Well, I've voted RR on my own accord and brought up the case on him initially. I've also justified myself for all my votes and pushed in ways I felt appropriate.
Okay. Scum can do that. Anyone can do that. It doesn't take a capable townie or scum to justify something, which is why I'm looking at it more than that.
Let's be honest here, this town is dead, I've said what I want to about RR, but it's not like I magically have more to add when RR himself isn't posting much and I think I've convinced a majority of the playerlist that RR is scum. Stale is a weird way to put it because I get the feeling you want me to continue pushing him when truthfully, IDK what I can add to him when I've stated why he's scum, he isn't doing anything to change opinions, and his lynch is on the table. Truthfully Soup, for post game, if you think it's a bad way to think about it or you think I could play more effectively from that situation, tips would help.
Yeah, I won't hold you to that. However, I will hold you to the account that this somehow is supposed to make me feel better and that I'm going to stop pushing you because you repeat yourself. "I did this." "I did that." Yeah. I've done a lot of things too and look at the **** I'm in. I guess my problem comes with that you are indeed doing things, but they're just not enough for me. There's a difference between doing something for a purpose, and doing something just for doing it. What I feel from your posts as of late is the former, because the sudden drop on RR doesn't really make sense to me, like you're clinging to it and somehow trying to make that point relevant to lynching me. How am I more priority than RR, and why is that suddenly you don't care about RR at all? How do you feel about your former read, Potassium, voting me? This is the things that don't make sense to me. To change your mind like that so soon either tells me you're the most indecisive townie I know, or you're just looking for a good place for your vote. The sudden changes bother the hell out of me. It's like you don't actually have a reason, and feel free to prove me wrong that you do.
At the time of voting you Soup, I already stated that IDC who dies between you and RR because I felt super sure about the scumteam. I think I explained pretty well the connection i see between you are RR, want me to explain it again? Regarding the eye opening thing, it's not really that, it's that your gambit scares me because I've explained that to me, that gambit being successful could be a GG win for scum. I'm going to push on someone for doing something that legit makes me scared thinking Scum could win the game if the plan is successful.
No. I don't. I don't need you to repeat things to me like I'm deaf or I'm not paying attention. I could just take your content as townie because you post a lot of words and you're trying oh so hard to look like this perfect townie who does no wrong, but I don't see it like that. I see something more, and If I looked at everyone like that, nobody would get lynched because Scum isn't supposed to try and be obvious. They want to be townie. They want look townie and do things town would do. The difference is, town wants to lynch scum. Where is your effort to lynch that scum? Where is your honest-to-god thought process to lynch these scum? I think about all you done and I don't see this. I see someone trying to skate by to get away with the least amount of effort possible, throwing a random vote here and there like a good townie would do. Instead of taking the initiative to push me and get me lynched, you sit here happy with your vote and happy with everything you've done. You've solved the mystery, and you just want the credit. Isn't it a damn shame that things don't work like that? Why do you only come back when I give you chase? What do you really care about? I don't see that incentive at all.
You're completely ignoring the context and that's ****ty of you. At that moment I was playing along with your claim of being town Census taker and you asking me who the 2 scum are. By playing along with that, we have a few conditions.
-You are town
-I am town
-There are 2 scum between RR, Known Mafia, and Potassium
Okay. If you were playing along, does that mean that's how you felt about it, or that's how you felt about with the fact that you were playing along with me. This doesn't say anything, it just says you were being cooperative at the time yet there's no insight why you thought like this. This is a problem.
I already had a list of reasons for RR scum.
So all that's left is between Known mafia and Potassium. Whoever is scum obviously knows the alignments of everyone, so I had to make 1 more assumption.
I don't understand. I don't get how this clears up anything. Contrast how you felt and how you feel now. Disregard the gambit, because I feel like you're playing around with it more than actually doing something with it. You're telling me all these things you had to consider and these things you've done, but what of it?
-Even without my knowledge of player meta, I do remember that Soup is considered one of the better players in DGames and probably the best player alive.
Potassium gave me the feeling that he wants you dead, from a scum perspective I would want the most threatening player dead too. The play matches up to something I think a scum player would do and while he could definitely be town and think you're scum, I didn't have anything to pick Known Mafia as RR's scummate. It's not a strong reasoning for Potassium scum even under all those conditions but it's more than what I have for Known Mafia.
You pose something I've considered looking into. What do you think of Potassium and his need to buddy me earlier on, least to say when he suggested your lynch? Does none of this matter? I feel like you're talking in gambit context. Stop it.
NOW, let's remember that was when I was playing along with your claim of being town census taker. Once you claim that to be a lie, we erase some conditions.
Scum no longer has to be between RR/ Known Mafia/ Potassium.
Soup is no longer a confirmed townie.
I don't have any reasoning to consider Potassium scum without those conditions.
That's it? It's just done like that? I don't get the reason pair something like that, because it isn't clear here. Something in your head said 'this makes sense to me as the team.' What was it? If you really did just go 'well I don't think Known Mafia is scum so yeah RR/Potassium I guess then I don't get it all. Why were you so quickr to believe me in the first place? You see the playing along thing I've been mentioning over and over? You're not doing a good job or proving it wrong. This doesn't make me feel better about you at all.
My logic did not go an extreme switch, the conditions under where we were operating drastically changed.
It was still a switch. Something in your head lead you to believe those conditions regardless of the gambit. You can't say if I gambited a cop guilty on someone, and you happened to believe and you were suddenly gun-ho on someone, that if I were to retract that read the purpose of that gambit and how you read him in that context meant nothing. That's what you're doing. You're tossing aside your own logic here. Why?
I do have to agree this feels too much like a newbie game...that reminds me, ever since I let some of the pressure slide from TBG, he's went completely to being inactive. Do I really have to pressure him nonstop just to get some ****ing content? =_=
I'm convinced that Masqeruin will never post and has no idea what's even going on in this game.
Such is every other person. I don't know, I don't think what you did was worth even a look or a retort. It's like you expected him to give a **** when what you had or what you were concerned about wasn't really damning.
Luckily for you, I'm not a push-over and I enjoy my games of mafia. I'm going to look at your cases on RR and the alike and see if anything holds weight.
