MoonlitIllusion
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remove that part and this is perfectshe's an echo but nobody cares
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remove that part and this is perfectshe's an echo but nobody cares
Kill it with fire.Dixie Kong assist trophy no K Rool again playable fighters Cranky and Funky Kong. I hear about the Dragon Quest rumor but I will be so mad if that rumor is real its fake.
If Dixie just manages to get Helicopter Spin as her Up B, I'll take her as a Diddy Echo. But she'll also need hair grabs.... So in that sense, no.So want to say a few things
A) I agree with the notion Dixie probably shouldn't be a Diddy Echo. But I've heard Diddy no longer uses his tail, which was always a red flag for me. I wonder if giving her a unique up special would be too big a change to label her an echo? Changing the peanut gun to a bubblegum gun should be feasible as shown by Dark Pit. And Dark Pit does have a unique final smash. Given the limited space of the roster and the likely reboot that will follow. An Echo might be the best deal if you want both Dixie and K Rool. Aside from Tail and Jetpack. Everything else Diddy does seems feasible for Dixie to do.
Diddy losing his tail attack changes everything in my eyes
Second thing trailer idea to reveal both Dixie and K Rool.
The story is told using the shadows from the shadow levels in modern DK. The idea is that it's constantly switching scenes in beat to the music, often showing more than one thing at once, think how 24 will show multiple things going on.
Dk, Diddy and Dixie are charging into a temple where K Rool has stolen their banana's. Dk and Diddy fall for a trapfloor and get captured. Dixie is saved by her hair. Dk and Diddy are seen tied up above some klaptraps snapping at them. Dixie is shown avoiding more traps, K Rool is taunting the Kong's until Dixie confronts K Rool. Finally the two are revealed in full colour. Dixie at the entrance to his lair and K Rool with the tied up Kongs behind him. Music builds up and BLAM!! Dixie twirls in!!! King K Rool gets Krammed in!! However before the two taglines can disappear, Dixie and K Rool notice something amiss. The taglines appeared over the wrong characters! To fix it, the two swap places while it's all paused. Everything gets dramatic again!!! But when things return to normal and the tagline disappear. K Rool is where Dixie was and Dixie is where K Rool was allowing for her to easily free DK and Diddy and the three run off, but not before DK bids a very dissapointed K Rool.
Cue gameplay of Dixie to the classic jungle theme with K Rool gameplay coming in when the theme hits it's ominous part.
Typing it I realised that it's missing other Nintendo characters, so maybe some more people can get captured and a few help out Dixie save them.
It's not just the tail attacks and Rocketbarrels that clash. The Dash Attack has to go too. In DKCs and Smash 4 onwards, DK rolls. Since his debut in Brawl, Diddy cartwheels. Dixie would have to pirouette as a Dash Attack to make her hair smack foes. Then you have the question of midair jump: does she jump like Diddy or like in Tropical Freeze? It'd function like Yoshi/Ness/Lucas's midair jump in that it's unique to her; then you gotta consider if she can slow her fallspeed at will or will she not make use of her hair like Peach does.So want to say a few things
A) I agree with the notion Dixie probably shouldn't be a Diddy Echo. But I've heard Diddy no longer uses his tail, which was always a red flag for me. I wonder if giving her a unique up special would be too big a change to label her an echo? Changing the peanut gun to a bubblegum gun should be feasible as shown by Dark Pit. And Dark Pit does have a unique final smash. Given the limited space of the roster and the likely reboot that will follow. An Echo might be the best deal if you want both Dixie and K Rool. Aside from Tail and Jetpack. Everything else Diddy does seems feasible for Dixie to do.
Diddy losing his tail attack changes everything in my eyes
Much obliged, I'm a supporter of just about any Kong.Welcome all! From the posts I've read it seems like MrGameguycolor , James Phillips , John Dylan Smith , KirbyWorshipper2465 and smashingDoug are supporters too but IIRC they didn't ask to be put on the list so I'll play it safe until proven otherwise.
I'm more of a lurker, but sure put me on the supporter list.Alright so I've got a handful of new supporters added:
Welcome all! From the posts I've read it seems like MrGameguycolor , James Phillips , John Dylan Smith , KirbyWorshipper2465 and smashingDoug are supporters too but IIRC they didn't ask to be put on the list so I'll play it safe until proven otherwise.
See I just can't see her being an echo of Diddy at all since nothing Diddy does is what Dixie does except her bubblegum gun. Her having rocketbarrels makes no sense when she was introduced with her own flying helicopter twirl. It would be a Ganondorf situation 100%.Like a lot of people have already said, if Dixie is implemented then she has to have few different attacks. I would think she would be a doctor Mario situation, but who knows. Sakurai could change the qualifications of an echo character to his pleasing. Dixie really is in a unique situation. She has an equal chance of being an echo, semi-echo and a unique fighter. I'll be happy with any of those, as long as she's playable.
