Diddy Kong Appreciation Thread: From Dinky to Diddy, From the Jungle to the Brawl.

[Gypsy Lee]

I wasn't being serious about those moves. I was just giving an example of how you could make a special moveset that doesn't have guitars, jet packs, and peanut pistols. Those were just a few things that came to mind.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

Diddy is NOT getting a ground pound; I can tell you that. Yoshi and Bowser already have it, and it is very likely King Dedede will have it, too.

ridley may have it like in metroid prime though he mabye could charge it in air

 

[Crazy Ace 01]

I like the idea of having his peanut guns as his B move. Fox, Falco, Link, Young Link, Mario, Luigi, Mewtwo, Samus, Pikachu, Pichu, and the Ice Climbers all had a projectile B move (I think I got them all). The Peanut Popguns would work just like Fox's laser; perhaps a little slower, but with knockback, like Falco. He could fire very fast in DK64 as I remember, but there was a max amount that could exist at any time.

 

[GreenKirby]

ridley may have it like in metroid prime though he mabye could charge it in air

Five Words: What are you talking about?

 

[the grim lizard]

I don't mind characters having projectiles, but they shouldn't all be the same kind of thing. I'm just not convinced that a peanut gun would be any different than a laser gun or something. Link's bomb/arrows/rang were very different from other projectiles, same with Peach's turnips, Mario's fireballs, Pika's thunderjolts, and ICs' ice blocks.

If he had a projectile that was completely different like these are from one another, I wouldn't care as much, but I'm still not convinced that it would be.

P.S., Doc, Yoshi, Ness, Zelda, Sheik, and G&W all had projectiles, too, but again, they played a lot differently than all of the other types of projectiles.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

Five Words: What are you talking about?

in metroid prime ridley pounds the ground when he losses his wings im just saying the charge part could be a extra effect

 

[GreenKirby]

But why are you mentioning it here and not the Ridley thread?

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

if you read my first one you see someone said something i was adding to list though u are right sorry

 

[Gypsy Lee]

how is it unimaginative though? most characters have their specials based off their games. i mean link and zelda both have a moveset based off of ONE game.

but we're trying to incorporate ALL games for diddy, but his specials has to make diddy unique, and that's what DK64 did, make each kong have something unique.

we don't mean to bash you man, how about you make a moveset then, based off of DK Country. you made a great one for ridley, so show us what you can do for diddy

EDIT: gypsy, if you do make a moveset, i don't care what you do for his specials, his Guitar HAS to be his Final

Hmmm.... Sure, I'll make one. It'll take awhile though, and I still have to finish the Ridley one. And I never got around to finishing the Leon Kennedy one either.

And, no, I won't use peanut guns or his guitar, I just cringe at the idea of him having those moves in Brawl. I might use the jet pack barrel thingy though... just not as his Up B.

 

[the grim lizard]

Don't have so many tail attacks. I swear, 70% of the attacks on the initial post moveset were tail attacks. >_<

 

[lanky_gunner]

I don't mind characters having projectiles, but they shouldn't all be the same kind of thing. I'm just not convinced that a peanut gun would be any different than a laser gun or something. Link's bomb/arrows/rang were very different from other projectiles, same with Peach's turnips, Mario's fireballs, Pika's thunderjolts, and ICs' ice blocks.

If he had a projectile that was completely different like these are from one another, I wouldn't care as much, but I'm still not convinced that it would be.

P.S., Doc, Yoshi, Ness, Zelda, Sheik, and G&W all had projectiles, too, but again, they played a lot differently than all of the other types of projectiles.

alright, here's something that can make it diffrent. what if Diddy had BOTH his jetpack and peanut guns for his B and ^B. however, diddy can't use the jetpack to hurt someone, but instead, like in DK64, he can use the peanut popguns to attack. or just give Diddy a diffrent B move and he can just use his popguns during his jetpack move. how bout that?

 

[bluebomber22]

alright, here's something that can make it diffrent. what if Diddy had BOTH his jetpack and peanut guns for his B and ^B. however, diddy can't use the jetpack to hurt someone, but instead, like in DK64, he can use the peanut popguns to attack. or just give Diddy a diffrent B move and he can just use his popguns during his jetpack move. how bout that?

