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Diddy Kong Appreciation Thread: From Dinky to Diddy, From the Jungle to the Brawl.
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GreenKirby
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Even if the Diddy/Dixie team is happening, that doesn't mean Diddy will not use his popguns. Besides, the guns doesn't fire actual bullets. Just peanuts.
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what makes you positive diddy won't have his guns?
diddy easily can get his A moves from the country series, but those games don't shine well in the specials departments. however, DK64 had every character getting something unique for them, and for diddy it was his peanut popguns, jetpack, chimpy charge, and simian spring. easily 4 moves that can be incorporated into his specials.
and it's not a good argument to say you're POSITIVE or this doesn't fit, cause smash has always been like that, and we really don't know at this point what will happen
diddy easily can get his A moves from the country series, but those games don't shine well in the specials departments. however, DK64 had every character getting something unique for them, and for diddy it was his peanut popguns, jetpack, chimpy charge, and simian spring. easily 4 moves that can be incorporated into his specials.
and it's not a good argument to say you're POSITIVE or this doesn't fit, cause smash has always been like that, and we really don't know at this point what will happen
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Ice Climbers are probably coming back, at least I would hope so.
Anyways, Diddy's peanut poppers are not the same as real guns, as they are just wooden popguns. If you are trying to say it conflicts with his image, I would say that I would disagree.
Anyways, Diddy's peanut poppers are not the same as real guns, as they are just wooden popguns. If you are trying to say it conflicts with his image, I would say that I would disagree.
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
What? Do you think people don't use them? *cough*ChuDat*Cough* Sure, they haven't been confirmed, but neither has C. Falcon, Ness, Luigi, Peach, ect., ect., ect.
lmao doesnt mean ANYTHING toad is in more games than that but I bet he wont be a brawl character.....
they are GUNSSSSSSSSSS unless they replace them with some banana lookin things that happen to fire peanuts somehow then yea MAYBEgreenkirby said:
I say diddy/dixie cuz new scrolling stage ala IC in melee... and diddy/dixie are a notorious team working well together
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Side scrolling stages = Doubles, now? And Diddy and Dixie only worked together in one game. Same as IC's I grant you, but those two never had solo careers, something Diddy has had.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
You're still not making sense about the gun thing because Fox's and Falco'sguns are more realistic than Diddy's. His is just wooden.
And here's a few problems about your Diddy/Dixie theory
1) The stage is based off Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat. Neither Diddy nor Dixie appeared in that game
2) Diddy and Dixie only worked together in only 2 games.
The Mac04
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The people from the Toad topic have scheduled you for a beating at four 'o clock. A ton of people want him in, you know.
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that right there shows how much of a noob you are. here you are complaining how diddy won't fit cause he was made by rare. then you complain that diddy won't have moves cause rare made them. then we gently let you know that diddy AND his moves have appeared in non-rare made games, and you change the f***in subject.
if you want to debate with us, that's fine, but the way you're doing it is not worth our time
Pieman0920
Smash Master
2 games? I thought it was just DKC2 (By extention, I guess that includes DKL2, but that's just a port)
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
Well put. Don't argue a subject you know nothing about.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
I counted Donkey Kong Land 2 as well. I've heard it wasn't a completey straight port anyway. You could also say that they worked together in DIddy Kong Racing DS.
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Well not anymore than Mario and Luigi do in those games. (Not including Double Dash)
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
Don't talk about Diddy Kong Racing DS. I really want it and it pissed me off that other people do. DKR64 owned, how's DS?
hated DK64 i guess...no I cannot, Im completely against him being a playable character he lacks substance thats why you have to resort to peanut guns and jetpacks as a means of ammo, hes not worthy of a spot
i knew someone would ****ing say that...it was only a matter of time...THAT UPDATE BACKS NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
that you Mac04 for stepping up
Toad? PLAYABLE in more games than Diddy? dont insult my intelligence we both know thats not true
i guess swords arent violent either...i mean its not like you can shank people to pieces with them or anything...
your grasping at straws, NeoSoul. its a good (and creative) observation but its not even close to definitive yet. Sakurai said he wants another ICs-like team...Diddy has proven in the last couple of multiplayer games that hes a cool and highly liked solo act. look at the Double Dash cover...Diddy is in a car with DK NOT Dixie...and DK is a solo act. if Nintendo was so hellbent on Diddy/Dixie combo to never be forgot they would put DK with Bowser and Dixie with Diddy.