I really wouldn't like her to be a full clone either, but you can't really deny that it's very much possible. Also, when I said an equal chance of being an echo, I meant with a changed dash attack and up b. Sakurai could still possibly consider her an echo, even after those changes. As for borrowing moves from DK, I think if you're going to change moves from diddy you might as well make them unique, although it could save a little time using DK's moves. Also, I have to admit I've only ever played Tropical Freeze, so there could be a lot of move set potential I just haven't realized.See I just can't see her being an echo of Diddy at all since nothing Diddy does is what Dixie does except her bubblegum gun. Her having rocketbarrels makes no sense when she was introduced with her own flying helicopter twirl. It would be a Ganondorf situation 100%.
If anything, if they did go a clone route with Dixie, I could see them borrowing from both Diddy and DK. Take Diddy's Side B and Neutral B and DK's Down B and Up B replacing hands with her ponytail. That is the only way I can see her being a clone but a full clone of Diddy just doesn't sit well with me.
DKC3 is so good.I support, DKC3 was one of my favorite games growing up and I think Dixie would be perfect for Smash.
Don't sweat it. I won't put you on the list but I see you as a supporter.While I do support Dixie... I just can’t be on no list.
*Grabs tinfoil hat*
granted they could change that as well, pretty sure we haven't seen it, but yeah I feel like people are looking into the jab too much, some moves change, maybe they simply thought diddy's jab would be a better and more useful move without the tail part.Another reason why Dixie wouldn't work as an Echo fighter is Diddy's ledge attack using his tail.
I'm fairly certain that Candy has no direct relation to anyone in the family, so it'd be Kong Girl Trio, if anything. Tiny and Dixie are related, yes, so I'd take this.Has anyone thought of some kind of Triple sister Final Smash with Tiny and Candy Kong? Or even just a Tiny team up attack? The official lore is that they're still all sisters right? I only question because I remember when the Koopalings were Bowser's kids, and Waluigi was Wario's brother...
It's already obvious that Diddy is getting a new Final Smash because transformation smashes are gone, although they'll probably stick with the dual popguns and jetpack motif in some way. Dixie doesn't have those, and shoehorning them in would be as bad as Falco preferring the air. Diddy himself is playable so she can't do a combo attack with him without having a Tink/Alfonso solution. So I feel like her sisters would do some kind of elaborate team attack with her, or at least Tiny if Candy seems unviable to contribute.
Yeah I'm imagining it to be kinda like mario's but it doesn't move, instead she creates various pink lines out of the tip of her guitar and she shoots music notes among those, it'd have a fairly small range but anybody caught in it would get beaten and blasted with said notesI'm almost certain Dixie would have her guitar as a FS. DK just lost his musical FS, and it would be perfect for a fast cinematic. Dixie has always been associated with her guitar, especially in Tropical Freeze.
Which it is. Because I rather have Diddy not use his tail at all if all he does with it is waggle. Sure his ledge attack is with his tail, but that's the only other move. I love Diddy's playstyle, and his moveset, but it has been a pet peeve for me ever since I got to play him in Brawl that he didn't use his tail a lot. That despite him being based a lot around DK64, where he used his tail in just about half his attacks. At the very least, they could've given him a proper attack with his tail for F Tilt.granted they could change that as well, pretty sure we haven't seen it, but yeah I feel like people are looking into the jab too much, some moves change, maybe they simply thought diddy's jab would be a better and more useful move without the tail part.
I believe we'll see a DKC Assist Trophy. Maybe we'll finally get to see Chunky in action!I'm becoming impatient Nintendo, I just wanna know if Dixie is a playable character in smash ultimate, there are so many leaks mentioning a k.rool and dixie reveal for july, hope it's true, can't wait no more.
Do you guys think we will get any DK assist trophies this time? Personally I think we won't because he missed the chance putting them in for the last two games.
If we don't get Dixie and k.rool both this time then....I don't know, I think it's just disrespectful from Sakurai. Seeing how every franchise has much more representation (even Mother and F-zero which are dead franchises by now), that's really sad somehow.
Looking at fire emblem, which is a series that Nintendo was pushing all time with new titles for some reason, even though it's sales weren't that good ,especially on gamecube and wii , and the fe franchise was about to get cancelled...then dk fans like us have to wonder if we get a new dk game in the next time.
