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I think if Nintendo was willing to put K. Rool in Smash and thought of that as good promotion to invest in a new DKC with him in it as the antagonist again, than I could see Nintendo's main branch working on the DKC games from now on in house since DK's is one of Miyamoto's most important babies.
I mean, it could be good to add more creative to the game since they're very likely bringing K. Rool back now that he is in Smash. If they stay true to Rare's original vision of K. Rool, he will have a persona gimmick and whatever that gimmick is for the game will heavily influence the themes around that DKC title.
Hey, I understand the concern, but I think it's far too early to worry about this potential game not being successful. The Switch has made giants out of most of Nintendo's first party efforts, and I don't see DK being the exception here. Let's also not forget that the DK theme park is heavily DKC inspired, so no matter what direction the game might take, I think it's fairly safe to say the characters and world will be DKC inspired as well.They talked about dropping the Country name as if this game is a completely different beast a page or so back. This won't be DKC6.
The game will most likely be good. Excellent even. However, I don't see it being successful at all which will cause the series to stagnant once again. The series needs to either evolve in the 3D realm or they could play it safe with a DKC6. Both of those are proven success stories, and if they are trying to turn DK into a core franchise again then an experimental 2D DK game is absolutely not the way to do it.
I think Nintendo more than any other developer knows the importance of not messing up or changing the original formula and if they're going to make DKC big again, than I see them mainly sticking with the 2D formula since that has been the formula for every mainline DK title excluding DK64.They talked about dropping the Country name as if this game is a completely different beast a page or so back. This won't be DKC6.
The game will most likely be good. Excellent even. However, I don't see it being successful at all which will cause the series to stagnant once again. The series needs to either evolve in the 3D realm or they could play it safe with a DKC6. Both of those are proven success stories, and if they are trying to turn DK into a core franchise again then an experimental 2D DK game is absolutely not the way to do it.
.....mind if i quote you on my signature for the rest of the year until FP2 is done? This is spitting facts straighter than than an Arrow, and more people should read this masterpiece.I'm glad it was brought up, the memetic status of Donkey Kong has been intensified over the last few years with the HE meme and Expand Dong nonsense and on the Wii U page advertising some games back in 2014-ish, Nintendo indirectly referenced the latter meme with the Snomads front and center. I get that memes and in-jokes are supposed to be in good fun, but when you make it the basis of your work or IP, it can be detrimental. Bringing up Sonic again, starting with Colors, the script pushed for more silliness and gradually moved to embracing memes and self-aware humor relating to the seedier underside of the fandom (And hoo boy, seedy is an understatement). The writers for those games admit they had little knowledge on Sonic and did things the way they saw fit.
That is the biggest problem that a series can suffer from: People who don't know a thing about it and what made it great having a say in said series. This is why I hate where Dixie Kong is and Donkey Kong by extension. People who don't know anything about the series or games or the characters, but feel the need to say or dictate what should and shouldn't be for the series. I'll tie this into another point I didn't get to make last week: These same people are also the outsiders that Brawl allowed in with the inclusion of Snake and Sonic. You now have people who say that characters like Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, Toad and countless others are uninteresting and boring for a multitude of reasons and then you have characters like Captain Syrup, Takamaru, Sukapon, Mike Jones, Lip, any non-triforce trio Zelda rep or any Zelda rep period, Isaac, Black Shadow, Krystal, just to name a few as scraping the bottom of the barrel. Again, these people come in with little to no knowledge on the legacy series that made Nintendo and led to Smash's finalization telling the fans of those characters that they're wrong for wanting Nintendo characters in a Nintendo-based fighting game.
3rd parties are a frivolous poison that has infected Smash and this started as early as Brawl. Sonic the Hedgehog is self-explanatory, point blank. Solid Snake however, was a left-field choice and pure nepotism on Sakurai's end. Sonic only got in as a result of Snake appearing. They were even going to appear in Melee, which should tell you enough about Sakurai overall and how he sees Nintendo as a whole. Smash Four and Ultimate regulated a chunk of Nintendo's notable faces to the loser's corner while 3rd parties who have had little to do with Nintendo get to come in and enjoy the limelight. This is also why Everyone is Here! can't happen again, the more 3rd parties you bring in, the higher the licensing fees are. It almost didn't happen initially, you can bet it's a one-time thing, which makes the spirit and assist trophy hell more damning, especially the former. Still images aren't content nor are they a good substitute for what was a 3D model that could be shown in every angle. I don't like Sakurai's notion of giving everyone something. Sometimes, nothing is better than something. Bomberman is ****ed indefinitely. He won't get another chance. An assist and a costume with slightly more work put into it isn't gonna cut it for me personally, keyword. I personally do not accept that as a good thing. With being absent, you have the one-in-a-million shot of your favorite character getting in, Banjo-Kazooie being the shot that landed, and how fitting that they were the most well-received characters until Steve arrived and even then, Steve lacks the messy scenario that BK was in.
This statement from the DOJO in hindsight showcases my problem with assists.
"You may even see some that only the most dedicated fans will recognize, so you’ll have to look forward to them."
