Official DLC Character Discussion Thread - Read the new sticky/announcement

[Lord-Zero]

Sounds fair enough. Hopefully that would be good enough for a lot of people. Still though, a lot of fans are taking this suggestion box really seriously. The fanbase is going to be ticked off if a non popular candidate gets in over KKR or Wolf. Maybe if Sakurai gives an explanation as to why he chose X character over Y, the fanbase would calm down. I mean, I remember when Sakurai de confirmed chararacters like Chrom and Ridley; the fanbase was pretty upset, but they got over it. I can imagine the same thing happening to any big, popular character who might get deconfirmed in the future. :T

Which is why the final question of the ballot was very important and it's also worth mentioning that the vote may be shown publicly like the ballot site mentioned. Popularity is a factor to look at the character but that's not the only factor. Sakurai mentioned this when he chose curveball-choice Robin over the more popular Chrom.

 

[Dre89]

I don't play Splatoon, but if Inklings were DLC, how distinct could they look from the costumes? Those costumes looked exactly like actual Inklings in the screenshots.

 

[LIQUID12A]

I don't play Splatoon, but if Inklings were DLC, how distinct could they look from the costumes? Those costumes looked exactly like actual Inklings in the screenshots.

The eyes are the only difference I can think of. They were pretty much the only different thing from the actual Inklings.

 

[Burruni]

The eyes are the only difference I can think of. They were pretty much the only different thing from the actual Inklings.

Besides the picture quality, odd choice to (presumably) only use female inklings, and that odd render on the upper splash...

Someone tell me what's wrong with this, I am too tired to pinpoint it

 

[A Distant Demon]

Besides the picture quality, odd choice to (presumably) only use female inklings, and that odd render on the upper splash...

Someone tell me what's wrong with this, I am too tired to pinpoint it

character jumping on left side of bottom pic is inkling costume mii gunner (same exact jumping animation)

 

[The Light Music Club]

Plus is the splash text ever going over a character? It pases over some of her hair.

 

[SneakyLink]

Plus is the splash text ever going over a character? It pases over some of her hair.

I don't think the text interacts with a character at all (except as a shock to the duo).

 

[Burruni]

character jumping on left side of bottom pic is inkling costume mii gunner (same exact jumping animation)

Plus is the splash text ever going over a character? It pases over some of her hair.

This screamed fake
I woke up from a bad night's sleep, never play Miis, and don't have the costume so I wasn't in the right mindset to tear this to shreds

 

[Furret24]

Maybe it's because I hear this argument all the time, but I really hate it when people say "he's coming in the next game anyways lol". This isn't Call of Duty, their's 7-8 years in between every game. That's the bigger part of a decade.

Time between each Smash game:
64 -> Melee: 2 years and 6 months
Melee -> Brawl: 6 years and 4 months
Brawl -> 4: 6 years and 6 months

We've never had to wait longer than 6 1/2 years. Not quite 7-8 years.

Your point still stands nevertheless.

 

[Amberloo]

Besides the picture quality, odd choice to (presumably) only use female inklings, and that odd render on the upper splash...

To be fair, the female Inkling is the default (something people aren't used to). It's no different than them using male Robin in his splash page.

Anyway, yeah, definitely seems fake for reasons listed above.

 

[Burruni]

To be fair, the female Inkling is the default (something people aren't used to). It's no different than them using male Robin in his splash page.

Anyway, yeah, definitely seems fake for reasons listed above.

It's the usage of HER that was moreso the throw of.
"Inklings claim their turf" a) would be better suited to envelop the character, as WFT, Villager, nor Robin used gender pronouns, and b) is the exact tagline from Smashified's art

 

[Amberloo]

Ah, I didn't even realize that with the tagline. Much like you, I'm tired.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

I figured it was fake just by the horrible stance they had her in on the splash. A pretty basic rule by designers is to not cover parts of the face.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

2 things that screamed fake

1 the "her" part sakurai would do the male and female of the inklings

2 even though I knew it was the jump animation of the miI even if I diden't know the blur could disguise the mii as the inkling girl.


But do not discourage for supporters they still have a decent chance of being one of the winners.

