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I'm grateful Kunio got to be a Spirit and that Arthur and Goemon got to be Miis.
It is kinda wild how this Fighters Pass has gone. Steve and Seph are two of the most internet shattering characters we’ve ever had, while Min Min and Pyra are pretty much your standard promotional picks. If we’re following that pattern, then I guess we should be expecting our last two characters to fall under those categories. Something like Chief and Ayumi, or Crash and Cinderace. Yet for some reason my mind gravitates towards “middle of the road” for the end of the pass. Something like Lloyd, Arle, Hayabusa, Bandana Dee, Tails, Chun-Li. Characters who won’t quite rock the world in the way Steve or Sephiroth did, but also aren’t quite “shills” in the way Min and Pyra are.
And that too. There's a reason the likes of Isaac are considered risky. If they weren't risky, we'd be talking about them more. The thing is, everyone has their own standards, their own personal height of entry. There's always going to be someone who disagrees with you because they're just looking at it through a different lens. Disagreement is inevitable on the boards, but that's just how it is. Don't let that discourage you, because just as much as there are people who disagree, there's probably some like-minded individuals here and there as well.
It sounds like you just want to discuss it on your terms then. That's not really how an open discussion goes.
1) It was more recently 'alive' than many other series represented (Ness says 'Hi')
Yeah, sure bro you can hope for him and ask for him... but acting like he's an incredibly likely lock and not keeping your expectations in check is seemingly only frustrating you man. It doesn't seem like a good mindset to be in. Remember ALL those characters you mentioned did get into the next game. All those characters could've gotten in, but time restraints or a creative disagreement stopped them from getting in the first time. You also gotta realize and consider how those characters have always been significantly more popular than Issac as they're tied to bigger series too.
Yeah, I'm mainly just happy we've gotten so much DLC, to begin with. Speculation is the icing on the cake for me.
Two words, Yoshi-Thomas: HECK NO! Luigi's too good to be sacrificed!You're guaranteed to get your character in Smash. But you must sacrifice Luigi.
Would you do it?
Bye Luigi.You're guaranteed to get your character in Smash. But you must sacrifice Luigi.
Would you do it?
I'm not necessarily considering him a lock, hell I still talk about various third-parties just in case I am wrong about the potential decline in hype this late in the reveals, but you are definitely right about the frustration.
too niche sorry
Me, hesitating as it’s pretty much the ONLY way for Elma to be in at this point:You're guaranteed to get your character in Smash. But you must sacrifice Luigi.
Would you do it?
Sacrifice a semiclone for my most wanted? Instantly.
Sorry Luigi but I gotta swap you out for Dr. Luigi.You're guaranteed to get your character in Smash. But you must sacrifice Luigi.
Would you do it?
I mean, my MW is still absent but I've also accepted some time ago that there's little incentive for them to be added as DLC currently. So I've already adopted the "wait til next game" mentality all by myself. Unfortunately DLC doesn't seem very welcoming toward dormant Nintendo series and will rather favor Nintendo characters from more recent memory - my MW falls under this as well, from a more relevant series than Golden Sun but a currently absent-from-Switch series nonetheless.
I personally don't really care for any of the GTA protags as playable characters (I'd rather have Saint's Row for wacky M rated sandbox guy), but yeah I'll take the soundtrack. Soviet Connection in Smash would be so sick.
Luigi's ****ing dead.You're guaranteed to get your character in Smash. But you must sacrifice Luigi.
Would you do it?
I guess the Green Mario main Elegant will have to find a new main. RIP Luigi. Gone, but your and Elegant's shenaningas will never be forgotten:You're guaranteed to get your character in Smash. But you must sacrifice Luigi.
Would you do it?
Junpei? You mean 999 Junpei? **** yeah dude, 999 has my favourite story in video games and literally cannot be recreated in any other media, a true ****ing masterpiece in every way, I have no clue what the **** Junpei would even do but I can never forget how I stayed up until 2AM on a workday after I beat 999 as I kept realizing how the story made so much sense and what was foreshadowing, a feeling only replicated by Virtue's Last Reward, a top tier game despite it's flaws
I respect your choices! However, I highly recommend learning about and playing the Mother series. It's a niche series that could use some more attention.
Except for the "video game characters only" rule.
Okay, potential newcomers with that color scheme: Amy Rose, Sakura Shinguji, Birdo, Tiki
Heck yeah I mean 999 Junpei! I feel obligated to, at this point, plug his support thread. Maybe I should get back into RTC to rack up noms for a rating on this guy...
Eh... That's like adding Rayman before Mario or Sonic to Smash. If you're looking for a wacky M-rated sandbox guy, Trevor would likely be your best bet personality-wise compared to Saint Row's generic super-powered avatar named "The Boss". He really isn't even close to likely if you compare the impact and popularity (Though the SR games are on Switch lmao!). After GTA, I would be interested in seeing a moveset for The Boss with Johnny Gat as an alt. Though I'm unsure if classic SR fans would even like the moveset considering most of them have hated the series since the third game in my experience.
Yeah, I had a feeling your pic was from GTA. :D
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I think the Boss should be in Smash, just that I personally would prefer him. I'd still say GTA is the frontrunner for this sort of game, but these type of series in general don't fit the "feel" of Smash to me. It's not so much the violence or vulgarity so much as it is the lack of a fantasy element in them.
The argument against them seems to mostly be founded in the idea that we got Splatoon costumes already earlier in this pass.
I'm still holding out hope for a whole echo pass right at the end man... Octolings, Impa, Dixie, Shadow, Big Boss, etc I feel would make a lot of people happy. As they're DLC, they could also get small touchups and tweaks to be more like Ken echos. Seeing them right at the end would fit how we base game usually makes semi-clone and echo characters by the end of normal development.
Perfect timing, I started nominating him
I don't know what I consider worse, Pass 2's Nintendo characters continueing to disappoint me or the fact you mispelled octopi
Plus, an Echo Pass of 4 characters could easily make a full Character Select Screen, both with stacked echoes and separated echoes (though that would exclude Classic Mode's CSS and the online's CSS). Plus, it could also fit the "CSS Limit" theory.
Octopuses works as a plural too! Or would you rather the fancy term Octopoda?
Aren’t there three empty stage spots after this pass finishes tho? One of them would have to come without a stage or even be individual DLC
Ah, there's a similar theory for stages, too? That sounds cool, though who's to say those three stages have to come with any of the bonus echoes? Maybe they could just be free standalones (it's been done in Smash 4)?
Octopoda sounds like a jamaican person saying octopusOctopuses works as a plural too! Or would you rather the fancy term Octopoda?
Yeah Octolings fly under the radar because they’re commonly thought of as Echo candidates instead of unique fighters when they could easily be either. Octolings and Tom Nook are some of the first parties that are a bit slept on imo.
Fixed.
Interesting theory, though is Ken unique enough to make Street Fighter qualify for that list?
For me? Not really. He does have his own combos but he clearly is a Ryu clone.