lmao this is fun.... but I'll humor you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_to3eKGJISg
this tries to relate DK having moves in relation to DK64 but that statement is very subjective and doesnt serve for a good argument, a handslap and a 2 handed slam are two very common moves and DEFINATELY not as far fetched as peanut guns or a jetpack.... thats like saying his little train engine will be in the game..... not gonna happen
diddy having guns is just too far fetched... the star fox games are about shooting not core platforming
before this goes on I would like to state that diddy would be a LAME addition and I have never played the *******ization that was DK64...I think King K rool should be in brawl if DK is to have another representative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_to3eKGJISg
this tries to relate DK having moves in relation to DK64 but that statement is very subjective and doesnt serve for a good argument, a handslap and a 2 handed slam are two very common moves and DEFINATELY not as far fetched as peanut guns or a jetpack.... thats like saying his little train engine will be in the game..... not gonna happen
diddy having guns is just too far fetched... the star fox games are about shooting not core platforming
before this goes on I would like to state that diddy would be a LAME addition and I have never played the *******ization that was DK64...I think King K rool should be in brawl if DK is to have another representative
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
If you've never played DK64 you shouldn't be in this debate. I also notice you've gone from calm to practically shouting.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
The Starfox games are about DOGFIGHTING. Not first person shooting.
And so what if Diddy with guns is farfetched. In Smash, baby electric rat can go up against a intergalatic bounty hunter and win. Saying something is too far-fetched in Smash is like saying too much water will make you wet.
And if you never played DK 64, you really shouldn't be complaining about Diddy's potential moveset. >_>
I want K.Rool in the game also, but Diddy has a better chance.
Why is it always the Smash N00bs and Smash Children whose post count is under 40 always making BS claims. Even GameFAQs members know that Diddy deserves to be in.
And so what if Diddy with guns is farfetched. In Smash, baby electric rat can go up against a intergalatic bounty hunter and win. Saying something is too far-fetched in Smash is like saying too much water will make you wet.
And if you never played DK 64, you really shouldn't be complaining about Diddy's potential moveset. >_>
I want K.Rool in the game also, but Diddy has a better chance.
Why is it always the Smash N00bs and Smash Children whose post count is under 40 always making BS claims. Even GameFAQs members know that Diddy deserves to be in.
@NeoSoul
so you believe that Diddy shouldnt be playable by himself because of the popgun usage as unoriginal for Diddy and lacking real substance since Diddy represents platform gaming and the popguns werent a part of typical Diddy style with the exception of one game...ok i can perfectly understand that. so you dont hate Diddy, you just feel that his moveset would better envision the well-known DK franchise if he was paired with Dixie instead of being alone...i agree with that too. but you can see how the Diddy jetpacks have now become Diddy's trademark as they have made a reappearance since their original debut. nod your head (using asterix's if this first paragraph is true).
ok so basically the only reason we all want Diddy solo is perfect preference and favoritism and the fact that a Diddy/Dixie pair would take away from Diddy as his own individual/cool character
so you believe that Diddy shouldnt be playable by himself because of the popgun usage as unoriginal for Diddy and lacking real substance since Diddy represents platform gaming and the popguns werent a part of typical Diddy style with the exception of one game...ok i can perfectly understand that. so you dont hate Diddy, you just feel that his moveset would better envision the well-known DK franchise if he was paired with Dixie instead of being alone...i agree with that too. but you can see how the Diddy jetpacks have now become Diddy's trademark as they have made a reappearance since their original debut. nod your head (using asterix's if this first paragraph is true).
ok so basically the only reason we all want Diddy solo is perfect preference and favoritism and the fact that a Diddy/Dixie pair would take away from Diddy as his own individual/cool character
i almost dont wanna know what word you used here but i am curious, so humor me again
at least theres one point i dont have to argue with you on
oh yes.... furious....:embarrass
I still would put dollars to peanuts(no pun intended) on the diddy/dixie team over your peanut poppin jetpack design flaw...
and i cannot believe this site doesnt allow the word "bas.tar.dization"
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
Glad I just left that category then.
great I just got the online equivalent of being emmasculated....
dogfighting/shooting is more in relation to guns than platformjumping and banana collecting
ok me trying to make sense of diddy having a gun is foolish on my part maybe more foolish of going against what somebody has spent the last 78 pages defending but Im more than positive Im right... sakurai will favor oriental design over westerners thats why fire emblem characters appeared in melee and not for example.... 'killer instinct' ones if you follow what Im saying... in-house production > outside influence... its a cultural thing
diddy kong is awesome read a page back follow the argument instead of jumping in, I think thats universal in message boards, so is patience for those of us who dont frequent the boards but attacking me personally is just signs of you running out of a decent reason WHY diddy kong should be in... just face it he's a lousy choice... and the movelist thats 'decided' is basically derived from ONE game initially no matter how many times it has appeared... I respect the way you all speculate why hes in, I would expect you respect my reasoning to why he is not....