 

[Wiley]

Don't mind this deleted post c:

 

[Yellowlord]

I just realized... Paper Jam hasn't been talked about since E3, along with Mario Tennis and some other games if I'm not mistaken. Now, based on what Nikki's been telling us about (Octolings becoming playable on the 16th with a direct planned for the 14th), I suspect some sort of announcement is among us today, if not tomorrow morning at the very latest. I am really hoping that information is true. From there, we'll just see what happens.

 

[The Light Music Club]

I just realized... Paper Jam hasn't been talked about since E3, along with Mario Tennis and some other games if I'm not mistaken. Now, based on what Nikki's been telling us about (Octolings becoming playable on the 16th with a direct planned for the 14th), I suspect some sort of announcement is among us today, if not tomorrow morning at the very latest. I am really hoping that information is true. From there, we'll just see what happens.

I'm fully expecting one today. Directs are usually announced the day before, and Wednesday seems like a good day to have it.

 

[ShinyRegice]

Well, yesterday I saw a "Inkling possibly leaked take with a grain of salt" post on the K. Rool thread and ever since I've tried to avoid most threads with possible elaboration about that to not be spoiled even more until a Direct announcement, in case it was the real deal that was related to the Wednesday 14th Direct rumor... well after deciding that we probably wouldn't get a Direct announcement today I've came back here and looked at those two "leaked" pictures. Well, that splash art is so bad and the Congratulations screen uses just a Mii dressed like an Inkling. Looks like I avoided nothing of risk after all.

I'd say those rumors are more likely than not to be anything after all at this point. If we don't get a Direct announcement before tomorrow when I wake up, I consider those rumors as dead and meaningless.

On the other hand, at least those rumors made me reconsider the chances of Inklings which I used to consider very low because they would potentially be a technical hell (because you now, the paint), but actually when I think about it there's a potential simple solution to deal with it while doing the Inklings justice by still giving them a turf war based moveset: to limit the amount of RAM the paint takes and thus prevent framerate drops, instead program them like puddles with fixed size. I'm not sure I can clearly explain it with words, so I'll instead use pictures:

Let's suppose the orange thing in the pic above is Inkling's paint. It would take a lot of the game's RAM if it must remember each smallest unit possible where's there's ink, isn't it? But now, let's take a look at this:

To save RAM, the game's memory only has to remember one single spot for each puddle before giving all the remaining work to the engines. This frees place in the RAM where every item location is stored (it only has to remember one spot rather than several dozens) and gives the physics and graphic engines less work to do by making them work on only one item. For example, in the second picture, those orange dots represent where the "ink puddle" items are stored in the game's memory, and in the first picture, how the physics and graphic engines interpret these dots.

To make sure the game may support those puddles without FPS drops, there would be a limit to them, for example, five by Inkling. Those puddles I suppose could definitely be able to be handled by the Wii U, maybe it'd be a little harder for the 3DS but I don't think it'd be undoable.

I'm not a computer expert, but this may sound like a logical explanation to me. Any other thought about this?

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Come on Nintendo, I know that you have some juicy reveals for us. I want my playable Octoling in Splatoon (plus a new Smash DLC newcomer)!

 

[Rockaphin]

I just realized... Paper Jam hasn't been talked about since E3, along with Mario Tennis and some other games if I'm not mistaken. Now, based on what Nikki's been telling us about (Octolings becoming playable on the 16th with a direct planned for the 14th), I suspect some sort of announcement is among us today, if not tomorrow morning at the very latest. I am really hoping that information is true. From there, we'll just see what happens.

The only new information we've gotten about Paper Jam was from the Japanese Amazon site.

Amazon beat Nintendo.

 

[Wolfie557]

It makes sense for a Direct to be coming even more now since Twilight Princess icon has been found in the Wii U eShop. Nintendo would reveal such things in a Direct, even if it's just a port (in which case I ain't buying) and not a HD remake.

This, and the recent Smash Bros & Splatoon Octoling rumors just make it seem to all link together. There's still time before an announcement for a Direct can be made.

If nothing shall happen today I'll be slightly disapointed, mostly because a Direct is really overdue and I need my dose of Smash news. ;.;

 

[Dastardly Ridleylash]

Honestly, I'm not expecting much if we get a Direct; remember that they're still kind of stumbling over Iwata's completely unexpected death, and I certainly don't think they're very willing to do Directs without him, at least not untill they can find somebody who can fill in for Iwata properly.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Honestly, I'm not expecting much if we get a Direct; remember that they're still kind of stumbling over Iwata's completely unexpected death, and I certainly don't think they're very willing to do Directs without him, at least not untill they can find somebody who can fill in for Iwata properly.