Don't give in colbusman! as a fan of both DKC and DK64 I see no reason why his popguns/jet pack/ guitar or boombox couldn't be used in brawl. They are are traits that define "Diddy" as we know him, why not use them? just because other characters have guns is no reason diddy shouldn't have one

 

[Gypsy Lee]

...because they're really lame.

 

[bluebomber22]

very nice reason... i think i agree with you [/sarcasm]

 

[lanky_gunner]

i didn't say anything about getting rid of them. the popguns and jetpack are still there. i was just trying to make a cool gimmick for grim that changes the projectile attack for diddy like the other characters he stated

 

[bluebomber22]

i didn't say anything about getting rid of them. the popguns and jetpack are still there. i was just trying to make a cool gimmick for grim that changes the projectile attack for diddy like the other characters he stated

true, that would make them different from other projectiles. what do you suppose his B special would be then?

 

[lanky_gunner]

orange grenade, or if you take something from DKC...i can't think of any at the time.

see how hard it is to think of moves from DKC!!

 

[Gypsy Lee]

very nice reason... i think i agree with you [/sarcasm]

Sorry, but I just can't think of a better way to describe it. It just might be a hate I have for those moves, so whatever. I don't like what they did to DK in the first place (making him a mindless ape with sub par stats and a terrible moveset) and I don't want to see that happen to Diddy (peanut guns, guitar, jet pack... please). Might as well give Donkey Kong his coconut gun, his bongos, and a constant goofy expression on his face because it suits his personality.

 

[lanky_gunner]

Sorry, but I just can't think of a better way to describe it. It just might be a hate I have for those moves, so whatever. I don't like what they did to DK in the first place (making him a mindless ape with sub par stats and a terrible moveset) and I don't want to see that happen to Diddy (peanut guns, guitar, jet pack... please). Might as well give Donkey Kong his coconut gun, his bongos, and a constant goofy expression on his face because it suits his personality.

however it made all the kongs more unique for the player. i don't want DK to have is coconut gun (his bongos as a final, maybe) cause it would ruin the familiarity he's had since the original.

but jetpacks and popguns, for me, goes hand in hand with diddy. it's hard NOT to see those things without diddy equipped with them

 

[bluebomber22]

orange grenade, or if you take something from DKC...i can't think of any at the time.

see how hard it is to think of moves from DKC!!

i completely forgot about the orang grenades!!! those were so fun to nail those stupid beavers with!

Sorry, but I just can't think of a better way to describe it. It just might be a hate I have for those moves, so whatever. I don't like what they did to DK in the first place (making him a mindless ape with sub par stats and a terrible moveset) and I don't want to see that happen to Diddy (peanut guns, guitar, jet pack... please). Might as well give Donkey Kong his coconut gun, his bongos, and a constant goofy expression on his face because it suits his personality.

i understand your distaste for DK's image in melee. I HATED how he was in melee. I just think that the goofy type stuff (peanut guns, guitar, etc.) actually fits with diddy's personality. I mean DK is care free, but he's not completely moronic....hes not wario

 

[Gypsy Lee]

In DK64, each Kong was given one of five stereotypical personalities. Donkey Kong was the serious, but at times, laid back leader of the bunch. Diddy Kong was the cool, hip guy with a guitar and a jet pack that all the little kids like to play as. Tiny Kong was the girly girl with spunk, which all the girls would want to play as. Lanky Kong was the silly and wacky character that everyone loved but no one wanted to play as. And Chunky Kong was the big dumb brute. Each one was given a different personality with moves to match them so that the game would appeal to a larger audience. Diddy Kong was no longer the shy, yet jolly and energetic sidekick he was in Donkey Kong Country. He was given a stereotype and a role and some moves to match. When I think of Diddy, I think of the bashful little chimp seen in the early games and the TV show. Which is probably why I find the outgoing hipster personality that you guys support unappealing. It just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth every time I think about it.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

diddy would be good only with the personality he has nintendo like to keep things the same but will change slight factors on certian things so he may still be the little side kick or the class clown it will work either way.The side kick would make him boring though he would turn into another Dk but if he is his other type then you have a complete new set of move(though the moves of the sidekick would be new just punches and tail whacks)which what brawl is aiming towards every charecter will be different from another
(i think i know what im talking about here(i think))

 

[CM august]

Diddy Kong was no longer the shy, yet jolly and energetic sidekick he was in Donkey Kong Country. He was given a stereotype and a role and some moves to match. When I think of Diddy, I think of the bashful little chimp seen in the early games and the TV show. Which is probably why I find the outgoing hipster personality that you guys support unappealing. It just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth every time I think about it.