Im not too crazy about sonic either but thats another thread.....
dude now youre just targetting all my characters...wtf?
seriously though...DK64 is good enough to play and you havent even tried it yet. even gamespot who crappifies all ratings for nonzelda or ff games scored it well. so thats just ignorant bashing before trying... secondly, theres so many flaws to Diddy and Dixie gameplay in brawl its not even funny. why not make a moveset for Dids/Dix if youre so hell bent on it?
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
Even though I strongly disagree with your opinions, I'm gonna go ahead and give you some advice. DO NOT SAY THAT WHEN THERE ARE CLEAR SUPPORTER'S AROUND.
With that out of the way, I understand your opinions and respect them. However, I can't help but question what exactly you have against the guns.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
Killer Instinct is a poor example to use. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it isn't a third party series that's usually rated 'M'?great I just got the online equivalent of being emmasculated....
dogfighting/shooting is more in relation to guns than platformjumping and banana collecting
ok me trying to make sense of diddy having a gun is foolish on my part maybe more foolish of going against what somebody has spent the last 78 pages defending but Im more than positive Im right... sakurai will favor oriental design over westerners thats why fire emblem characters appeared in melee and not for example.... 'killer instinct' ones if you follow what Im saying... in-house production > outside influence... its a cultural thing
diddy kong is awesome read a page back follow the argument instead of jumping in, I think thats universal in message boards, so is patience for those of us who dont frequent the boards but attacking me personally is just signs of you running out of a decent reason WHY diddy kong should be in... just face it he's a lousy choice... and the movelist thats 'decided' is basically derived from ONE game initially no matter how many times it has appeared... I respect the way you all speculate why hes in, I would expect you respect my reasoning to why he is not....
Im not too crazy about sonic either but thats another thread.....
And just because Diddy was created in a Western country doesn't mean, he won't be in. Marth and Roy are pretty much European based anyway. And even then, Diddy was requested by the Japanese more than any Fire Emblem characters since Melee was announced.
BTW, you can't just expect to go in a thread where 99% of the people doesn't share your opinion and expect not to get flamed. Especially with your low status around here.
As for Diddy's 'decided' moveset being from one game. Pikachu's moveset was just from one game. And many characters don't even have movesets that are from there games (i.e. Marth, Roy, Ganondorf, Fox, Falco, etc)
whos shouting now?
I really dont know what I have against the guns maybe because the VERY LITTLE i played of DK64 bored me to bits, so mcuh that anything coming from taht game is just written off, you all seem a little too passionate about your peanut poppin hero and given the fact that hes appeared in more nintendo games than I can say i've played, I dont see why he couldnt at least be an assist trophy, but a playable character? nah not with the guna/jetpack nevarrrrrrrr hopefully Im wrong right?
yeah hopefully. Diddy for AT, huh? ill probably die of laughter at the stupidity of Nintendo than be angry. if a friggin nintendog is gonna be AT, then Diddy, my friend, is not. its all a matter of whether he'll be solo, or whether he'll be stuck with Dixiewhos shouting now?
I really dont know what I have against the guns maybe because the VERY LITTLE i played of DK64 bored me to bits, so mcuh that anything coming from taht game is just written off, you all seem a little too passionate about your peanut poppin hero and given the fact that hes appeared in more nintendo games than I can say i've played, I dont see why he couldnt at least be an assist trophy, but a playable character? nah not with the guna/jetpack nevarrrrrrrr hopefully Im wrong right?
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
I wasn't shouting, I was trying to stress it.whos shouting now?
I really dont know what I have against the guns maybe because the VERY LITTLE i played of DK64 bored me to bits, so mcuh that anything coming from taht game is just written off, you all seem a little too passionate about your peanut poppin hero and given the fact that hes appeared in more nintendo games than I can say i've played, I dont see why he couldnt at least be an assist trophy, but a playable character? nah not with the guna/jetpack nevarrrrrrrr hopefully Im wrong right?
Anyway, that last sentence was so jumbled and weird I barely understood it. I basically got: "I don't like Diddy and you do and you will say that" ...What?
Kentalish
Smash Lord
I thought nintendo and rare were like partners in a way like this list mostley nintendo games http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rare_Ltd._games... but i dont think that rare OWNS diddy kong... cuz if it wasnt for nintendo there would be no diddy kong... and if there was no rare there would be no diddy kong so it cancels out... correct me if im wrong.... back on topic
Im getting sick and tiered of these noobs that say Diddy would be a DK clone
Do they look alike???? ...one is a monkey one is a gorilla one punches amd rolls one uses his tail and cartwheels ... Diddy uses a jetpack donkey kong doesnt.
Also can anyone picture Diddy winding up his arm for a punch as his b move and probably doing like 5 damage intead of like 25.... so can people stop spamming ang getting post count up by saying "Diddy is a DK clone" cuz its really annoying... go play all the Donkey Kong games and then come back and tell us hes a clone cuz u probably wont.