Well they have a new president. And they announced the directs will continue.

The last Japanese direct I saw, was not hosted by Iwata either. So, they have people that can do directs including the Japanese host, Bill, and Reggie.

 

[Halifax?]

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[The Light Music Club]

The strange thing is, it's almost 12 PM where I am. Nintendo usually tweets out something by now. Not just direct wise, but in general.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

The strange thing is, it's almost 12 PM where I am. Nintendo usually tweets out something by now. Not just direct wise, but in general.

I was thinking the same thing. Usually between 11 and 1 EST. We still have time for that though.

 

[Wolfie557]

The strange thing is, it's almost 12 PM where I am. Nintendo usually tweets out something by now. Not just direct wise, but in general.

It's 16:40 UK time. They usually announce it after 8pm from what I remember..

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Besides the picture quality, odd choice to (presumably) only use female inklings, and that odd render on the upper splash...

Someone tell me what's wrong with this, I am too tired to pinpoint it

Boy did I need a good laugh

 

[Danny Devito]

I personally would not be surpised if we did not get anything at all

 

[Yellowlord]

Well... Nintendo tweeted finally, and it's about some random game. Great. I guess that means no Direct. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they would of tweeted about that first.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Well... Nintendo tweeted finally, and it's about some random game. Great. I guess that means no Direct. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they would of tweeted about that first.

Not necessarily. They've tweeted about directs later in the day. One was 6 PM Est and another at 3 PM Est.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

Well... Nintendo tweeted finally, and it's about some random game. Great. I guess that means no Direct. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they would of tweeted about that first.

Pessimism at it's finest. Haha.

 

[Danny Devito]

Well... Nintendo tweeted finally, and it's about some random game. Great. I guess that means no Direct. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they would of tweeted about that first.

We're probably never getting a direct this year. Maybe next year. If we get a new direct soon I will eat my hat.

 

[Yellowlord]

Pessimism at it's finest. Haha.

Eh, yeah. Maybe I am being pessimist about that. But a lot of people, including me, are beginning to lose their patience. That's why I was so annoyed to see that as Nintendo's first post of the day. It's just not a good sign.

 

[pmilkosky]

We're probably never getting a direct this year. Maybe next year. If we get a new direct soon I will eat my hat.

And I'll eat my shoe. I'm feeling the same way lol.

 

[Danny Devito]

And I'll eat my shoe. I'm feeling the same way lol.

throw in another and you've got yourself some Sole-food!

 

[Pyra]

We're probably never getting a direct this year. Maybe next year. If we get a new direct soon I will eat my hat.

Because you said that they're gonna try to get a presentation out as soon as possible, \DIRECTLY/ to you.

 

[Wolfie557]

I actually think it's still way too early today for a Direct announcement. So I'm not worrying about anything yet.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I don't wish to make it look like I'm bagging on Captain Toad, but if you really think Nintendo would push him to be added eventually you have a little too much faith in him haha. I suppose it's possible, but nobody really fits the bill better than the Squids right now.

Look at my posts in general, and I am all about posting hope. It is a video game, it SHOULD be fun.


That said, we have had a number of clues as to what Nintendo thinks of Toad, lately.
Not only did a Japanese advertisement for Smash Bros feature captain Toad (saying something along the lines of wanting to join battle, Nintendo spokespeople have also adressed latly that they did not know Toad was popular (pointing out that, now they do).

Not to mention, Captain Toad is an entirely new IP (the game). The gameplay, extremely unique, offers a lot of variety to the Mario-verse, and is also a very specific character. Exploring the environment, with or without an interpretation of his unique jump-(dis)ability, he is also a mainstay to fans of Nintendo, old and new.

He may not be in the game, no... but as a widely recognized Mario ($$$) character, with a new series of his own, and with plenty of unique ideas for the character-- I certainly do not count him out of the game, especially if it were a pre-ballot character.

 

[NintenZ]

Besides the picture quality, odd choice to (presumably) only use female inklings, and that odd render on the upper splash...

Someone tell me what's wrong with this, I am too tired to pinpoint it

The font in the splash art blew it for me.