Diddy Kong Appreciation Thread: From Dinky to Diddy, From the Jungle to the Brawl.

[Del Money]

QFT, I agree 100% Del. Also Dixie is in DKR on the ds

oh well i was referring to DKR64. sigh i need a DS...

You guys are hypocritical douches. You keep bashing me for "coming over from the Ridley thread and bashing Diddy." Neither me or Grim said anything bad about him, or even anything to lead you guys to believe that we're anti-Diddy. We simply had a distaste for your ideas for a movset and stated why we didn't like it. Stop being such ***holes....

ok well:
1. use the term "hypocritical" in the appropriate context
2. unlike you...NONE of us bashed any Ridley movesets, so "hypocritical" doesnt even ****ing apply here
3. learn how to read...two posts ago of mine, i put up non-jetpack/non-peanuts/non-guitar moveset which you seemed to ignore completely
4. your feedback on that is greatly appreciated

 

[the grim lizard]

hmm is that so? well so is DK and Diddy tagteamed in DKC1 so wheres your opposition to DK solo? in fact i can make a non-peanuts and non-jetpack moveset now and will do after these next few quotes.

Off-topic: Dude, you got like 400-500 posts in a week!

Anyway...DK is already established, for one. I didn't say Diddy couldn't have a moveset by himself; I just said what I prefer.

pssh...like i care. first too many projectiles/shooters and now too many ground pounds? why dont you make me a moveset for Dedede then?

First, ground pounds are completely different from projectiles. As I said, almost every characters projectiles in Melee were completely different from one another. Ground pounds vary very little, and you can throw Kirby's Stone attack in there, too. Surely one can come up with something better than that for him. Trust me, he ain't getting a ground pound. On the note of projectiles, I just see the peanut gun being an aesthetically different laser. Every other projectile was different from the lasers, including Samus's missiles and charage shot, which were the next closest. I'm not convinced they would be. And anyway, I still don't like the idea of him with it. But at least if he does have it, I'd rather it be completely different from the other types of projectiles. It just seems that you guys are pretty uninspired with your movesets, that's all.

Also, Gypsy's already said he's creating a moveset and I'm really not interested. There are more interesting characters to try to develop movesets for.

3. learn how to read...two posts ago of mine, i put up non-jetpack/non-peanuts/non-guitar moveset which you seemed to ignore completely

People really seem to have a misconception about the term "a couple pages back." I checked the previous 10 pages, and I couldn't find it. >_<

 

[Del Money]

Off-topic: Dude, you got like 400-500 posts in a week!

internships in which the boss doesnt give you another project leads to virtually being paid to surf the web for 8 hours a day...so its kinda understandable from that point of view. plus i go hom..lift some weights and work out (3 times a week anyways), eat, play counter-strike, and then back to the boards again

First, ground pounds are completely different from projectiles. As I said, almost every characters projectiles in Melee were completely different from one another. Ground pounds vary very little, and you can throw Kirby's Stone attack in there, too. Surely one can come up with something better than that for him. Trust me, he ain't getting a ground pound.

ok well i have an alternative down+ that uses explosives but in more of a samus manner and not a bo-bomb manner.

On the note of projectiles, I just see the peanut gun being an aesthetically different laser. Every other projectile was different from the lasers, including Samus's missiles and charage shot, which were the next closest. I'm not convinced they would be. And anyway, I still don't like the idea of him with it. But at least if he does have it, I'd rather it be completely different from the other types of projectiles. It just seems that you guys are pretty uninspired with your movesets, that's all.

well the thing about projetiles is that they are as much of a gameplay technique as spikes, for instance. some characters have them and some dont. spikes may be considered differently because theyre an A-button move and are easily substituted with a drill kick move. but heres the thing, most characters B moves are either a projectile or a charged up attack...sometimes both. also, most of the clones use projectiles. if a couple of them are not returning, then i guess it make sense for other characters (new characters especially) to have projectiles in their place

Also, Gypsy's already said he's creating a moveset and I'm really not interested. There are more interesting characters to try to develop movesets for.

ive already made a non-jetbarrel/non-peanut moveset that neither you nor Gypsy have commented on. it may not be of much interest to you but since you both brought this moveset ordeal up, i figured your comments would be good/interesting to hear



People really seem to have a misconception about the term "a couple pages back." I checked the previous 10 pages, and I couldn't find it. >_<[/QUOTE]

 