The most dedicated fans will likely want those characters to be playable. The fact that only the most dedicated fans will know them does them no favors. In Brawl, this could be a neat way to squeeze more characters in overall, but in hindsight once more, it's very damning to those characters. Was this the intent all along, to put lesser-known Nintendo characters in a regulated corner and push characters who are popular, marketable, characters that can advertise an upcoming game or characters that Sakurai likes personally and disguise them under a notion that they're a good thing because they simply appeared? Tinfoil hat, I know. But my point still stands. Smash Four onward did no favors to disprove this claim.
With an assist and a spirit, mainly an assist and costume, you're pretty much out of the race. You can pretend that you're playing as Isaac with his costume on the Mii Swordfighter, but it's not Isaac, it's just a husk of what could have been. You have a 1/59 chance of seeing Takamaru for ten seconds with an item that can be disabled and you can't even enjoy it due to having to worry about your opponent(s) or the stage hazards, and some assists can't be summoned in certain stages, lowering their chances even more of appearing. A spirit is worse; it's not the character you see, it's a vague reference to that character. The roster is big, but not big enough to properly represent the 1400+ characters that are present in that silly mode. You can only do the same gimmicks for so long until it gets tiresome. That said, at least a still image can be pushed aside and retitled. an assist had actual work put into it and appears to be a de-facto deconfirm, and a costume still needs a modeler and also appears as a consolation prize, no matter if it comes with a track or extra customization. An echo fighter is still a fighter, keyword that can still join the full-fledged fighters and stand aside them on the same plane.
I don't like compromises and I don't like consolation prizes. I don't like that assist trophies are putting big names and notable Nintendo faces in a corner that seldom gets visited. I hate that if you don't see it as a small step to a bigger prize, you're entitled or ungrateful. You are allowed to be disappointed as a customer who intends to pay for the product given. As a paying customer, I have my nods and gripes with Ultimate. My gripes are not because I'm ungrateful, my gripes come from my analysis as a customer who consumed Sakurai's product. I'm giving it a fair shake, rather than saying "GREAT GAME JAM-PACKED WITH TONS OF CONTENT 10/10". That isn't any better than saying "ISAAC AND SHADOW ARE ASSISTS, 0/10 **** GAME". The best part is Sakurai himself acknowledges and accepts that criticism is inevitable, whether he likes it or not and I take great pleasure in exercising that right. Games are a privilege. As long as a price-tag is attached to them, they will always be up for critique, because your money is a very precious resource that doesn't come easy and with today's games coming in at 65-75USD, it becomes more riskier to put your money into one game that may disappoint when you could apply that money to bills, necessities or even stocks.
I apologize for that rant, but this has bugged me since Smash Four in 2013. I'm frankly sick of people attacking me and those who dare not blindly accept what Sakurai presents and cries about how he works hard to give people a game. It's not a charity, it's a business. He intends to make money off it, so therefore he is not entitled be exempt from critique. Throwing a few bones also does not make him free from critique, it should be the standard. Keep throwing bones. Hell, why not the whole bird? Accepting scraps is also a compromise, one that should not be tolerated or humored. Just because you don't care about a character does not give you the right to dictate how important they are. There are people seriously humoring 3rd parties that have less notability than some D-list Nintendo faces simply because they aren't popular or mentioned to the extent that other more known 3rd parties are. See how screwy this whole ordeal is?
Short version: If you want Dixie Kong in Smash as a playable fighter, you have every right to feel that way and should not be attacked or shamed for doing so. Keep the fight going until Sakurai outright states she can't get in or the DLC for Ultimate comes to a close. That goes for every other Nintendo character that's supposedly at the bottom of the barrel. And not every 3rd party character that I like has to be in Smash Bros., personal example for five years now, Rayman.
The main issue is that we don't know which developer will do that, if any. Namco and Paon had a hit and miss record with their takes on the series, Retro is busy with Prime 4, and so far the Switch has mostly played catch-up in regards to porting various Wii U games as Ninty's divisions are slowly adjusting to it.
choose your fighter pic.twitter.com/2Py861t3yY
— maddie ★ マディ (@othatsraspberry) January 4, 2021
www.digitaltrends.com
Not to get all insider-y and prattle on about what my sources, but Nintendo's been wanting to get DK back in-house for a bit now, especially with many of the younger devs who have come up in recent years being fans of the Country series.
— DK Vine (@dkvine) January 4, 2021
This isn't Jungle Beat 2.0
— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) January 4, 2021
Don't give me hope.
Probably Chunky.
He's dead.
I would prefer for K. Rool to be the threatening goofy bad guy he was in Rare's games than be Dedede 2.0.
They're still working on Metroid Prime 4 which has been in development for 4 years now. They might not touch DKC again until they're finished with Prime 4.
Yeah I keep seeing people in that neogaf thread claim that DK will release in July or August and I keep thinking to myself "When has a DK game ever released then?" Every home console DK game (even Jungle Beat) besides Tropical Freeze has been released in November and been pushed as a holiday title. Tropical Freeze was originally suppose to launch in November 2013 alongside 3D World but Nintendo pulled a "New Horizons" and only delayed it because they needed something to fill a barren/empty Q1.