Well, I somewhat agree, but... I don't know. Whenever you beat a level in DKC2 he does that amusing little rap complete with boombox. Granted, that's meant to be taken as a joke. His antics in DK64 are basically that sort of thing at a greater level, but that game had a more exaggerated and jokey vibe to begin with. Still, he has changed a little since the first DKC. He isn't just a sidekick anymore, for one.

Incidentally, wouldn't Chunky be the most bashful one? If the player selects him in DK64 he gets nervous and asks them to pick Tiny instead.

 

[Kentalish]

how is diddy going to kill manbearpig without his guns im super duper serial... jk... Diddy with pistols and jetpack for brawl

 

[xianfeng]

I loved DK's look in Melee and in Brawl as the Melee model was made by Rare and the Brawl model is an updated version of that. Jungle Beat's model and Mario Football Charged's model for DK were horrendous.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

I loved DK's look in Melee and in Brawl as the Melee model was made by Rare and the Brawl model is an updated version of that. Jungle Beat's model and Mario Football Charged's model for DK were horrendous.

theres a thing how would diddy look like.All the other chars have been upgraded by 1 more step from there last game(take a look at DK or MARIO)he would have a newish look(he would still have his hat and top)one that look similar to DK

 

[PIMPSLAP]

He would probally be more animate and look realler they would just redue him as a whole he was in double dash soo...... yeah lol iono where i was going from there

 

[PIMPSLAP]

He would probally be more animate and look realler they would just redue him as a whole he was in double dash soo...... yeah lol iono where i was going from there

i edtited

 

[Rikka]

Diddy really seemed to ditch the shy thing in DKC2. Anyway you admitted your dislike of those moves is partly bias, so there's really no way to change your mind.

 

[the grim lizard]

DK doesn't have a bad moveset. Why do people insist this? With this mentality, Bowser, Zelda, and everyone who's not top tier along with Fox, Sheik and Marth have bad movesets. Having said that, DK can easily hold his own with the top tier characters. People would just rather play someone who's overpowered.

 

[PIMPSLAP]

I agree grim i acctually play at competive levels and i have won three tourny using dk against foxs and falcos... (i have no main i counter pick:") and look at KDJ if you don't believe me and grim.

 

[lanky_gunner]

i never really imply that DK has a bad moveset. but he does have the moveset because at the time DK64 hadn't come out yet. his moveset is great though, i love his down b.

but i guess you're right gypsy, i guess diffrent people grew up with diffrent things. i mean i played DKC, but i never had it and so i grew up with DK64 diddy, and that's the one i like most. but now i can play DKC through virtual console and see how diddy was in the original.

on a side not, wow xianfeng, you come back for one post and that's all you say? for someone who put so much effort into this thread, i'm dissapointed that you didn't contribute more

 

[Gypsy Lee]

i never really imply that DK has a bad moveset. but he does have the moveset because at the time DK64 hadn't come out yet. his moveset is great though, i love his down b.

but i guess you're right gypsy, i guess diffrent people grew up with diffrent things. i mean i played DKC, but i never had it and so i grew up with DK64 diddy, and that's the one i like most. but now i can play DKC through virtual console and see how diddy was in the original.

on a side not, wow xianfeng, you come back for one post and that's all you say? for someone who put so much effort into this thread, i'm dissapointed that you didn't contribute more

You should watch the TV show on YouTube, too. I know it has nothing to do with the games, but you'd be surprised by the difference in his personality between now and then.

 

[lanky_gunner]

i've seen the show, i used to watch a few when i was younger, but it didn't appeal to me. but now that i remember, diddy was the shy character in the show, always trailing behind dk

 

[Del Money]

so opposed to Dixie as a teammate, which is just as much a part of the DK series as anything else.

hmm is that so? well so is DK and Diddy tagteamed in DKC1 so wheres your opposition to DK solo? in fact i can make a non-peanuts and non-jetpack moveset now and will do after these next few quotes.