[the grim lizard]

well the thing about projetiles is that they are as much of a gameplay technique as spikes, for instance. some characters have them and some dont. spikes may be considered differently because theyre an A-button move and are easily substituted with a drill kick move. but heres the thing, most characters B moves are either a projectile or a charged up attack...sometimes both. also, most of the clones use projectiles. if a couple of them are not returning, then i guess it make sense for other characters (new characters especially) to have projectiles in their place
ive already made a non-jetbarrel/non-peanut moveset that neither you nor Gypsy have commented on. it may not be of much interest to you but since you both brought this moveset ordeal up, i figured your comments would be good/interesting to hear

I have no problem with projectiles; I just didn't like the peanut gun. Projectiles are good and necessary; I just think they should be different from one another. I'm not convince that the peanut gun would be. Feel free to prove me otherwise, though.

On the topic of this other moveset...

People really seem to have a misconception about the term "a couple pages back." I checked the previous 10 pages, and I couldn't find it. >_<

I couldn't find it.

 

[bluebomber22]

Diddy Moveset:

A button moves are fairly generic or could be redefined easily though ill say that Diddy's running+A should be a sliding on the ground kick (maybe like Crash Bandicoot-style slide attack) and his neutral air should be a sex kick

B - chimpy charge (hold B, release to go)
up+B - tailspin (similar to Link's up+B). Diddy floats up spinning around with his tail out
forward+B - cartwheel (from DKC series and DK64 alike)
down+B - butt stomp

alternative down+B for people anal about the butt stomp - orange grenade drop (like samus kinda)

and there you have it...criticize me please

here you go Grim , it was on page 218

 

[the grim lizard]

here you go Grim , it was on page 218

lol, that's not a moveset. That's four moves.

But, alright.

 

[Del Money]

here you go Grim , it was on page 218

yet again...Bluebomber22 FTW. now theres the moveset, quoted in the post right above this post. the non-jetbarrel/non-peanut gun version...

 

[the grim lizard]

Meh...I don't really care. Whatever they do they do. I think some of the ideas for both might be good, but honestly have no idea what they will implement for specials.

I'm more interesting in the A-moves anyway. The only one I saw was like a 95% tail attack moveset that was on the front page. That would be...really boring. Tail attacks are good, but...not that many.

 

[Del Money]

Meh...I don't really care. Whatever they do they do. I think some of the ideas for both might be good, but honestly have no idea what they will implement for specials.

for specials i wouldve used the guitar attack from DK64 but Gypsy was anti-that as well so i guess the boombox from DKC series would work...ccant really think pf anything else though

I'm more interesting in the A-moves anyway. The only one I saw was like a 95% tail attack moveset that was on the front page. That would be...really boring. Tail attacks are good, but...not that many.

ok thats my bad, i thought you cared more about the B attacks. A-button attacks are more generic so i figured it wasnt as ig of a deal. as for the tail attacks...too many of those IS stupid. the only attacks i would have for the tail (apart from up+B) is the standard A button combo and the down tilt A. all other A attacks that be made up using the physics/style mixture of pikachu, mario, and DK i guess

 

[xianfeng]

theres a thing how would diddy look like.All the other chars have been upgraded by 1 more step from there last game(take a look at DK or MARIO)he would have a newish look(he would still have his hat and top)one that look similar to DK

How about his Jungle Climber Look?

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

How about his Jungle Climber Look?

thats a really good pic mabye some more detail and thatll be diddy kong

 

[Gypsy Lee]

oh well i was referring to DKR64. sigh i need a DS...
ok well:
1. use the term "hypocritical" in the appropriate context
2. unlike you...NONE of us bashed any Ridley movesets, so "hypocritical" doesnt even ****ing apply here
3. learn how to read...two posts ago of mine, i put up non-jetpack/non-peanuts/non-guitar moveset which you seemed to ignore completely
4. your feedback on that is greatly appreciated

I wrote that at 1:00 in the morning on my Wii, so I apologize for my bad spelling/grammar/misuse of words/etc.

I never "bashed" anything, I just said I didn't like it, and even gave reasons why I didn't like it. Can't I like and support Diddy, but not like the exact same thing you guys do without being basically made fun of? That's what you and Bluebomber have been doing since I posted here. And what the hell does Ridley have to do with this? Why do you guys keep bringing that up? Feel free to "bash" a Ridley moveset, I'll respect your opinion and not be a d**k to you for not agreeing with it...

