Chihiro’s Spiriting Away') is a 2001 Japanese animated fantasy film written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki, animated by Studio Ghibli for Tokuma Shoten, Nippon Television Network, Dentsu, Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Tohokushinsha Film, and Mitsubishi.[6] The film stars Rumi Hiiragi, Miyu Irino, Mari Natsuki, Takeshi Naito, Yasuko Sawaguchi, Tsunehiko Kamijō, Takehiko Ono and Bunta Sugawara. Spirited Away tells the story of Chihiro Ogino (Hiiragi), a 10-year-old girl who, while moving to a new neighbourhood, enters the world of Kami (spirits of Japanese Shinto folklore).[7] After her parents are turned into pigs by the witch Yubaba (Natsuki), Chihiro takes a job working in Yubaba's bathhouse to find a way to free herself and her parents and return to the human world."

Point is, Ring Fit Adventure already had a spirit event when FP2 would've been finalized, so it's out of the running.

 

[chocolatejr9]

"Spirited Away (Japanese: 千と千尋の神隠し, Hepburn: Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi, 'Sen and Chihiro’s Spiriting Away') is a 2001 Japanese animated fantasy film written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki, animated by Studio Ghibli for Tokuma Shoten, Nippon Television Network, Dentsu, Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Tohokushinsha Film, and Mitsubishi.[6] The film stars Rumi Hiiragi, Miyu Irino, Mari Natsuki, Takeshi Naito, Yasuko Sawaguchi, Tsunehiko Kamijō, Takehiko Ono and Bunta Sugawara. Spirited Away tells the story of Chihiro Ogino (Hiiragi), a 10-year-old girl who, while moving to a new neighbourhood, enters the world of Kami (spirits of Japanese Shinto folklore).[7] After her parents are turned into pigs by the witch Yubaba (Natsuki), Chihiro takes a job working in Yubaba's bathhouse to find a way to free herself and her parents and return to the human world."

Point is, Ring Fit Adventure already had a spirit event when FP2 would've been finalized, so it's out of the running.

...

You win this round...

 

[Pillow]

Yeah Doom Slayer as a Master Chief echo is like making Sonic a Mario echo, Doom Slayer's particularly interesting when a friend of mine managed to describe his playstyle as "Chrom with a gun". Master Chief would be more tactical so he'd be slower, have defensive moves and likely thinner hitboxes for the gunfire

Yeah playing tactical in Doom games is pretty much playing suboptimally. The series has always placed an emphasis on constant movement and melee combat in combination with the gun stuff.

One character I’m surprised I don’t see brought up more often is Ring Fit Adventure girl. That game is hugely successful and we already have Wii Fit Trainer so she’d fit right in. I don’t particularly care about her but she’s my prediction for most likely character at this point.

She’s likely a shoe-in for the next Smash whenever that is. RFA’s release timing doesn’t fit well with Ultimate DLC and I believe we already got a spirit event(?)

 

[Gengar84]

That had a Spirit Event so she's out of the running unless Pass 3 miracly happens.

Oh I didn’t realize there was a spirit event. Is it even confirmed that spirits disqualify characters or is that just a fan rule?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Oh I didn’t realize there was a spirit event. Is it even confirmed that spirits disqualify characters or is that just a fan rule?

I mean, it’s kinda logic, if they were gonna be playable they wouldn’t become a post-release patched in Spirit first

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah, he's a freelancer, but every song he writes for a company is completely owned by said company.

That's probably just a coincidence, cause Nintendo's in charge of hiring composers for remixes, I doubt Microsoft would have chosen ACE or Yuzo Koshiro as their first picks

I'm also pretty sure that licensing a freelancer to arrange paid DLC songs, owned by separate third parties, isn't a spur-of-the-moment thing

I'm assuming that they got to choosing composers after they got all 6 characters locked down, not individually

 

[Stratos]

I read an interview of one of the creators of the Mortal Kombat the Ed Boon has said that he would like to see the Scorpion in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, but I do not think that is likely to occur.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I read an interview of one of the creators of the Mortal Kombat Ed Boon has said that he would like to see the Scorpion in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, but I do not think that is likely to occur.

That’s probably old

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I read an interview of one of the creators of the Mortal Kombat Ed Boon has said that he would like to see the Scorpion in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, but I do not think that is likely to occur.

It especially doesn't help how unpopular the series is over in the East.

Oof.

 

[Gengar84]

I mean, it’s kinda logic, if they were gonna be playable they wouldn’t become a post-release patched in Spirit first

Yeah, that does make sense when you put it that way. I have no idea what first party they would even go with at this point since Sword and Shield and Breath of the Wild also had spirits. Maybe we’ll just get two third parties.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Yeah, that does make sense when you put it that way. I have no idea what first party they would even go with at this point since Sword and Shield and Breath of the Wild also had spirits. Maybe we’ll just get two third parties.

Can I offer you a nice Veemo in this trying time?

only Octo Expansion content in base is the spirits of Octoling Girl & Octoling Boy + Octoling Octopus
very little Splatoon 2 base game music in base. Obviously no Octo Expansion music
Splatoon 3 announced this year, coming next year

yeah I want to believe