Also diddy did use jetpack in mario power tennis.
Diddy for Brawl
Im getting sick and tiered of these noobs that say Diddy would be a DK clone
Do they look alike???? ...one is a monkey one is a gorilla one punches amd rolls one uses his tail and cartwheels ... Diddy uses a jetpack donkey kong doesnt.
Also can anyone picture Diddy winding up his arm for a punch as his b move and probably doing like 5 damage intead of like 25.... so can people stop spamming ang getting post count up by saying "Diddy is a DK clone" cuz its really annoying... go play all the Donkey Kong games and then come back and tell us hes a clone cuz u probably wont.
Also diddy did use jetpack in mario power tennis.
Diddy for Brawl
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
The Tennis thing was mentioned. And you're right. Diddy would never be a clone if they're cutting clones in this one. He's a different build and weight class.I thought nintendo and rare were like partners in a way like this list mostley nintendo games http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rare_Ltd._games... but i dont think that rare OWNS diddy kong... cuz if it wasnt for nintendo there would be no diddy kong... and if there was no rare there would be no diddy kong so it cancels out... correct me if im wrong.... back on topic
Im getting sick and tiered of these noobs that say Diddy would be a DK clone
Do they look alike???? ...one is a monkey one is a gorilla one punches amd rolls one uses his tail and cartwheels ... Diddy uses a jetpack donkey kong doesnt.
Also can anyone picture Diddy winding up his arm for a punch as his b move and probably doing like 5 damage intead of like 25.... so can people stop spamming ang getting post count up by saying "Diddy is a DK clone" cuz its really annoying... go play all the Donkey Kong games and then come back and tell us hes a clone cuz u probably wont.
Also diddy did use jetpack in mario power tennis.
Diddy for Brawl
k... you're wrong.... whats metal gear? and killer instinct is rareware which at the time melee came out or was in development it was still a second party franchise... rareware is given credit for DKs appearance in melee if Im not mistaken
lolol k... lemme touch on this for a second.... the character diddy was adopted by nintendo when rare and nintendo parted ways, what Im sayiong is DK64 was all rareware with nintendo characters basically... I'll put it like this, the gun/jetpack diddy has about as much chance in brawl as banjo/kazooie do...kirby said:
I dont know what fire emblem has to do with europe but if you can back that its a reasonable statement, because along with that, diddy kong being favored by the japanese public is news to me....
ummmm no I didnt expect 'flamming' of any kind the title alone welcomes opposers maybe youre in the wrong, conscidered taht a possibility? both in reasoning and in e-etiquette...kirby said:
that last statement about the moves and bringing up examples is about the best argument you brought up so far...other than being clones and moves being derived from gameplay counterparts IE the reflector >>> barrel roll shield etc...
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
Again, the jetpack was in Power Tennis
GreenKirby
Smash Master
Yes Rare was given credit for DK's design, but Nintendo still own him. Donkey Kong 64 was still Nintendo game. When Rare was still second party, it meant it was still part of Nintendo as much as Kirby is because HAL is second party. Which means, moves from DK 64 would still be ediligble (sp) Besides, the Jetpack was used in Mario Power Tennis.
As for Fire Emblem. It's a bunch of caucasion (sp) characters that takes place in what appears to be past European settings. If that's not 'western' I don't what is.
And yes, Diddy is favored by Japan. He was on Saukrai's list twice.
and again.... what does that have to do with anything?????? its not a japanese developer(camelot software inc) so were back to the japanese > american development, the giant banana special in double dash has more of a chance of appearing in brawl than the jetpack Im sure of it....
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
Wow...no, just no. The jetpack was used by Diddy in a Nintendo game after Rare was sold, meaning it has that chance.
@ NeoSoul
all you keep bringing up is Rare every damm time. Rare CANNOT touch DK now? ok. CANNNN-NOOOOOT. rare from now on has NO effect whatsoever on DK games. stop trying to treating Diddy's periphals like theyre still rare-owned
all you keep bringing up is Rare every damm time. Rare CANNOT touch DK now? ok. CANNNN-NOOOOOT. rare from now on has NO effect whatsoever on DK games. stop trying to treating Diddy's periphals like theyre still rare-owned
GreenKirby
Smash Master
You moron. Camelot is a Japanese developer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot_Software_Planning
>_>
The Mac04
Smash Journeyman
*waits for next incorrect statement from Neo*
dude...... Im not talkin about charcters Im talkin about development and cultural boundaries tied to them, whats more 'western' than a hot blonde in a robot suit fighting aliens, intergalactic pirates no less? jetpack/gun totting diddy= rareware mario power tennis= camelot software theyre not nintendo nor hal