What does that have to do with anything? I'm mad/was mad because you were making fun of me, not because I didn't like the moveset... And yes, I did see your moveset, but I just didn't acknowledge it because there was nothing to say about it. Good job? You posted four moves that didn't use a guitar, jetpack, or peanut guns and I'm supposed to leave now? I already admitted that my reasons for disliking those things were partly biased, so stop beating a dead horse. You learn how to read ***hole.

And there you go. Can I play in your reindeer games, even if it's just sitting in the corner and playing solitaire by myself? I disagree with you guys on one thing and I get shunned? Your feedback on that is greatly appreciated.

 

[SmashChu]

How about his Jungle Climber Look?

Yeah, that does look like how he'd look. Change the coloring a bit and add some fur detail and you've got it.

 

[mastersmash]

ye i can't believe u came up w/ all that stuff, lol, u must be a BIG diddy kong fan! but it would be a nice addition...IMO

 

[lanky_gunner]

How about his Jungle Climber Look?

most likely. but he needs his blue eyes. he seems blank without them

 

[Del Money]

They are are traits that define "Diddy" as we know him, why not use them? just because other characters have guns is no reason diddy shouldn't have one

...because they're really lame.

so thats not bashing is it? calling something lame sounds like a ****ing compliment to me...perhaps i should be the one learning how to read...guess youre right again Gypsy

What does that have to do with anything? I'm mad/was mad because you were making fun of me, not because I didn't like the moveset...

no one was making fun of you so stop trying to guilt trip me for something i didnt ****ing do

And yes, I did see your moveset, but I just didn't acknowledge it because there was nothing to say about it. Good job? You posted four moves that didn't use a guitar, jetpack, or peanut guns and I'm supposed to leave now?

first off, i mentioned A moves there so stop telling ME to learn how to read and take your own advice instead of CONVENIENTLY skipping over parts at your own discretion. like i told Grim Lizard...the A-moves are generic/arbritary...in other words they can be made up. i also stated that Diddy's standard A combo could be the tail slap from DK64 and the down tilt can be a tail sweep. four moves i posted in greater detail were B button attacks...the only ones THAT ACTUALLY MATTER with regards to special attacks. what would going into detail about the A-button attack have done? remind me where a projectile was EVER an A-button attack...exactly you cant. Diddy would most likely have a physique similar to a cross between Pkachu, Mario, and DK. how many melee characters have a sex kick? most do. can Diddy have one as well? why the hell not. oh and heres the moveset again just for viewing pleasure

Diddy Moveset:

A button moves are fairly generic or could be redefined easily though ill say that Diddy's running+A should be a sliding on the ground kick (maybe like Crash Bandicoot-style slide attack) and his neutral air should be a sex kick

B - chimpy charge (hold B, release to go)
up+B - tailspin (similar to Link's up+B). Diddy floats up spinning around with his tail out
forward+B - cartwheel (from DKC series and DK64 alike)
down+B - butt stomp

alternative down+B for people anal about the butt stomp - orange grenade drop (like samus kinda)

and there you have it...criticize me please

so go ahead again and tell me i didnt mention A-button moves at all...

And there you go. Can I play in your reindeer games, even if it's just sitting in the corner and playing solitaire by myself?

for your information, im a college athlete and have an internship this summer...so dont try and down-play me like im inferior to you ever again. i really dont know what your problem is.

I disagree with you guys on one thing and I get shunned? Your feedback on that is greatly appreciated.

theres my feedback. is your choice whatever the hell you wanna do with it

 

[Gypsy Lee]

in all honesty, i prefer the peanut guns and the jetpack too but i had to prove to these guys that its possible and that they cant just bash Diddy's movesets just because theyre so full of their dear buddy, Ridley. sure i support Ridley for brawl and yes i support Diddy more but when did i say something as meaningless as "der...Ridley cant be in because he has wings and MetaKnight and Pit are already in...too many wings so no Ridley". absolutely stupid. its not like im alpha n00b or anything. when i support my characters, and that includes Ridley, you better ****ing believe it that ill defend them.

Apparently I was taking that the wrong way, that wasn't making fun of me at all.....

I give up then, Del Money. Sorry to ever voice my opinion. If you want to hate me for disagreeing with you, then whatever. You seem to think I hate Diddy, when I don't. I simply do not like the idea of peanut pistols and guitars, and I admit, I was a *** about it. But why must you and bomberman be such jerks, and act like we're a bunch of newbs or something? And you say that I have a problem, which I don't. And now, you're even getting to personal insults. Can I support Diddy, but not those few moves that I hate without getting flamed, if I'm a good kid and play nice?