Yes, it would be too big of a change and not make her an echo. At that point they could easily make more things unique for her (to at least semi-clone status, but I actually think her being unique would be more likely, but that's just my opinion since I see her much different than Diddy).A) I wonder if giving her a unique up special would be too big a change to label her an echo?
Yeah I can't remember where I thought this...maybe it was the godawful cartoon that implanted the idea in my head.I'm fairly certain that Candy has no direct relation to anyone in the family, so it'd be Kong Girl Trio, if anything. Tiny and Dixie are related, yes, so I'd take this.
Welcome to The Barrel!I support Dixie. DK, along with Metroid and Kirby, is one of the original Smash 64 series that are desperately in need of more characters. Metroid's gotten a newcomer (although I think at least one more should be added) and I think it's very likely the other 2 series will also get new reps.
I saw this video too and I have to say that I'm a bit worried now, because seeing how sakurai ignored the dk franchise in smash, maybe there are no DK newcomers again??Found a nice vid from Gamexplain about Sakurai, SSBU and leaks.
Thanks to the info in this I'm confident that most "leaks" that pop up are just BS hoaxes. If Sakurai's going the extra mile to make sure even Nintendo employees don't know what's going on until the moment it drops, then I doubt anything that these leaks are saying. Yea, they're taking shots in the dark and they'll be right on some things, but honestly obsessing over what's likely a troll getting off on tons of attention isn't healthy, let alone something I wanna spend time on.
Welcome to The Barrel!
Fortunately, there's no direct correlation between leaks and DK newcomers. A leak can be false and still have true information. Vergeben is a perfect example. The fake leaks have been including DK characters only because they're so popular and so likely, at least in the eyes of players. They've been feeding us stuff we want to believe, so that we'll believe. Doesn't mean DK won't get a newcomer because Sakurai is debunking them. K Rool is in the top 10 most wanted on five different speculation sites, and is number 1 in almost all of them. Dixie is in top 10 for Smashboards and I believe GameFAQs. It's not unknown how popular they are, and both fake leakers and Sakurai have probably taken notice. Separately, not as an intentional crackdown on disingenuous Nintendo employees.I saw this video too and I have to say that I'm a bit worried now, because seeing how sakurai ignored the dk franchise in smash, maybe there are no DK newcomers again??
I don't know, I mean I kinda knew that all those "leaks" are probably only predictions but still if you see dixie and k.rool mentioned in "leaks", you want to believe it's true
Sorry for the double post, but there was a discussion going on in the General thread about why you want your most wanted newcomer, and what they mean to you. This is what I posted, thought I'd share it here to spread the love and support. I'm 27 but not ashamed to admit that I'm a sucker for Dixie Kong (not in the crush way anymore, bestiality ain't my deal) due to my fond memories and respect for the DK series. Just thought I'd post that here for the other supporters to see.To answer Noipoi....
I'd say my most wanted newcomer is probably Dixie Kong. I don't know why but I've always enjoyed her character immensely. Ever since I was really young and had a crush on her when DKC2 came out.
I remember being horrible at the game but enjoying the first few levels and playing them over and over as Dixie. Odd to have a crush on a monkey, but the memory always stuck with me, and I love the original trilogy still. Great music, good level design, graphics that have aged amazingly well...and seeing as how she is among the original 3 most prominent Kongs, she has a deserving place in the roster.
It also partially comes from me liking Diddy too, but wanting to play a variant of his style with a character I like more. After Tropical Freeze, I fully embrace the girly Kong. Plus her support group is one of the best on the boards, with pleasant, genuine fans throughout (not saying the other boards dont have this) so lending her my number one vote feels overall better than any other character. Especially seeing how I haven't played the games that have most of the other viable newcomers minus Isaac (never finished it either) K Rool (prefer Dixie) and the Pokemon ones. I like Bandana Dee/Elma/Rex etc but I have yet to play the games they're in, so there's less of a personal attachment.
To put it another way, if any other characters made it in, I would want to try them out. But I probably wouldn't main them. There has to be some sentiment there, which is part of why I love Wolf, Shulk and Cloud. Good memories make a character more meaningful to play. And Dixie is that character among who is left. She's the one potential newcomer that I wouldn't just play with on and off, but would play seriously and often, just because.
In summary, I support Dixie, but at rooting for K Rool as well for his passionate fans. And if he gets in, but she doesn't, I'll accept it.
Sorry for the double post, but there was a discussion going on in the General thread about why you want your most wanted newcomer, and what they mean to you. This is what I posted, thought I'd share it here to spread the love and support. I'm 27 but not ashamed to admit that I'm a sucker for Dixie Kong (not in the crush way anymore, bestiality ain't my deal) due to my fond memories and respect for the DK series. Just thought I'd post that here for the other supporters to see.