Diddy is NOT getting a ground pound; I can tell you that. Yoshi and Bowser already have it, and it is very likely King Dedede will have it, too.

pssh...like i care. first too many projectiles/shooters and now too many ground pounds? why dont you make me a moveset for Dedede then?

very nice reason... i think i agree with you [/sarcasm]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

i've seen the show, i used to watch a few when i was younger, but it didn't appeal to me. but now that i remember, diddy was the shy character in the show, always trailing behind dk

it was sometimes ok and usually awful. good graphics...cheezy lines and the DK voice actor sounded like one of the ninja turtles

Diddy Moveset:

A button moves are fairly generic or could be redefined easily though ill say that Diddy's running+A should be a sliding on the ground kick (maybe like Crash Bandicoot-style slide attack) and his neutral air should be a sex kick

B - chimpy charge (hold B, release to go)
up+B - tailspin (similar to Link's up+B). Diddy floats up spinning around with his tail out
forward+B - cartwheel (from DKC series and DK64 alike)
down+B - butt stomp

alternative down+B for people anal about the butt stomp - orange grenade drop (like samus kinda)

and there you have it...criticize me please

 

[lanky_gunner]

that works actually. the tailspin in 64 did boost him up in the air, so yeah i'm satisfied with it.

but it still stand by a jetpack and popgun moveset, with a guitar as a final, but that's what i want

 

[Del Money]

that works actually. the tailspin in 64 did boost him up in the air, so yeah i'm satisfied with it.

but it still stand by a jetpack and popgun moveset, with a guitar as a final, but that's what i want

yes the tailspin helped in DK64 but its not really a "special" attack like the jetpacks or peanut guns so i think it could work out just fine and if anyone has a complaint about that just realize that DK's forward aerial-A is the same as his aerial A attack is DK64 and keep that in mind before posting something potentially stupid.

in all honesty, i prefer the peanut guns and the jetpack too but i had to prove to these guys that its possible and that they cant just bash Diddy's movesets just because theyre so full of their dear buddy, Ridley. sure i support Ridley for brawl and yes i support Diddy more but when did i say something as meaningless as "der...Ridley cant be in because he has wings and MetaKnight and Pit are already in...too many wings so no Ridley". absolutely stupid. its not like im alpha n00b or anything. when i support my characters, and that includes Ridley, you better ****ing believe it that ill defend them.

i will be upset if Diddy and Dixie are a team, but not as upset as i would be if Didy is neglected at all. even still, Diddy has proved himself to be a great solo act over the years. Dixie wasnt in DK64 or Diddy Kong Racing. Dixie may have been in Power Tennis i dont remember. it would not surprise me if he wasnt solo but i feel he deserves to be him own character

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I support Diddy, just not his peanut guns, guitar, and jetpack...

 

[bluebomber22]

yes the tailspin helped in DK64 but its not really a "special" attack like the jetpacks or peanut guns so i think it could work out just fine and if anyone has a complaint about that just realize that DK's forward aerial-A is the same as his aerial A attack is DK64 and keep that in mind before posting something potentially stupid.

in all honesty, i prefer the peanut guns and the jetpack too but i had to prove to these guys that its possible and that they cant just bash Diddy's movesets just because theyre so full of their dear buddy, Ridley. sure i support Ridley for brawl and yes i support Diddy more but when did i say something as meaningless as "der...Ridley cant be in because he has wings and MetaKnight and Pit are already in...too many wings so no Ridley". absolutely stupid. its not like im alpha n00b or anything. when i support my characters, and that includes Ridley, you better ****ing believe it that ill defend them.

i will be upset if Diddy and Dixie are a team, but not as upset as i would be if Didy is neglected at all. even still, Diddy has proved himself to be a great solo act over the years. Dixie wasnt in DK64 or Diddy Kong Racing. Dixie may have been in Power Tennis i dont remember. it would not surprise me if he wasnt solo but i feel he deserves to be him own character

QFT, I agree 100% Del. Also Dixie is in DKR on the ds

 

[Gypsy Lee]

You guys are hypocritical douches. You keep bashing me for "coming over from the Ridley thread and bashing Diddy." Neither me or Grim said anything bad about him, or even anything to lead you guys to believe that we're anti-Diddy. We simply had a distaste for your ideas for a movset and stated why we didn't like it. Stop being such ***holes....