And stop mentioning how great you are at life, because as far as anybody here's concerned, you just another faceless person behind an avatar and a username. I could say I'm the president of world, part time super hero, and the inventor of video games, but does that really matter? No, it just makes you sound like a douche. And nobody likes a douche.

Since we're both starting to get away from the original topic, I don't know what else to say but simply forgive and forget.

 

[Del Money]

@Gypsy Lee
1. i said you hated Diddy's moveset and i posted a new one for your commentary which you still havent given. if it came off as mockery towards you then i apologize and im glad you can admit being an *** and i know that i was one as well.
2. im not mentioning how great i am at life as you want to call it. i dont care if you want to believe me or not even though i can prove every word i said and it would still be a waste of time and get us nowhere. it just seems really dooshbag for YET ANOTHER faceless person behind a username and an avatar to tell ME that i sit in a corner playing solitare in my free time...and nobody likes a dooshbag. if some random person told you that you had no life, i doubt you would take it either.
3. i wanna put this stupid war behind me because none of us are alpha n00b and none of us are ignorant
4. i wasnt been sarcastic or peckerhead-ish when i said your feedback would be greatly appreciated...i really meant it. believe me, it was a semi-difficult challenge to make a non-peanut/non-guitar/non-jetbarrel moveset and so to get back on-topic, i would like your input with regards to those modifications to Diddy's B-button moveset.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I never said that you had no life. I think you mis read my post. I asked if I could participate in the Diddy supportification, even if everyone else hates me. >_>

I like your moveset I guess. I didn't find it difficult to think of other moves though. I listed a quick B moveset off of the top of my head that didn't have the pistols and such, and it took about thirty seconds of thought. But what you said basically proves Grim's and my point. A moveset with peanut pistols, jet packs, guitars and grenades is unoriginal, and takes about an ounce of thought.

 

[the grim lizard]

first off, i mentioned A moves there so stop telling ME to learn how to read and take your own advice instead of CONVENIENTLY skipping over parts at your own discretion. like i told Grim Lizard...the A-moves are generic/arbritary...in other words they can be made up. i also stated that Diddy's standard A combo could be the tail slap from DK64 and the down tilt can be a tail sweep. four moves i posted in greater detail were B button attacks...the only ones THAT ACTUALLY MATTER with regards to special attacks. what would going into detail about the A-button

I have to disagree with you on this point. To some degree, yes, A-moves are generic as many people have the same types of moves, but far and away this is not the case. I don't mean to drag points from other threads into here, but I'll just briefly mention that I think that this is sort of the mentality you have with Bomberman, too. It seem to me that you kind of think that if you can come up with a decent B-set for a character, than he's good to go because A-moves are just generic and can be applied to just anyone.

I think that a set of A-moves does a better job and defining a character than the special moves. Take a look at Sheik for example. While her specials do imply that she is some type of ninja, they continue on into her A-moves. DK has far different A-moves than say Peach or Captain Falcon or Link. The A-moves reflect what type of "person" the character is just as well, if not more, than the specials.

I guess my point is that while B-moves do a good job in summarizing a character, they in no way are close to an exhausted representation of the character being discussed. If someone just glosses over them as "generic" then that person has not fully identified the type of character that that character will be.

 

[Del Money]

ok well the only part that gave me trouble was the down+B but thats only because Grim said no ground slam/pound type of attacks (which i kinda ignored anyways). but apart fro mthat, the moveset went smooth. probably shouldve described the down+B issue as my only problem earlier.

on the note of Diddy and Dixie, im against it primarily because of HOW the ICs actually play. Nana and Popo are basically clones of each other. they have the exact same moves and such. and Nana takes the lead. put Diddy in the lead of Dixie or the other way around is what i dont like. also making Diddy and Dixie have the same moveset would be quite (yes im gonna use that word again...) ignorant of Sakurai just because he would be completely ignoring even characters signature DKC-series moves (i.e. Diddy's cartwheel and Dixie's ponytail). to throw away the moves that each character is best known for just to satisfy Sakurai's desire for yet another IC-type duo would be disastrous not to just the fans but it would be a slap in the face to the series as a whole as well.

 

[the grim lizard]

I understand that, but who's to say he couldn't pair them up, have the option to switch places, and they would each have different B-moves or something, while having the same A-move. You never know...

 

[lanky_gunner]

i'm still against it. i see more potential with diddy solo than with dixie. dixie as an AT i won't mind, but not as a duo

 

[Gypsy Lee]

The Diddy and Dixie duo has more potential for a moveset, and would offer more to the gameplay then Diddy solo ever could.

However, Diddy has earned the right to appear by himself. He has his own games, several cameos, and ditched Dixie along time ago.

So, I say if Sakurai can make a moveset fun and original enough (that means no peanut guns and orange grenades), then Diddy should definitely be in solo, rather than paired with Dixie.

That's where I stand.

 

[lanky_gunner]

i think a duo gives less potential for a unique moveset, and instead gives the characters the same moves. with the case of dixie and diddy, moves that either of them haven't done ever.

that's where i stand

 

[Del Money]

I have to disagree with you on this point. To some degree, yes, A-moves are generic as many people have the same types of moves, but far and away this is not the case. I don't mean to drag points from other threads into here, but I'll just briefly mention that I think that this is sort of the mentality you have with Bomberman, too. It seem to me that you kind of think that if you can come up with a decent B-set for a character, than he's good to go because A-moves are just generic and can be applied to just anyone.

I think that a set of A-moves does a better job and defining a character than the special moves. Take a look at Sheik for example. While her specials do imply that she is some type of ninja, they continue on into her A-moves. DK has far different A-moves than say Peach or Captain Falcon or Link. The A-moves reflect what type of "person" the character is just as well, if not more, than the specials.

I guess my point is that while B-moves do a good job in summarizing a character, they in no way are close to an exhausted representation of the character being discussed. If someone just glosses over them as "generic" then that person has not fully identified the type of character that that character will be.

ok i see your point. and i realize "generic" was the wrong choice of words. i meant more of arbitrary....as if theres many different options for attack possibilities (and i know thats true because many A-button moves from SSB64 are different from the equivalent A-button move for melee (DKs up-aerial is one of numerous examples). and just to show that i know what im talking about and that im not lazy, ill make a list of A moves for Diddy on my next post on this thread

I understand that, but who's to say he couldn't pair them up, have the option to switch places, and they would each have different B-moves or something, while having the same A-move. You never know...

switching places would essentially be like choosing whichever character gets to die and have it not count towards your lives unless they both die (which is obviously not the case with ICs). for every 1 Diddy/Dixie life, itll actually be like the played really has 2 lives.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

i think a duo gives less potential for a unique moveset, and instead gives the characters the same moves. with the case of dixie and diddy, moves that either of them haven't done ever.

that's where i stand

You're not thinking outside the box then Colbusman. If I were to mentioned the idea of the Ice Climbers to you before Melee came out, you would probably laugh. The duo wouldn't have to be just like the Ice Climbers, rather, it could be more teamwork oriented instead of just having two people do the same thing.

And I'm just curious to know why everyone here thinks that a Diddy Kong moveset with barrels and popguns would be the greatest thing to ever grace Smash. I already said why it doesn't make his character, which seems to be the only argument you guys have in your case.

 

[Del Money]

so heres the A moves

A - 1. tail smack
2. a jab

AA - 1. two tail smacks
2. two jabs

AAA - 1. tail smacks followed by a spinning tail attack
2. jabs followed by a mule kick (or a mario-style kick instead)

forward tilt-A - 1. headjab (kinda like pikachu's)
2. simple kick or a move stetches punch/slap

up tilt-A - 1. rhino-like head movement
2. uses tail to knock upward

down tilt-A - 1. tail sweep
2. low kick (like Ness's from SSB64)

running-A - 1. slide (Crash Bandicoot-style)
2. running head thrust
3. running kick similar to DK's with less lag

up-smash-A - 1. stands on hand and kicks upward
2. bicycle kick (fox, pikachu, kirby, etc.)

side-smash A - 1. diving kick (fox's side-smash from ssb64)
2. Diddy puts his hands together and swings them forward
3. headram (yoshi's side-smash)

down-smash A - 1. break-dance kick (mario, pikachu, etc)
2. DK's down-smash from ssb64

neutral-aerial A - 1. sex kick (mario, link, sheik, fox, yoshi, etc.)
2. some sort of spinning punch or kick (similar physics as DK, ness, marth)

up-aerial A - 1. DKs up-aerial from SSB64 (hand slap in air like jiggs too now that i think of it)
2. tail flp (like yoshi)

forward-aerial A - 1. forward drill punch or kick
2. forward tail swipe
3. typical laided-out kick (mario froim ssb64)

back-aerial A - 1. back kick (like at least 70% of the caharacters)
2. back tail stroke (like mewtwo)
3. back fist (like another significant percentage of the characters)

down-aerial A - spike or drill kick (use your imagination)

 

[Dynamism]

For A moves, I think he'd use his tail more.
Like his Nair would be a spin like Pickachu's and his tail wuld flow around him giving him a wider radius but it wouldn't be as strong. And when he does that Down Smash like DK in ssb64, his tail follows and creates more range then too....ect.

 

[Del Money]

For A moves, I think he'd use his tail more.

i would think that too but i purposely reduced tail attack because of Grim's preferences. i prefer to adhere to the specs of debaters cuz it usually helps me think more realistically. so even though we've been arguing...thank you Grim Lizard and Gypsy Lee

 

[the grim lizard]

Look, I just like to investigate possibilities and see what could happen or what might happen. At the end of the day, none of our ideas or movesets will reach Nintendo, but the whole point is to give us an idea of what the character could be like.

All that to say...on this whole duo all idea, all I have to say is this:

DKC is underrepped in Smash. We know this for a fact. And I'm sure Sakurai wouldn't mind changing that. Diddy was requested almost as much as Dedede, tying for second with a few other characters for top requested. He was also heavily requested for Melee, but left out for whatever reasons there may be. However, when Sakurai was presented with the idea for a Diddy/Dixie duo on his poll, he went crazy: he really liked it!

 

[Gypsy Lee]

He didn't mean no tail attacks, lol. It's just that the one in the first post was nearly all tail attacks. Grim was simply asking you guys to mix it up a bit, not abandon the move all together.

It's still pretty nice though. I'm surprised that you didn't add his cartwheel as his dash attack. That's like his signature move. Diddy having a sex kick is kind of pushing it, because his legs are so short. Maybe he could spin (similar to the Ice Climbers) and whip around his tail instead..... just a thought though. I'd expect Diddy to have a much more acrobatic moveset, seeing how he's a chimp and all.

I'll stop "bashing" on your moveset now. I'm making my own, so you'll get your revenge soon enough.

 

[Del Money]

@Grim Lizard
1. i still havent seen Sakurai's poll and have no idea when or how everyone else got to see it
2. did Sakurai jump at the idea of having more ICs-like duo characters or specifically Diddy/Dixie because if the 2nd one is true then...Diddy is pretty much in and thats good friggin news

@Gypsy Lee
i took out the cartwheel because i thought it would make a better B attack in my B-button movset. as for the sex kick, youre right about the short legs thing and in fact it pisses me the hell off that yoshi had one when his legs are short as hell too. but basically is moveset was just to show a variety of options available for diddy's solo moveset.

 

[the grim lizard]

The second one. He went crazy for the idea of Dixie with Diddy.

 

[Del Money]

The second one. He went crazy for the idea of Dixie with Diddy.

hmm...well i wish i had known this sooner. i wouldnt have waste my time supporting Diddy as a solo act for brawl for so long. might as well close this thread now since obviously more fans want Diddy solo than duo but Sakurai would prefer to dumb down one of the most underrated nintendo franchise characters by essentially making him 1/2 of a character. this sucks...i quit this thread

 

[CM august]

Diddy having a sex kick is kind of pushing it, because his legs are so short.

I'm not so sure. The reason his legs seem so short is because he keeps them folded. When they're stretched out, such as hanging from a horizontal rope in DKC2, they look much longer. In fact, most of the Kongs are much taller than they appear.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I was just saying that it wouldn't look right. No need to get all technical.

 

[CM august]

Still, if he somehow ended up with a sex kick, it could work. Just keeping our options open, is all.

 

[lanky_gunner]

You're not thinking outside the box then Colbusman. If I were to mentioned the idea of the Ice Climbers to you before Melee came out, you would probably laugh. The duo wouldn't have to be just like the Ice Climbers, rather, it could be more teamwork oriented instead of just having two people do the same thing.

And I'm just curious to know why everyone here thinks that a Diddy Kong moveset with barrels and popguns would be the greatest thing to ever grace Smash. I already said why it doesn't make his character, which seems to be the only argument you guys have in your case.

i am thinking outside the box. the ice climbers duo thing was a good idea, and it WORKED. but diddy is a character that, for me, doesn't work well if in a duo. you're limited in a duo, cause you have to take in account "What can he AND she do", but solo you can give him attributes that work for him alone than with a partner

 

[the grim lizard]

um, colbusman? We call that thinking inside the box... >_>